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[TheKraven]

What is better? This is including a fully upgraded Urs Set.

Edited by TheKraven, 20 December 2012 - 10:20 PM.

[Baturiano]

Purely HS? Vellum Spear

[TheKraven]

Yeah...How is it in WoE atm? Is HS still underwhelming even with the new Spear?

[Baturiano]

You have to be smart on how to use it, like DB a couple of times with your Vellum Spear on. If he doesnt die within 3 DBs convert your weapon to water then HS him. Will deal significant amount of damage.

[TheKraven]

perfect thanks

[Baturiano]

Note: I just want to mention this again, only in terms of HS does vellum spear exceed KVM spear on other aspects KVM tops it. (Crush Strike, Vanishing Point, Overbrand, Ignition Break)

[TheKraven]

Would a +12 vellum and full ur`s set do around the same damage as CS?

[ilovemilk]

Would a +12 vellum and full ur`s set do around the same damage as CS?

+12 V.Spear and Ur's set does amazing damage. Unfortunately, you can no longer one shot most classes due to the woe set. It's still very strong and can still one shot most classes without GR cards in their woe set.

[CeruleanGamer]

Pretty sure you can 1 shot some classes on WoE set if you have gloomy.

[TheKraven]

A Gloomy slave isn't always easy to find lol

[TheKraven]

I wonder how squishy this build will be in Woe though. Hp will still be 60k but only like 50% demi human reductions compared to 70-80

[TopDog18]

Hmm,you'll be ok,depending how fast you can swap gears and I mean,since your on a rk.....

But honestly,I'f just go with +12 woe set with gr,raydric/immune,firelock soldier carded gears,along with +12 G Spear and +12 shields for defense.then swap to +12 Urs Set w/ +12 Vellum Spear with decent enchants for fodder, or my DB setup for precast......

Damn,just realized I carry so much stuff during war.....GMs need to give us more hotkey slots -__-

But yeah,make sure you have you a Heavy Lifter Box on your rk.....

[TheKraven]

well thats a lot of switching lol

[Baturiano]

imo just drop Ur's completely, gives you more space for pots and converters.

[TheKraven]

Dam ok...was looking for something else besides DB but DB with WoE set looks like the best option

[TopDog18]

Hmm,well for DB, i suggest a different setup for it then the regular woe set,since for me,thats meant mainly for reducts....

For DB,+12 Maestro/Reload Turkey Hat or +12 Maestro/Reload CEB,BMD or fatasm BFGs/Reloaded Headgear/Umbala Spirit or Hanky/Bryn or +12 High Risk Woe Plate(My Only Two Options imo),Triple Ice Mailbreaker/Mjolnir/Combat Knife,Cranial Shield of course,+12 Strange Nid or Rest of Woe Set if you have the High Risk WP,Variants,+250 sp Urs Seal with KBC or the RWC rings with faster casting time enchants......

Imo,the setup I posted above is the best possible......Also,Bryn gives more sp overall than woe set so it is best choice since sp>>>>hp when DB'ing and unless you have a tao which completely overshadows that,I'd stick with a bryn instead of a regular woe plate compounded with peco card or something......

Also,if you have Lady Tanee carded footgear,I'd give that a try as well,even though you'd have about 50k+ hp regularly even if you stack it with tao,depending on how you buff yourself for hp in war......

Lets see,its something like this,but since i buff myself with +30 foods,inc hp pots,food rations,AB buffs,your hp/sp might defer:

With Tao:150k+ hp with all of those buffs plus woe set(firelock carded greeves,dr carded manteau/raydric)....
Without Tao:90k+ hp>>>>>
Bryn:80k+ hp/5k sp with sp foods,pots,etc.
Manaful Woe Greeves w/ Bryn:6k+ hp>>>>>>

Hmm,I might need to stop because I'm revealing to much stuff but mainly,this will be your setup with DB gears.....I aim to be the best xD
Hope I'm not missing anything from the info above.....

[zr0rieu]

Don't worry, you are not revealing anything that's considered to be valuable

[Baturiano]

Holy frack 150k HP.

[MrTyranitar]

Hmm,well for DB, i suggest a different setup for it then the regular woe set,since for me,thats meant mainly for reducts....

