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[Insanita]

lol man play a class for long not mean u best or u know everything,it mean only u played longer...

i think the guys that run the game need decide some stuff and let players post toward that direction ..

i mean stuff like : Druid supposed be ''XXXX'' type of class post ur opinion on skill and make argument why this type of class needs this...

same with ele.

or in the end both classes will be messed up and have same ''role'' and ppl will bandwagon to which class does it better...

look ele/druid now mostly bm skill spaming and both are played as caster only ofc 99% of ppl went druid coz same ''role'' and gameplay..

The funniest thing is most agree druid is a shapeshifting class (and it happens the forms be physical only) and what they suggest makes the forms even more useless,is really funny.

Agree completely. Experience with a class does make a difference, but being good at something and having knowledge of something are two different things. Putting one or a few people in charge will probably end in bias suggestions or popular suggestions by people that may not know what they're talking about.

[Syre]

but you have played long enough to where you understand where the cclass should be right? and you still play right? because whatever has happened up until now obviously isn't working well. You just said yourself most of the suggestions don't even seem right.

So question is, who does know what they are talking about? And then why shouldn't these few/however many make decisions for the class mainly with the community backing it.

Edited by Syre, 20 February 2013 - 10:19 AM.

[otinane]

but you have played long enough to where you understand where the cclass should be right? and you still play right? because whatever has happened up until now obviously isn't working well. You just said yourself most of the suggestions don't even seem right.

So question is, who does know what they are talking about? And then why shouldn't these few/however many make decisions for the class mainly with the community backing it.

we supposed have class representatives for this or sth...on bm its supposed be Nikio but if u look in this thread basically alteris ignored and just quoted 3 random ppl and said i send these to devs...

all i know is i started play this class coz of shapeshifting but the forms are kinda useless for pve and in pvp u almost never use except for stun in dg (and on rare cases inferno which u can prolly do without) so it the end is just an aoe caster class with pointless skills that make u op?.?

The only good suggestions are from niki or ditto but most community seem to be against and alteris ignored too....even tho all agree druid is shapeshift class...

i think this a big joke and devs just gonna do sth they already have planned or mb they will listen to russian players coz there they care for game...

[Nikio]

Emm... I got tittle "Battlemagican Class Rep" here.. Idk if it will help. xD

[Syre]

Emm... I got tittle "Battlemagican Class Rep" here.. Idk if it will help. xD

haha ah that's cool, congrats bro also can you send me to the suggestions you made or quote them. this thread is realyy long and i have not seen them

Edited by Syre, 20 February 2013 - 10:51 AM.

[Viole]

They're in the week 2 thread, for the most part Sevvy.

[Sylk]

Some suggestions:

Battle Magician:
Moving Raging Strike to Druid and Invisible Arrow to Elementalist and a little modification on fairy's protection.


Fairy's Protection (Revamp):

I think it will help low level BMs in since they "lost" one stun (now lvl 30)

Old:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 1 4 7 10 13 16 19 22 25 28
MP Consumption 17 21 24 27 31 38 41 48 51 58
Short Range Defense +12 +16 +20 +27 +33 +39 +45 +54 +65 +77
Short Range Defense with DNA* +24 +32 +40 +54 +66 +72 +78 +87 +98 +110
Duration 5 min 6 min 7 min 8 min 9 min

New:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 30 33 36 40 43 46 49 52 55 58
MP Consumption 17 21 24 27 31 38 41 48 51 58
Short Range Defense +24 +32 +40 +54 +66 +72 +78 +87 +98 +110
Short Range Defense with DNA* +48 +64 +80 +108 +132 +144 +156 +174 +186 +220
Duration 5 min 6 min 7 min 8 min 9 min

Druid:
I think druid should gain 1-2 attack skills for Inferno then druid would keep transformed for more time or instead of add more skills just decrease Double slash cooldown to about 3 seconds and the follow changes:

(Doom Guard) Strengthened Skin:

Instead of defense this skill could be a resistence buff since there will be radiants in the party (in case of Tank Build this skill would be good in my point of view).

Old:
Level 1 2 3 4 5
Prerequisite Level 50 53 56 59 62
MP Consumption 127 137 147 161 171
Short Range Defense +193 +216 +242 +270 +300

New:
Level 1 2 3 4 5
Prerequisite Level 60 63 66 69 72
MP Consumption 127 137 147 161 171
All Res Increase +6% +9% +12% +15% +18%


(Inferno) Swift Arm:

Instead of attack speed buff could make it a physical damage buff for inferno and maybe change the name to Robust Arms.

Old:
Level 1 2 3 4 5
Prerequisite Level 50 53 56 59 62
MP Consumption 127 137 147 161 171
Attack Speed -0.2 -0.4 -0.6 -0.8 -1.0
Duration 60 sec 120 sec 180 sec 240 sec 300 sec

New:
Level 1 2 3 4 5
Prerequisite Level 50 53 56 59 62
MP Consumption 127 137 147 161 171
Damage +20 +40 +60 +80 +100
Duration 60 sec 120 sec 180 sec 240 sec 300 sec

(Inferno)Swift Leg:

In case someone decide to go AA build, swift arm and swift leg could be merged in one, could change the name to Swift Body increasing movement speed and decreasing attack speed at the same time!

Level 1 2 3 4 5
Prerequisite Level 52 55 58 61 64
MP Consumption 111 120 128 140 151
Movement Speed /
Attack Speed +0.2/-0.2 +0.4/-0.4 +0.6/-0.6 +0.8/-0.8 +1.0/-1.0
Duration 1 min 2 min 3 min 4 min 5 min


(Inferno) Advance:

Since druid "lost" Approach, would be nice give this skill a boost, decreasing its cooldown ( 16 seconds to 8 seconds) and making it a target skill like Rush from commander with no DNA required or just decrease its cooldown idk.



