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#126 IronFist

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Posted 25 April 2015 - 08:42 PM

Without the auction feature implemented people need a place to vend high tier gears...

I use the forums but even with deals struck people dont always honor them.

 

Eden is designed for it, that is why you cant vend on the bottem floor!

 


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#127 WheatSword

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Posted 25 April 2015 - 09:25 PM

People are still going to rip off other people, even with a vend increase, it will just be of a larger scale <3

 

But nonetheless, it will "slowly" fix the Eden issue, but not completely (as people still use it as a means to drop S/B chats in order to get BETTER deals that are unrealistic even with an upgraded zeny limit).

 

Thats why they should implement a essential pricing system. This would fix a lot of the problems like newer players couldn't afford any good gear without having to resort to selling WPE.

 

When everyone can gear up better the competition for PVP,WoE and MVP would certainly rise.

 

And there would be no ripping people off since the prices of items are official. But imo its way beyond too late now to make such changes to the game.

 

Basically the management and developing team of the game didn't have any sort of foresight to begin with thats why you get a messed up trading system.

 

Many other mmorpgs have some sort of solid trading system. 

 

Eden was suppose to be an area intended for newbies, but since it can be access almost anywhere people decided to abuse it.

 

You really can't blame them since they won't do anything to change the game.


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Posted 25 April 2015 - 10:08 PM

Uh, CTRL+F11 isn't a thing anymore? Not a real solution but at least you can walk in there. ._.


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Posted 25 April 2015 - 10:18 PM

Bump...

As somebody previously stated...this is an important topic to many players, I don't want to let it die either. :p_sick:

Taking the zeny limit off venders would be convenient.

Despite the rights or wrongs of Eden chats, I can't think of a reason not to take the vending cap off or bump up the limit a digit. It certainly wouldn't hurt to give it a try.

If there's a reason that this cannot be done, then yes, clearing Eden somehow would be wonderful.

This is a game...we shouldn't struggle to have fun or get frustrated over the quest hub, so 'thoughtfully' named Eden, filling the screen with people's advertisements.


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 12:20 AM

Patiently waiting for 1b vend limit, but since iRO so popular with their own customized method, why don't start with 250m vend limit then slowly to the max of it based on players respond/suggestion.

 

Most of eden chatroom contain item of 100m-700m, only few of it worth above 1b, and buyers/sellers obviously hate to browse/update market forum looking for item, going back-forth via forum private msg or ingames, late in respond due to different time of playing/online.

 

Currently making alt+F11/shift+F11 as habit before login to iRO /pif


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 12:48 AM

*Walks in to Eden ------------- blinks -------------- walks out* http://forums.warppo...IR#/ani_swt.gif


Did you just blink at me? >run until reaching splendide<
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Posted 26 April 2015 - 12:55 AM

I believe the habit of hidden chat and hidden shop can solve this unclickable annoying npc. But stillt, those who abuse 3x3 area around npc should be punish. It is a rule, make by human to another human to dicipline both, so they will follow and behave.

If we send a report ticket, did anything will change?
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Posted 26 April 2015 - 01:03 AM

i must agree they should be disciplined. i'm semi-new to Renewal and i've never hated pubs until i stepped in Eden >< even if i do hide the pubs via the said controls, its really annoying :/ takes time for me to get to the proper npc to turn in my quest progress. @_@ why can't people move to some place else instead? 


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 01:33 AM

AUCTION HOUSE HEEBUS GEEBUS


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 02:02 AM

AUCTION HOUSE HEEBUS GEEBUS

 

Auction should come back and revised. The old auction system suck.


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 04:21 AM

I was reading this chat without realizing how old this thread was. Sadly enough, it's still very much relevant.
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Posted 26 April 2015 - 05:21 AM

They should put all the chat and vends on 2nd floor only! All the npc`s should be moved on the first floor!

How 'bout no chatrooms/vends inside Eden HQ at all?


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 06:03 AM

No chatrooms/vends inside Eden may solve one problem, raise another kinda 'annoying' problem. It's not an exact problem, but people already have that comfort of vending and open chatroom. Once, the 'government' took that privilege, 'citizen' will not sit tight at all. People are vending in Eden because it's like a bridge that connect all map in iro. It's easier but currently been abused by 'illegal' vend/chat next to npc. 


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 06:44 AM

All private servers, if they do one or two things right, is to restrict merchant and buy/sell chats to very defined areas. This game has several cities that could fit that role, not only that, has gazillions empty maps or clonable ones to serve said role. Is just placing an NPC that warps for free people from the city to said areas and then back to the city they were in the first place. If 2 code programmers of amateur level can do this for servers with 1k people, i don`t see how iRO devs can`t do it for barely 3.5k people. 

This needs regulation, cities should be a place of social interaction, which is impossible on some parts thanks to the overcrowded. This is almost an urban and demographic distribution issue. 


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 07:39 AM

make a "merchant girl" npc that  warps people to "merchant paradise" or something , and pick a map thats wide enough and organizable for people to vend, like hmmmm... i'd say a kun-lun clone would be good for vending since the bridges could server as aisles in a mart? i dunno, the map can be revised.

 

but lets be honest, if you want your shop to be seen why dont we gather everyone on a "merchant" map, you can put up chats there too if you want.

if you want to vend strategically you can still vend pots outside a dungeon or something.


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 07:44 AM

This is iRo style.I like it but people should not block npc.I like to walk around eden /pront and check every single shop instead of using ragial.


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 08:02 AM

Nope


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 11:17 AM

The answer is, simply speaking, blocking chat windows in Eden 1st floor. People are going to make chat windows somewhere, the quickest and easiest answer here is to simply prevent Eden from being one of those options.


Nobody has even mentioned SHIFT+F11 and CONTROL+F11....
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Posted 26 April 2015 - 11:21 AM

Nobody has even mentioned SHIFT+F11 and CONTROL+F11....

 

That is like using a band aid for a bullet wound. You didn't get rid of the problem at all. Massive amount of people are still stuck in one tiny map even if you clear the chats.

 

Eden was suppose to be an area for beginners not self advertisement. Its just bad management plain and simple.


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 11:24 AM

I'm not even willing to entertain the idea of disabling chats/vends when the cause for them being necessary hasn't been addressed (max vend zeny limit).


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 04:54 PM

That is like using a band aid for a bullet wound. You didn't get rid of the problem at all. Massive amount of people are still stuck in one tiny map even if you clear the chats.

Eden was suppose to be an area for beginners not self advertisement. Its just bad management plain and simple.


Compromise to both sides is there but if you'd rather not use it that is of course your poragative.
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Posted 26 April 2015 - 05:12 PM

Its "prerogative" and hiding the chats is hardly helping. This is simply bad and unfriendly customer service for people who are actually paying to play.

 

This problem have existed for years and yet there is nothing done about it.

Compromise to both sides is there but if you'd rather not use it that is of course your poragative.

 


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 05:42 PM

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 07:46 PM

Nobody has even mentioned SHIFT+F11 and CONTROL+F11....


Thank you for not wanting to make the game better for everyone, but ctrl+f11 is just a work around. A more permanent solution would be to implement above 9th vend. Tell me why do you not want this?
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Posted 26 April 2015 - 08:02 PM

Thank you for not wanting to make the game better for everyone, but ctrl+f11 is just a work around. A more permanent solution would be to implement above 9th vend. Tell me why do you not want this?


Whether we want it or not, it still has to get kRO's approval and we all know how that can be.
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