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#26 mikeberserkr

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:47 AM

Hey Everyone in Ymir Server, Let Gravity know how much you enjoy playing in a server that only has at any one time less than 400 people on it which half or 3/4 is merchants vending. Speak out let them know it is time to merge with Ygg Server or Valk server or this game will die sooner than expected.


as i try to read between the lines, you really want a premium server, but your problem is teh low population.(in my case, i like ymir cause of GTB)

Well if you want to INCREASE Ymir pop, you can do (as well as me, and the rest of the ymir pop) your share on marketing the server.... to your friends, to people you know, and even using the Friends with Benefits stuff, & being vocal about ymir server.

and no its not 3/4 merchants venidng, it more like 1/3 of the pop. But its up recently now to 500+ pop

but if ever there is anything id vote for is to fix the game bugs first! :p_angel:

Edited by mikeberserkr, 30 January 2012 - 10:59 AM.

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#27 Yomihime

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:59 AM

No, I don't want to see my friends quitting (although it depends on themself). More importantly, I prefer them to fix stuffs instead of merging servers. Stop making ideas that will screwing this game up :p_angel:

Edit: Where's my -1 button when I need it?

Edited by Yomihime, 30 January 2012 - 11:03 AM.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 11:31 AM

Hey Everyone in Ymir Server, Let Gravity know how much you enjoy playing in a server that only has at any one time less than 400 people on it which half or 3/4 is merchants vending.



Ymir 7 day Peak is 700 at the moment and it's not 3/4 merchants (unless you are playing while the US sleeps). The real 'live' population is still far greater than Ygg, as such you really don't have a clue what you are talking about. Due to not having a real WoE on Ymir for over 6 weeks, it's kind of hard to gauge with any accuracy what the real peak number should be either.

http://ragial.com/spop/iRO

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#29 viceroyblue

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 11:37 AM

I dont care, I just want people to actually play RO. Im sick of having 400 people on the server.


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Posted 30 January 2012 - 11:39 AM

Char xfer to valk


You mean xfer to BotHeaven & ScreamMyAssOutForDollars?
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:07 PM

Online: 451Shops: 149Seems a fair bit less than 3/4s




merge isnt the answer. Fixing the issues that is making people quit is the answer.


For example, I have no desire to play, so I am quit. How would that be fixed? What are the problems that people are leaving seeing? Why are they leaving?




Lack of things being fixed, or the slow as hell fixing that does happen, or maybe the fact they keep breaking the game more. that just my opinion. I use to love the game and look past these problems just cause it was sprite/3d which are rare and i still love sprites games. but after years and years of them ruing the game more lack of fixing things or speed at which things are fix it no longer a reason for me to still love the game. For example I hear the ACTUALLY fixed KVM after what 3+ years? i mean really it dont take that long to fix a bug. games get announce and released in such time frames. taking that long to fix things just make the developers look bad and lazy and uncaring.

honestly if they do another merger i will permanently quit. as of now i still play not as much as use too, but i hated the last merger they do it again i will be gone, mergers dont fix problems with the game. it just there way of putting duct tape on the problems and hoping they suck people dry of more money on game that had good run but is dieing cause bad decisions, mostly cause by kro, or so iro likes to say cause there not to "blaim" for any of the games problems, which begs the question if kro caused it why they still listen to them, they should listen to us seeing we the one paying for the jobs

Edited by Puppet, 30 January 2012 - 12:14 PM.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:25 PM

I hate how people think a merger is the only way to help the population. How about improving the game?

Before the balance patch, I recruited 17 new players to iRO. They all quit for a lot of the same reasons.

1. They added more grind for low-levels. Not the best welcome for new players.
2. On top of that, they made enemies tougher.
3. Lag.
4. When their VIP ran out, the game was literally unplayable. 500z for storage? You know 500z is a lot for a new player right?

And I quit because the balance patch sucked the fun out of the game.

Edited by Kamen, 30 January 2012 - 12:26 PM.

