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[kingjoe547]

So i heard opinions about headgear for DB build. I just wanna ask everyone's opinion who tested it out. +10KK turkey is better or +10KK COD is better? I have both COD and turkey but no KK card /heh and i dont wanna upgrade the wrong one the next time uncle enriched comes. Oh and im going for MVP build. Im sticking with Ur's set so that solves most of my problems thinking. For weapons i got +10 2x Kingbird Gungnir already. So i just use that? If Ur's shoe has a slot should i go for firelock soldier card? And i got a RWC pendant 2x Spell 3. So am i going the right path? What left for me now is to decide the 2 headgears, Cards on the Ur's accesory and should i get a glorious weapon?

New question : glorious spear or glorious lance?

Edited by kingjoe547, 05 February 2013 - 01:30 AM.

[Minsyy]

why are you using a kingbird gungnir? DB damage is related to Current HP and Max SP only. no cards will improve your DB damage. reconsider your weapon is my thing for now.

and your headgear depends on the weapon you are going to get. if u get a malangdo enchanted weapon with spell4/spell4 it gives u another 20% variable cast time reducs.
Ur's shoes at +9 and firelock is ur best choice yes. the pendant is ur best choice, cards on both accessories IF you have the funds is double Kafra Blossom.

just aim for a decent cast time on your DB stacking a nice load of variable cast time.

[kingjoe547]

Oh im not a full DB build. Im HS/DB build and i forgot i can enchant my gungnir XD And DB is not affected by matk rite? So isit better for me to go turkey for damage or COD for cast time?

Edited by kingjoe547, 31 January 2013 - 05:29 AM.

[Minsyy]

oh alright, then the gungnir is quite a good choice, Expert Archer enchants on that and ur all set for that.

and ur right, DB isnt related to matk at all. and for turkey/CoD is completely up to you. just a +10 turkey gives like... 4k HP and 200-300 SP something like that.
just check out ur cast times with both and learn what you prefer yourself. just use what feels right for you to use, the damage addition of the turkey isnt really high so you might aswell choose for the CoD, however the CoD removes the mid headgear which u can use for an Incubus carded mid headgear maybe? or Bdm?

[kingjoe547]

Ok thanks. So COD is actually better since i can cast faster and also turkey hat dont make much difference?

I got a new question: which is better for mvp? Glorious spear/Glorious lance?

[Kydon]

On demihuman mvps lance gives more dmg but its better to get glorious spear so u can use a shield. u can also use the spear on pvp/woe.

For any other mvp that can die to HS your 2x Kingbird Gungnir should be enough unless its shadow element. in that case u need Aspersio or use a Kingbird Long Horn.

Edited by Kydon, 05 February 2013 - 07:48 AM.

[kingjoe547]

ok got it! i will get a spear XD

[DrAzzy]

Glorious Spear all the way.

As for the upper headgear - +10 turkey hat is +10% hp/sp - that's +10% DB damage (actually, more like +9%, because it stacks additivly with other +% hp mods, like your shoes). +12 that turkey and use it when you need damage above all. While you would use the CoD when cast time is more important. (And in WoE, of course, that slot gets -10% damage gear or +12 CEB).

When you'd want CoD and when you'd want turkey is a complicated question:
Assuming you're DBing with a 2x Spell 3+ enchanted weapon (moonie dag for PVM, CK or Mailbreaker for WoE), and you have 2x Spell 3/3 or 2/3 RWC pendants, you'll have 100% variable cast reduction if you stand in strings. So if you're around strings, and you have that gear, the CoD won't help you at all.

Outside of strings, or if you don't have enough -% cast time gear, the CoD will BURY the Turkey hat in terms of DPS.

[kingjoe547]

but i planning to use only 1 RWC pendant x2 spell 3 because another slot is for Ur's seal to go for MVP so in this case COD is better?

[DrAzzy]

but i planning to use only 1 RWC pendant x2 spell 3 because another slot is for Ur's seal to go for MVP so in this case COD is better?

If you are using an Ur Seal, it's because you're using HS, so neither a turkey nor a CoD is appropriate (since HS doesn't depend on max HP/SP nor does it have much cast time). If you're not using HS, you probably shouldn't be using the Ur's set unless you don't have a second RWC Pendant...

The overall rule for tradeoffs between cast reduction gear and anything else is - if you're not in strings, cast reduction is king - it will always add more to DPS than whatever else you could put in the slot. If you do have strings, get 50% cast reduc (45 if the maes has high dex) from gear, the rest will come from strings, and get damage out of the rest.

What this means is - spell enchanted weapon always (since moonie dag is best db weap anyway in PVM), RWC accessories always, CoD if no strings, turkey if strings.

[kingjoe547]

imma HS/DB build so i need some gears to help my DB too.. I recently got an alice card.. Whats the best shield for it? Im planning to use valk shield