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#26 Azyrk

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:36 PM

eMatk are not like that... eMatk are the ones that you can't see in stat windows such as musician buffs, box of drowsiness and such... weapon matk counts as the whole number in your right side of the stat window...

I did test it long ago and got something similar.

No, eMatk is visible; it's just lumped with wMatk in the stat window.
http://irowiki.org/w...#Equipment_MATK

And wMatk can't be the whole number on the right side because the right side includes things such as Odin and HBP. The wMatk formula doesn't include those buffs anywhere. =s

It makes sense to have these kinds of buffs go into a separate category of matk instead of being counted into the weapon.
Also don't think box of drowsy even shows up on the stat window at all.

Our stat window is crap.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:05 AM

No, eMatk is visible; it's just lumped with wMatk in the stat window.
http://irowiki.org/w...#Equipment_MATK

And wMatk can't be the whole number on the right side because the right side includes things such as Odin and HBP. The wMatk formula doesn't include those buffs anywhere. =s

It makes sense to have these kinds of buffs go into a separate category of matk instead of being counted into the weapon.
Also don't think box of drowsy even shows up on the stat window at all.

Our stat window is crap.


Nope, feel free to test it for yourself.

I said it before, most stat don't show up in window but you know how it works after testing damage.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:54 AM

This calculator seems to be accurate so it is actually. (Please note the HP is not the same as ours)

(402 + 727 ± 0) x 1.52 x 2.00 x 1.5 = 5148.24

Try it for yourself and for Malangdo weapon enchants use the section labeled "Additional Enchants - (Mora enchants, LVL4 weapons, custom ones)" at the bottom of "Equipment".

Edited by Riakuta, 11 January 2013 - 02:58 AM.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 06:23 AM

This calculator seems to be accurate so it is actually. (Please note the HP is not the same as ours)

(402 + 727 ± 0) x 1.52 x 2.00 x 1.5 = 5148.24

Try it for yourself and for Malangdo weapon enchants use the section labeled "Additional Enchants - (Mora enchants, LVL4 weapons, custom ones)" at the bottom of "Equipment".


Kinda close indeed.

Btw, I'm not using SoD at all lol (my SoD has Spell 5 & matk +2% enchants btw), I'm using my new (old?) Glorious Staff of Destruction and some gear that adds +matk instead so I can compensate for my high base matk.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:52 AM

Kinda close indeed.

Btw, I'm not using SoD at all lol (my SoD has Spell 5 & matk +2% enchants btw), I'm using my new (old?) Glorious Staff of Destruction and some gear that adds +matk instead so I can compensate for my high base matk.


So how does this sound instead?

+13 Glorious Destruction Staff 301 Matk
544 - 301 = 243
243 - 100 (Odin's Power Level 2) = 143 Matk
143 - 50 (Heroic Backpack = 93 Matk
93 - 48 (Chambered 2012 RWC Pendant Spell 3 Spell 3 x 2) = 45 Matk
45 - 20 (Box of Drowsiness) = 25 Matk
25 - 15 (Tasty White Ration) = 10 Matk
10 - 10 (Rainbow Cake or Durian) = 0 Matk

(402 + 737 ± 0) x 1.52 x 2.00 x 1.5 = 5193.84
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:01 AM

So how does this sound instead?

+13 Glorious Destruction Staff 301 Matk
544 - 301 = 243
243 - 100 (Odin's Power Level 2) = 143 Matk
143 - 50 (Heroic Backpack = 93 Matk
93 - 48 (Chambered 2012 RWC Pendant Spell 3 Spell 3 x 2) = 45 Matk
45 - 20 (Box of Drowsiness) = 25 Matk
25 - 15 (Tasty White Ration) = 10 Matk
10 - 10 (Rainbow Cake or Durian) = 0 Matk

(402 + 737 ± 0) x 1.52 x 2.00 x 1.5 = 5193.84


That's a good set up... but Tasty White Ration, Box of Drowsiness and Rainbow Cake stats don't show up on stat windows and they don't stack, one overwrite the other... kinda same as +10 food.

