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[MoyuZ777]

Good because I got a Sera lol

If it was double I would probably consider remaking homun

[Ashuckel]

+200 eATK us a lot, and it increases far more than 20%, also it depends on how much multipliers u have( ea, atk%,boss%, etc)

Edited by Ashuckel, 02 April 2015 - 09:58 AM.

[Havenn]

Seems like I do about 40k without it, 60k with it based on a video from awhile back. So more like 50%

[kasshin]

Pyro should probably increase damage a lot if you are using a low ATK weapon (Twin Edge, Erde) or a low refinement weapon. But less so if using a high ATK weapon like HF or Mjolnir.

Other modifers like +ATK and +% ATK change the equation too like mentioned above.

Also you get some weirdness with the Fire Endow portion.

[Ryviux]

my Potter used a Doom Slayer, without pyro was doing about 13k+ to the Petals and 17k+ with pyro. So it added about 30%.

Edited by Ryviux, 02 April 2015 - 12:32 PM.

[kasshin]

It's widely known doom slayer is one of the worst possible weapons you could use as a gen, since it has like zero weapon ATK.

[Ryviux]

it is cheap and i didn't want to spend a lot of zeny for a alt. It only cost 3m and it had EA8

[MoyuZ777]

Painkiller vs Granatic Armor, seems like Granatic Armor helps with higher dmg mvps right?

[Havenn]

PK helps more against physical attacks, since it's a flat reduction. GA helps versus burst damage skills. So, say vs Bakonawa without any dragon/boss reductions - his crit attack does 23k damage, with GA it would do 20.7k, while PK it would do 22.2k.

 

PK usually is best defense wise, as damage has to be really crazy for GA to reduce it by a significant amount.

 

Others can chime in though, I am not 100% sure of when GA takes effect - but PK I am fairly sure is applied last, after all other reductions 

[lightdrizzle]

I noticed you kept saying 2x EA5 instad of EA10. Does it matter if it's EA4/EA6?

 

I'm not sure how damage is actually calculated from weapon enchants.

Edited by lightdrizzle, 20 May 2015 - 06:39 AM.

[Ashuckel]

I noticed you kept saying 2x EA5 instad of EA10. Does it matter if it's EA4/EA6?

 

I'm not sure how damage is actually calculated from weapon enchants.

There's no difference in damage, it's just more likely to get 2x EA5 than getting a single EA6.

[DemyGod]

I want to know when we are getting the enchant for the RTE. I picked up and +9d a Airship hat and +9 Aby knight helm, but I can't decide on cards. I have a +12 EA8 HF as well as a +12 RTE and I'm finding it very enlightening figuring out which MVPs to use which one against. I haven't found many cases I'd rather use the RTE against over the HF, but there are a few. I've also had issues deciding on a Homun. Thus far I've forgone getting one, just because I can't decide if I'd rather have Sera or Dieter. My guild is picking up pretty heavily on ET runs so it would probably be a good idea for me to make up my mind and grind it out. My biggest problem lies that I've put more Z into the Sura than the Gen, so to balance it out I'm making someone other than my Sura do the tanking.

[kasshin]

In large guild party ETs, you probably rarely need to use a twin edge or a one handed weapon, because someone else is tanking. For strong AOEs, you can usually use just the right elemental armor and that will take care of it.

One handed weapons are more for solo situations where you're also tanking the MVP at the same time and need a shield.

Nobody knows when we're getting the enchant. Make a nice Erde if you want something to use right now.

[DemyGod]

In large guild party ETs, you probably rarely need to use a twin edge or a one handed weapon, because someone else is tanking. For strong AOEs, you can usually use just the right elemental armor and that will take care of it.

One handed weapons are more for solo situations where you're also tanking the MVP at the same time and need a shield.

Nobody knows when we're getting the enchant. Make a nice Erde if you want something to use right now.

 

I actually just sold my +12 Erde (2x AK) EA10...didn't even compare in dmg to the HF, and the RTE was doing nearly the same (4-5k difference) with AB. CC is a whole other ballgame.

[Calza]

So in guild type situations (i.e. a tank), a HF is looking better than an Erde?

[Calza]

What shadow armor is best for CC leveling? 

[Havenn]

woops. Physical set is best for CC damage at low lvls. I'm not sure about armor though.

Edited by Havenn, 30 July 2015 - 09:44 AM.

[Calza]

Oh so I can share with my GX?

Superb!

[Ryviux]

woops. Physical set is best for CC damage at low lvls. I'm not sure about armor though.

 

the physical set is 3 pieces

the kingsbird set is only 2 piece. leaving another spot open for a Shadow Magical earring and the 3% reduction in cast time.

Edited by Ryviux, 30 July 2015 - 03:54 PM.

[LiteAdi]

if i use erde do i still need to max sword mastery? sorry for noob question

Edited by LiteAdi, 28 August 2015 - 04:07 AM.

[Havenn]

I believe it effects all 1h weps, but not sure. I would (and did on all Genes)

[mikkotinamide]

what's the most cost effective or ideal weapon for CC? (i.e. weapon for leveling)

[Havenn]

RTE 3x AS +9~12

[mikkotinamide]

why is it better than a carga mace? (at first glance, it has higher atk and a more versatile weapon, dealing 100% to large monsters)

[Havenn]

Lv4 weapon has higher +atk/matk per refine and a higher damage variance, the added card slot pushes it way over. Carga is pretty meh for Genetics, but can be pretty cheap if funds are tight.