just encountered a RK that could melee hit me through CSS... how is this possible? not only through css but Mirror image too? it didnt even drain my images... is this a cheat or what?
A New Cheat?
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:18 PM
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:19 PM
Crush Strike or Vellum Katzbalger since it drains HP and doesn't count as an actual attack maybe?
Edited by Riakuta, 28 December 2012 - 07:20 PM.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:19 PM
Why don't you ask him his build and gears?
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:21 PM
he killed me resed me and killed me again... i asked how he hit me and he didnt respond and CS doesnt bypass css
Edited by Facekiller, 28 December 2012 - 07:22 PM.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:25 PM
ROPDed him... hes using vellum Katzbalger... but how can it do damage if its not supposed to hit? CSS is supposed to evade physical attacks...
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:27 PM
Oh, probably Vellum Katzbalger...That thing couldn't get more annoying...*Sigh*
It DRAINS a fixed 8% HP on every successful hit, it doesn't really count as a Melee hit, and can only miss you if you have high Flee/ P.Dodge. To be really honest, it should be more like: Deals melee damage equal to 8~10% of the target's max HP, making it count as a physical hit, and be blocked/ reduced similar to other melee attacks.
(I call it the "Noob ASPD RK weapon" since it bypasses nearly everything, and isn't based on STR/ Real damage.)
It DRAINS a fixed 8% HP on every successful hit, it doesn't really count as a Melee hit, and can only miss you if you have high Flee/ P.Dodge. To be really honest, it should be more like: Deals melee damage equal to 8~10% of the target's max HP, making it count as a physical hit, and be blocked/ reduced similar to other melee attacks.
(I call it the "Noob ASPD RK weapon" since it bypasses nearly everything, and isn't based on STR/ Real damage.)
Edited by AdonBlitz, 28 December 2012 - 07:30 PM.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:28 PM
That sword effects bypasses most stuff.(i.e. white imprison,etc).
Working as intended.
Working as intended.
Edited by Memoir, 28 December 2012 - 07:29 PM.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:28 PM
holy crap that thing needs nerfed... thats on par with a MVP card or god item...
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:33 PM
MVPs / God items don't even go through stuff like Safety wall, White imprison, shadow form, etc. It's most likely a bug.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:37 PM
I think your quite late in saying this lol.Should visit pvp more it seemsholy crap that thing needs nerfed... thats on par with a MVP card or god item...
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:39 PM
I already sensed something like this would happen...
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:41 PM
i pvp all the time this is the first time ive encountered this weapon... that thing is far too OP....
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:56 PM
Yeah,it's a really annoying weapon.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:56 PM
i pvp all the time this is the first time ive encountered this weapon... that thing is far too OP....
It only works in pvp it drains 8% of your HP per hit. Not really a problem if you have 40k HP or Less HP. Not really a problem if use Flying Kick (Removes Beserk Potion) or Dispel. Not really a problem if you realize the RK takes 40% more damage (No Combat Knife or Thara Frog). Crush Strike does exactly 8% of your HP if they use it with Vellum Katzbalger. The Sword Isn't OP the Rune Knights Max HP is... (I want 100,000+ HP).
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:59 PM
It only works in pvp it drains 8% of your HP per hit. Not really a problem if you have 40k HP or Less HP. Not really a problem if use Flying Kick (Removes Beserk Potion) or Dispel. Not really a problem if you realize the RK takes 40% more damage (No Combat Knife or Thara Frog). Crush Strike does exactly 8% of your HP if they use it with Vellum Katzbalger. The Sword Isn't OP the Rune Knights Max HP is... (I want 100,000+ HP).
Exactly...This weapon is far from OP and makes AGI rk`s viable now but with a lot of cons as well. You will need 193 aspd and although you can still default GR, WoE Set and have runes, 60k+ hp and parry you will still be squishier than some classes.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:01 PM
with max ASPD this thing is way OP... you can get stuck in hitlock and all you can is try to pot against it...the fact that you need no Str and it bypasses all defenses and armors makes it very op... if you get double teamed with cursed circle you die in 13 hits... doesnt matter your HP, reducts or anything...
Edited by Facekiller, 28 December 2012 - 08:03 PM.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:02 PM
yeah when i was on RG (after long break from RO) with reflect on, was wondering why an RK keeps meleeing me and not taking any reflect back, figured its was a vellum weapon. dont think it is OP though, but of course u may think it is if u dont pot and just stand there, or let the RK catch u within range in the first place. + vellum weapons that take %hp is a good way to pressure pesky K/Os depending on CSS too much in the future. =P (btw, i would probably worry about SCs copying muchanage /gg)
Edited by ka10, 28 December 2012 - 08:08 PM.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:03 PM
Yeah,but getting hit at 193 aspd with that thing.....your gonna need these woe whites or if your another rk,pop an isia,or if your a SC,get a SL.
But low hp mod chars should be alright,I guess.I never got hit on my WL or ranger with it though or even my ninja,so I kind of forget how much damage it does to them.
In any case,I'd just speed pot away.
But low hp mod chars should be alright,I guess.I never got hit on my WL or ranger with it though or even my ninja,so I kind of forget how much damage it does to them.
In any case,I'd just speed pot away.
Edited by Peerless, 28 December 2012 - 08:04 PM.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:04 PM
Kagerou and Oboro is on the way, enjoy it until RK side saying K/O skills need to nerfed...
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:04 PM
with max ASPD this thing is way OP... you can get stuck in hitlock and all you can is try to pot against it...the fact that you need no Str and it bypasses all defenses and armors makes it very op... if you get double teamed with cursed circle you die in 13 hits... doesnt matter your HP, reducts or anything...
You can always Speed Pot away from it... Works for me at least.
Also its a counter for Players with ridiculously high HP...
It is possible... 83% of our RK's are usually like this and I'm pretty sure, the other top guild on old Ymir (Anim) have their RK's with 200k+ HP same as us thanks to WoE Sets... that's how our competitive WoE's used to be (and hopefully it keeps like that with this merge).
RK w/o WoE Set:
And this is before musician's buffs xD
PS: I personally have 90k+ w/o Tao on my brand new RK lol... asking guildies for WoE builds and such is always useful.
Edited by Riakuta, 28 December 2012 - 08:06 PM.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:06 PM
on my ninja all i could do was try to pot... since it bypasses css completely it doesnt push you back... you cant escape it... it doesnt proc defensive autocasts from say ROFL ROR combo o anything... it just does damage and thats it...
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:06 PM
But RK`s have Charge Attack Remember /gg
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:08 PM
But RK`s have Charge Attack Remember /gg
/gg
good thing doesnt work in WoE /ene
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:10 PM
But RK`s have Charge Attack Remember /gg
Sorry, I don't do PvP only WoE so I don't include Charge Attack. Also @Face Killer Its like a Vampire Bat have someone else swat it off or suffer from lack of blood. (Ultimate 1v1 Weapon heh)
Edited by Riakuta, 28 December 2012 - 08:10 PM.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:20 PM
Were talking PvP here not WoE. This weapon has even more problems to deal with in WoE and isn`t as viable as people think. Again it has its pros and cons and you need 193 aspd to attain it which is a problem with Chasers flying kicking everywhere.
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