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#33 Shiroi17

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:39 PM

Balance patch destroying a few classes, then the week after they made most enemies tougher without giving more XP and give -50% XP from turn ins during the Xmas event.
Then they wondered why people were angry/quit XD
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:52 PM

You mean xfer to BotHeaven & ScreamMyAssOutForDollars?


valk probably has more actual players than ymir/ygg combined
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:54 PM

Don't some of the other servers have a multi-server WoE? That would make tons of people happy.
I doubt iRO would spring for an extra server since I heard they downgraded.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:58 PM

Don't some of the other servers have a multi-server WoE? That would make tons of people happy.
I doubt iRO would spring for an extra server since I heard they downgraded.


Solution:

Merge all 3 Server to Valhalla.

Use the free servers to introduce the pure PvP/ WoE Server Xellie.
You can copy your Char for free to this Server anytime you want and do PvP, WoE on a timeschedule and even win awesome Prizes!
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:59 PM

They downgraded the servers? :p_angel:
This would explain the recent lag increase heh.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:59 PM

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Balance patch made me UnQuit RO >.>

Why is everyone knocking it? It was a huge improvement to almost every aspect of gameplay. After 6+ years, finally GFist gets an appropriate balancing measure. GX's are decent again. CS isn't OP, and HS is good, so RK's have to actually make choices in their skill build like everyone else. Freeze and Stone are back, deep sleep and mandy howl aren't OP anymore, Rangers don't suck anymore (well, their traps got nerfed, but they got decent arrow skills in return).... the balance patch was IMO a huge positive change, and the only problem with it is that it came a year after it should have.

And I say No on merge, and wish the people trying to stir up rumors of a merge would shut the hell up. The response from others is strongly negative, a merge will not do what you want it to.
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#39 Pitt007

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:03 PM

I vote for merge,leave all the ymir god items made, transfer all mvps cards and break all the guilds.

Edited by Pitt007, 30 January 2012 - 01:12 PM.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:03 PM

Char xfer to valk


I have 2 accounts worth of characters that I would want to transfer over, along with all my gear (which there are restrictions on). I'm not going to pay x amount of $ when the GMs need to just fix what's wrong with the game.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:06 PM

I hate how people think a merger is the only way to help the population. How about improving the game?

Before the balance patch, I recruited 17 new players to iRO. They all quit for a lot of the same reasons.

1. They added more grind for low-levels. Not the best welcome for new players.
2. On top of that, they made enemies tougher.
3. Lag.
4. When their VIP ran out, the game was literally unplayable. 500z for storage? You know 500z is a lot for a new player right?

And I quit because the balance patch sucked the fun out of the game.

For your information, not a single new player has quit. Just ask anyone who isn't me.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:30 PM

Solution:

Merge all 3 Server to Valhalla.

Use the free servers to introduce the pure PvP/ WoE Server Xellie.
You can copy your Char for free to this Server anytime you want and do PvP, WoE on a timeschedule and even win awesome Prizes!


Your dream plan has too many holes in it.
Valk server has lots of bot accounts, if you merge it, you can't stop them from botting.
Also if it has premium, it would prevent new people from playing it.
People who plays from Ymir, especially new ones often checked the forums first, when they kniw Valk is heavily botted and Ygg is a ghost town..
they play Ymir.
Statistically, only 2 out of 10 players do a background check before playing.


On pRO, they also merged all their old servers into New Chaos.
But it wasn't as fail as iRO.
When they merged, pre renewal wasn't introduced yet.

They merged all three servers into New Chaos and deleted all the God Items including ingredients, broke all guilds.

When renewal came, they reintroduced RO again.
Deleted the God Items and Ingredients again for server balancing.

I don't think iRO can do that.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:34 PM

You can buy all that crap on pRO, that's why.

(no, that was not a suggestion for iRO.)
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:37 PM

You can buy all that crap on pRO, that's why.

(no, that was not a suggestion for iRO.)


Psssssssssssssssssssh!!! OMG Delete this before Heim gets to read this!
If he gets to read this and implement this next maint the new WoE Server wont be named after you !!!
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:50 PM

Balance patch made me UnQuit RO >.>

Why is everyone knocking it? It was a huge improvement to almost every aspect of gameplay. After 6+ years, finally GFist gets an appropriate balancing measure. GX's are decent again. CS isn't OP, and HS is good, so RK's have to actually make choices in their skill build like everyone else. Freeze and Stone are back, deep sleep and mandy howl aren't OP anymore, Rangers don't suck anymore (well, their traps got nerfed, but they got decent arrow skills in return).... the balance patch was IMO a huge positive change, and the only problem with it is that it came a year after it should have.