For DB,+12 Maestro/Reload Turkey Hat or +12 Maestro/Reload CEB,BMD or fatasm BFGs/Reloaded Headgear/Umbala Spirit or Hanky/Bryn or +12 High Risk Woe Plate(My Only Two Options imo),Triple Ice Mailbreaker/Mjolnir/Combat Knife,Cranial Shield of course,+12 Strange Nid or Rest of Woe Set if you have the High Risk WP,Variants,+250 sp Urs Seal with KBC or the RWC rings with faster casting time enchants......

Imo,the setup I posted above is the best possible......Also,Bryn gives more sp overall than woe set so it is best choice since sp>>>>hp when DB'ing and unless you have a tao which completely overshadows that,I'd stick with a bryn instead of a regular woe plate compounded with peco card or something......

Also,if you have Lady Tanee carded footgear,I'd give that a try as well,even though you'd have about 50k+ hp regularly even if you stack it with tao,depending on how you buff yourself for hp in war......

Lets see,its something like this,but since i buff myself with +30 foods,inc hp pots,food rations,AB buffs,your hp/sp might defer:

With Tao:150k+ hp with all of those buffs plus woe set(firelock carded greeves,dr carded manteau/raydric)....
Without Tao:90k+ hp>>>>>
Bryn:80k+ hp/5k sp with sp foods,pots,etc.
Manaful Woe Greeves w/ Bryn:6k+ hp>>>>>>

Hmm,I might need to stop because I'm revealing to much stuff but mainly,this will be your setup with DB gears.....I aim to be the best xD
Hope I'm not missing anything from the info above.....

A: Lady Tanee on a RK? lol
B: How on this green earth are you getting 150k+ HP? Or 90k without Tao?

[kiefer]

150k HP? so you recover 15k hp everytime you use those 10% woe potions?

[Azyrk]

You're way better off getting a WoE set + KVM. HS is kind of crap. You can do a lot more with WoE set + KVM.

[NerfSuras]

You cant get 150k on an RK with a Tao...

[TopDog18]

You cant get 150k on an RK with a Tao...

Lol,it seems to me that you just settle for a tao only,please read my post more clearly.....

I obviously know how much hp im packing every woe with MY tao equipped and fully buffed -__-

[TopDog18]

A: Lady Tanee on a RK? lol
B: How on this green earth are you getting 150k+ HP? Or 90k without Tao?

Another post from yet another person who doesn't seem to play rk...../facepalm

Trust me,if you played rk like I have played it,its superrrrrrrrrrrrr east to get 90k hp on a rk,even without lutie or BC......your just not there yet,no offense.

With tao and probably about every hp buff you can think of in the game,that is available at all times,you pull 140~150k with tao equipped,not to mention +12 woe sets with variants and foods.......

Lol,and yet again,back to your first point,you clearly have not tried Lady Tanee on rk....I can still pull at least 50k hp with it on....and again,only with the buffs and foods i pack every woe....I love the sp it gives and like I have said sp>>>>>hp,unless you have a tao,but that doesn't mean i can't switch it up from time to time xD...

What I'm saying is maybe if you went to my extent,you'd understand,but until then please refrain from posting if you don't know what you are talking about =D

[MrTyranitar]

Another post from yet another person who doesn't seem to play rk...../facepalm

Trust me,if you played rk like I have played it,its superrrrrrrrrrrrr east to get 90k hp on a rk,even without lutie or BC......your just not there yet,no offense.

With tao and probably about every hp buff you can think of in the game,that is available at all times,you pull 140~150k with tao equipped,not to mention +12 woe sets with variants and foods.......

Lol,and yet again,back to your first point,you clearly have not tried Lady Tanee on rk....I can still pull at least 50k hp with it on....and again,only with the buffs and foods i pack every woe....I love the sp it gives and like I have said sp>>>>>hp,unless you have a tao,but that doesn't mean i can't switch it up from time to time xD...

What I'm saying is maybe if you went to my extent,you'd understand,but until then please refrain from posting if you don't know what you are talking about =D

Can you try posting your "easy 150k without lutie or BC" results from here? http://web.jellyupload.com/calc/

Because I'm getting 130-135k. Also can you show some screenshots of 150k...?
Fun-fact: Tanee is never good on a RK. Please tell me how -60% HP (-40% card / not having variants so -20% from that too) and +30% SP (variants have 20% anyway) can possibly be good on a Rune Knight, a class dependent on BOTH stats.

Edited by MrTyranitar, 23 December 2012 - 01:44 PM.