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#1 eastCrew212

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:18 AM

Is it possible to do this, if it is how may HD ori/elu needed to do so? I mean back then there was no +10 safe cert and people manage to do it. My point is, is it possible?
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#2 Riakuta

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:23 AM

It is possible the easiest way to do this is to wait for Enriched Hammer to come back around. Use 1 HD from +9 to +10 if it fails you will be at +8. After you are at +8 go back to enriched to upgrade it back to +9 and try again. From what I have heard this will take around 200 Enriched & 20 HD.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:25 AM

Yea Its Possible, It's a 10% Chance, Usually takes me like 6-8 for 9 -> 10 But most should be is 10 :P (All luck)
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#4 eastCrew212

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:43 AM

WOW 6-8 try that is some luck and ok thanks for the info i will try it out. Hopefully ill get to +10. One more question i read in the forum about this topic and i noticed the Luk of the person affect the upgrade?
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:46 AM

No stats affect upgrade from npcs. For mastersmith weapon upgrading it takes into account your job level which is why mastersmith at job 70 has better weapon upgrade than a mechanic at job 50. But for NPC upgrading it's irrelevant
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:01 AM

Yes it is possible. All my items over +10 had been made without certs. Some succeeded in 2 tries, some haven't succeeded even in 10+ tries. It's all luck.

Too bad soon people will think they can only upgrade with certs. Wonder what's next, safe +20? :(
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 06:58 AM

It is very hard to do. Riakuta explains the best process well above.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:28 AM

I once spammed mighty hammer too much and got +10 in one go from +9, not recommended though.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 11:30 AM

It takes (on average - 30% of the time it only takes 1, ofc) 28 enriched to go +8 -> +9, and 1 HD to attempt +9->10.

With 10 attempts on average to get a +9->10 (10% chance, so 10 tries on average), you'll thus need avg of either 280 enriched and 10 hd, or 10 safe to 10 certs.

That also means a safe to 10 cert is worth as much as 28 enriched and 1 hd. That's 598 kp of ores, or around 30m on Ymir. Since they are currently selling for less than that, attempting to upgrade to 10 without safe certs is a poor financial decision.

Edited by DrAzzy, 05 June 2012 - 11:30 AM.

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