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#251 behemothjr

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 12:55 PM

cool thanks i just going for mvp tank i figure flee and agi not going to be as useful in that situation.

 

think like 80% tank req than 20% offensive  is more trying to get most from skills  mainly will solo but can always help out find it more challenging


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 01:01 PM

getting mobbed reduces both flee and def. a reason why not a lot of ab's get angelus 10 anymore.

 

source thread : https://forums.warpp...efense-vs-flee/


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 01:11 PM

Isn't only Praefatio indepentend from it's single target Kyre Eleison?

Clementia and Clementia are dependant and use the highest learned level of their single target counterparts.

Therefore Agi 1 and Blessing 1 would make them weaker than having Agi 10 and Blessing 10.


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Posted 06 March 2016 - 12:20 PM

Correct.
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Posted 11 March 2016 - 05:09 AM

Edit: I'm stupid, ignore me. COMPLETELY.


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 04:24 PM

Isn't only Praefatio indepentend from it's single target Kyre Eleison?

Clementia and Clementia are dependant and use the highest learned level of their single target counterparts.

Therefore Agi 1 and Blessing 1 would make them weaker than having Agi 10 and Blessing 10.

 

Its a questionability about if he/she is getting it because of WoE2, since you can use KE on the stones and barricades to give them abit more protection, which is a very valid strategy among alot of AB's for defending them.


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 01:24 PM

Just to be sure, but this guide still really good, right? I mean its not outdated so I can get the "basics" from here, right?

 

Thanks :)


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 02:54 PM

its a bit outdated

 

for woe builds, copy the builds stated, and pump all vit from 150-175. maybe try to decrease luk to 77 as well.

 

for pvm builds, there's the option to use Temporal Dex boots, which require 120 base dex.

end-game pvm content doesn't require much vit though, unlike pvp/woe.

 


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 03:06 PM

I would be aiming only for PVM. So 120 DEX and more LUK?


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 03:11 PM

1 or 77 for archangeling card.


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 03:32 PM

It will be 1 then. I don't think I can afford an Arc Angeling.

 

I don't have much on iRO and I don't know anyone here, so... its like a fresh start with a slight advantage

also I still deciding a "main" to play to be honest. =(


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Posted 01 April 2016 - 11:46 PM

AB is a perfect class to main.
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Posted 02 April 2016 - 03:27 AM

Yea they are pretty cool to play.

 

The only downside for me is that my only way to make money would be to play the market since I wouldn't be able to kill MVPs for drops or other stuff solo, right?


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Posted 04 April 2016 - 07:01 AM

You can certainly kill mvp's solo as a support AB, you just have to treat your party members as nothing but slaves summoned by you to slaughter your enemies.
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Posted 04 April 2016 - 07:25 AM

You can certainly kill mvp's solo as a support AB, you just have to treat your party members as nothing but slaves summoned by you to slaughter your enemies.

I like it


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Posted 15 April 2016 - 02:27 PM

I was thinking to get my build to something like that:

 

Stat us (I'll try to get an Arc Angeling in some point)

 

STR 24 + 6

AGI 95 + 5

VIT 93 + 7

INT 100 + 10

DEX 120 + 7

LUK 77+ 2

 

Now for level 175/60

 

About my Skills

 

 

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Posted 16 April 2016 - 07:41 PM

I would lower INT and go for 120 DEX as soon as possible to utilize Temporal Dex Boots[1]. First post was made before their implementation so it's not up there, but they're amazing for nearly every class. A little bit of STR is great, too, to carry a few more gears to swap or bluegems/pots/yggs. In places like ET you'll need different kinds of elemental armors to survive/tank some of the higher floors.

 

For your skills, don't get Suffragium; it's really not very good in Renewal as it doesn't reduce fixed cast and it's very easy to get 100% variable cast through gears/stats alone. Meditatio 10 and KE 10 are invaluable, I think.  :ok: Meditatio to use in conjunction with Arc Angeling for better SP recovery/higher Heal efficiency, and KE for mobbing and overall support. 


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Posted 17 April 2016 - 06:07 AM

Hello. I did some modifications based on what you said

 

Status

 

STR 24 + 6

AGI 95 + 5

VIT 93 + 7

INT 100 + 10

DEX 120 + 7

LUK 77+ 2

 

Now it is level 175/60

 

Skills

 

I changed a bit now. But I have 1 question:

Why KE 10, isn't Praefatio better?

 

Also a question about Temporal DEX [1], for FS PVM AB a slotted one is better than enchanted, right?

 


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Posted 17 April 2016 - 04:00 PM

because praef isn't spammable, it has a high amount of cooldown at level 5

level 1 praef is best, but it needs to be 5 to get sacrament.

 

slotted temp dex is better, either gold acidus or firelock carded.

pairs with giant faceworm skin for the hp/sp bonus, as well as extra stats from the enchant.


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Posted 17 April 2016 - 04:46 PM

So I'll be using Praefatio on level 1 more than 5?

 

Also, after the changes, any thoughts?


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Posted 17 April 2016 - 05:11 PM

coluseo heal depends on heal's skill level, please get heal skill to level 10,

meditatio > increase sp recovery.

 

100 int without aa, would likely encounter sp problems pre-175.

 

I used morpheus set + variants + magkukulam + ancilla before to compensate.

now i use half sp cost (spiritual thrift + heartwing + geffen magic robe)

other alternatives are, Pendant of Harmony, or sp consumables like strawberries, and light blue potions.

 

Light of Cure(Cure Lv1) is must have for higher levels 126+.


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Posted 17 April 2016 - 05:43 PM

Its not a must for sure
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Posted 18 April 2016 - 03:02 AM

coluseo heal depends on heal's skill level, please get heal skill to level 10,

meditatio > increase sp recovery.

 

100 int without aa, would likely encounter sp problems pre-175.

 

I used morpheus set + variants + magkukulam + ancilla before to compensate.

now i use half sp cost (spiritual thrift + heartwing + geffen magic robe)

other alternatives are, Pendant of Harmony, or sp consumables like strawberries, and light blue potions.

 

Light of Cure(Cure Lv1) is must have for higher levels 126+.

oh sorry. heal was 10 before I changed. my bad (i'm not that noob)

 

I did some changes again on my skill job. The 10 extra points from job 50 - 60, maybe Silentium and some points on Meditatio?

 

New Skills again


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Posted 18 April 2016 - 04:18 PM

Its not a must for sure



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Posted 20 April 2016 - 07:08 AM

Right now my Status are:

 

1 STR

1 AGI

60 VIT

80 INT

30 DEX

20 LUK

 

I don't have AA card yet and have alot of status points to use (450+) at level 99/70 right now.

 

I also don't have much gear for him, I main leveling my GX and leveling the AB sometimes mostly in TI.

 

Anyway... any suggestion on what to use those points now?

Maybe more DEX and 90 INT and VIT?


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