I have Matk + 3% on each pendant... I might make another pendant for spell x3 just to increase +matk but dunno yet lol.

In any case, you guys are finding new ways to increase your MATK... I believe, that after breaking the 1k barrier, damage will increase in quite a bit.
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 05:33 AM

is still nobody can reached his stats yet??
haseo, give a hint will ya?XDDD
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:58 AM

is still nobody can reached his stats yet??
haseo, give a hint will ya?XDDD


- High upgrade Staff (KvM or Vellum)
- try to mass good chunk of +matk and have it in a ~150/200 range from the base stats.
- Buffs

Simple as that =)
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:53 PM

After testing regular gears, I can reach up to 25k per released comet... quite a lot I must say.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:48 PM

Ego9k~ego9k~
..but i like it.. :p_hi:
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 06:05 PM

It'd be fun if someone makes a Warlock's guild and after recall, everyone comet same time xD
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:35 AM

With that amount of MATK, along with fbh and high upgrade staff as well as another few other "kro buffs/build", perhaps you can get close to this:




You don't need fbh to past the 25k barrier damage against a 73% demi human resistance player... I've test it already and is quite feasible.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:38 PM

Update:

Matk can go even higher than that after using pet and musician's skills...


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:44 PM

Refining your staff above +10 gives more than average MATK right? how big are the numbers?
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:56 PM

@ +14, it's +98 weapon matk.

Weapon matk > base matk.

It also gives you a "misc" matk which is random but quite good.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:00 PM

does the random number have a range?
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:10 PM

indeed.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:18 PM

As of this week, I've tweaked a lil bit the damage output to balance cast time and matk.

With all my buffs, I can deal around 29k per comet on +9 WoE Set Mage/Aco Class... and that's w/o any MvP and/or God Item... 36k per comet w/ fbh (I still need to test something else since I haven't got the chance... but if it DOES work as I think it does, I can deal around 43k per comet with all buffs and fbh).

Against non-woe set players (those who likes to use fire unfrozen or bryn or sleipnirs), Comet damage goes up to 43k w/o gods/MvPs.

So far, I have the other warlock on guild follow some tips and his Comet even w/o gods and MvPs can deal around 23k per comet... which is quite a good amount after releasing twice.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:11 AM

tutor me .haseo
ive still yet to give u any comet input from mine lolol
umm perhaps next woe2 maybe ? :rice:
looking forward to meet u if we did clash in the fort :p_hi:
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:49 AM

As of this week, I've tweaked a lil bit the damage output to balance cast time and matk.

With all my buffs, I can deal around 29k per comet on +9 WoE Set Mage/Aco Class... and that's w/o any MvP and/or God Item... 36k per comet w/ fbh (I still need to test something else since I haven't got the chance... but if it DOES work as I think it does, I can deal around 43k per comet with all buffs and fbh).

Against non-woe set players (those who likes to use fire unfrozen or bryn or sleipnirs), Comet damage goes up to 43k w/o gods/MvPs.

So far, I have the other warlock on guild follow some tips and his Comet even w/o gods and MvPs can deal around 23k per comet... which is quite a good amount after releasing twice.

that's in pvp right? so 34.8k double comet in woe?

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:33 PM

that's in pvp right? so 34.8k double comet in woe?


Nope, that's on GvG rooms (WoE reductions applied), and that's per Comet.

I'm trying to get our warlocks follow same path so Magic can be an asset for our guild.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:49 AM

that's in pvp right? so 34.8k double comet in woe?

It is in WoE I think. you can hit 40k in pvp really easily.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:19 PM

It is in WoE I think. you can hit 40k in pvp really easily.


Yes, that's in WoE environment.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

Yes, that's in WoE environment.


What reductions is that against?
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:26 PM

+9 Acolyte/Mage WoE set without GR/DR
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