And I say No on merge, and wish the people trying to stir up rumors of a merge would shut the hell up. The response from others is strongly negative, a merge will not do what you want it to.


The balance has a few Pros and a lot of Cons. Yeah almost everyone is happy about the gfist nerf ( except QQing suras ) but CS just needed to be made interrupt-able. SBlast got a needed damage reduction too.

Now try leveling a sura with LR... or a performer. Or even a low level RK ( HS sucks for cornus when you are low enough level to need it for them, you are better off doing 2 CS for LESS SP to kill them ) when you are just an over glorified Knight BBing stuff trying to not die to monsters that suddenly hurt a hell of a lot more. Hell even Siroma got stupidly hard, I was trying out tankig those for my Lif / Eira and every 6th hit was doing 500-600 damage with decent reductions - base hits doing 150ish. Yeah I could get my full water reducs ( marse + 2X carefree water brooches ) but no newish character is gonna have that stuff.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:33 PM

Balance patch made me UnQuit RO >.>

Why is everyone knocking it? It was a huge improvement to almost every aspect of gameplay. After 6+ years, finally GFist gets an appropriate balancing measure. GX's are decent again. CS isn't OP, and HS is good, so RK's have to actually make choices in their skill build like everyone else. Freeze and Stone are back, deep sleep and mandy howl aren't OP anymore, Rangers don't suck anymore (well, their traps got nerfed, but they got decent arrow skills in return).... the balance patch was IMO a huge positive change, and the only problem with it is that it came a year after it should have.


I agree, and most of the changes have been good with the exception of Wanderers being pretty much totally hosed (with no real role to play in WoE - yes DSL needed nerfing, not completely made useless) and also having their leveling skill SR nerfed to all hell (if they wanted to reduce the damage, then they should have made it a whip/instrument skill which is what it should have been in the first place). Shadow Chasers were kind of hosed in the process also.

And I say No on merge, and wish the people trying to stir up rumors of a merge would shut the hell up. The response from others is strongly negative, a merge will not do what you want it to.


No merge for now and the foreseeable future, but I accept at some stage in the future it will happen. If and when that time comes, iRO must have finally found a way to stop bots, and should not break any of the God items or that will be very much 'Game Over'.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:45 PM

Merges are something you can safely do, AT MOST, once every 5 years. They've already used their merge up.

The population is dropping because the game balance isn't fixed after over a year of Renewal, there still isn't meaningful non-WoE content besides TIs, and even the tiniest suggestion iRO makes to kRO is utterly ignored. Nothing can fix this situation, because kRO has decided they want iRO to join EuRO in the graveyard. My main recommendation is to remember what kRO thinks of iRO when RO2 comes out, and adjust any KP purchasing in the new game accordingly.

iRO must have finally found a way to stop bots


They did. It was Ymir's $7 barrier to entry. Stopping them on a free server is simply economically impossible.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:49 PM

You can buy all that crap on pRO, that's why.

(no, that was not a suggestion for iRO.)


You can't buy God Items in pRO. Only MVP cards which comes once or twice every year, behind kRO's back without their knowledge about it.
I remembered the got scolded about that..

Anyway, Gods can't be made easily there, to the point being.
Ymir's God Item is ALOT than pRO's.. also they do annual or semi-annual God Item deletion since Renewal.
No God Items actually stay, and will stay safe.

Edited by Chigikogou, 30 January 2012 - 02:54 PM.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 03:12 PM

No, a merge once was a big trouble, this world isn't prepared for two or more merges. Bad idea. So there.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 08:04 PM

Listen up people and smell the coffee. Have you noticed how long now in Ymir it takes at any time to get a turn in party.
The funny thing people don't level anymore. They wait for TI parties and that's it. If we don't merge and get more people to play this game will die by year end. At least this server it will die.

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