Raging Strike:

Now a physical damage buff instead of magic damage

Old:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 30 33 36 39 42 45 48 51 54 57
MP Consumption 54 60 66 71 80 88 97 108 117 125
Additional Damage 34 39 44 50 57 64 73 82 91 102
Success Chance 30% 35% 40% 45% 50% 60% 70%
Magic Attack Power 1-3 2-6 3-9 4-12 5-15 6-18 7-21 8-24 9-27 10-30
Magic Attack Power with DNA* 2-5 4-10 6-15 8-20 10-25 12-30 14-35 16-40 18-45 20-50
Duration 10 min 12 min 14 min 16 min 18 min

New:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 50 53 56 59 62 65 68 71 74 77
MP Consumption 54 60 66 71 80 88 97 108 117 125
Additional Damage 34 39 44 50 57 64 73 82 91 102
Success Chance 30% 35% 40% 45% 50% 60% 70%
Physical Attack Power 15 30 45 60 75 90 105 120 135 150
DNA (+dmg) +5 +10 +15 +20 +25 +30 +35 +40 +45 +50
Duration 10 min 12 min 14 min 16 min 18 min

Elementalist:
I saw some suggesting RoB to become a elementalist skill but I think it would'nt be good, instead of this Snow Burst and Fairy Judgement could become multi-target skills (elementalist will have 4 multi-target skills if done this way), also change Approach to Elementalist tree decreasing its cooldown from 25 seconds to 15 seconds and removing DNA from this skill (I think 5 secs cooldown is a bit to low >.<)


Approach:

Could decrease its cooldown from 25 seconds to 15 seconds and remove DNA from this skill (I think 5 secs cooldown is a bit to low >.<)



Invisible Arrow:

Now a elementalist exclusive stun.



Promise of Trust:

It would be more useful on Elementalist tree giving it more survivability


Snow Burst:

Now multi-target skill! (lvl 60 now)

Old:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 50 53 56 59 62 65 68 71 74 77
MP Consumption 105 114 123 134 143 157 168 180 188 200
Water Property Damage 248 277 311 347 389 433 485 533 582 636
Casting Time with DNA* 0.8 sec 0.6 sec 0.4 sec 0.2 sec Instant

New:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 60 63 66 69 72 75 78 81 84 87
MP Consumption 148 165 182 205 222 239 257 279 302 331
Water Property Damage 248 277 311 347 389 433 485 533 582 636
Casting Time with DNA* 0.8 sec 0.6 sec 0.4 sec 0.2 sec Instant Instant Instant Instant Instant Instant
Effective Range 5 m 6 m 7 m 8 m 9 m
Maximum Targets Effected 3 4 5 6 7 8

Fairy's Judge:

Now multi-target skill!

Old:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 60 63 66 69 72 75 78 81 84 87
MP Consumption 137 148 160 174 182 194 205 217 228 239
Wind Propert Damage 359 403 449 502 550 601 655 692 749 812
Skill Downtime with DNA* 35? 32? 29? 26? 23? 20? 17? 14? 11? 8?

New:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 40 43 46 49 52 55 58 61 64 67
MP Consumption 148 165 182 205 222 239 257 279 302 331
Wind Property Damage 359 403 449 502 550 601 655 692 749 812
Skill Downtime with DNA* 42 39 36 33 30 27 24 21 18 15
Effective Range 5 m 6 m 7 m 8 m 9 m
Maximum Targets Effected 3 4 5 6 7 8


Bliss of Fairy(revamp):

PARTY BUFF!!!

New:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 60 63 66 69 72 75 78 81 84 87
MP Consumption 127 137 147 161 171 188 202 215 226 239
Magic Attack Strength +10 +20 +30 +40 +50 +60 +70 +80 +90 +100
DNA (+dmg) +5 +10 +15 +20 +25 +30 +35 +40 +45 +50
Maximum Targets Effected 5 8 12 15 18 18 21 21 21 21
Duration 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min


Holy Bliss:

PARTY BUFF!!!

New:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 50 53 56 59 62 65 68 71 74 77
MP Consumption 169 182 196 214 228 251 269 287 301 319
Max HP +370 +414 +464 +517 +580 +645 +724 +796 +849 +929
Max HP + DNA +555 +621 +696 +775 +870 +1290 +1448 +1592 +1698 +1858
Maximum Targets Effected 5 8 12 15 18 18 21 21 21 21
Duration 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min 10min


High Concentration:

Increase duration and increase cooldown from 1 min to 1,5 min

Old:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 70 73 76 79 82 85 88 91 94 97
Property Magic Damage +2% +4% +6% +8% +10% +12% +14% +16% +18% +20%
MP Consumption 212 222 236 250 263 277 294 311 328 345
Duration 10 sec 12 sec 15 sec 17 sec 20 sec 20 sec 20 sec 20 sec 20 sec 20sec

New:
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Prerequisite Level 70 73 76 79 82 85 88 91 94 97
Property Magic Damage +2% +4% +6% +8% +10% +12% +14% +16% +18% +20%
MP Consumption 212 222 236 250 263 277 294 311 328 345
Duration 22 sec 25 sec 28 sec 31 sec 34 sec 37 sec 40 sec 40 sec 40 sec 40 sec


Mind Enhancement:

Make it INT Enhancement( Int will give more magic dmg, more scad, and more res, that will be a good boost for casters in compensation for the big boost in physical damage that meeles got using those Trinity weapons)


Also made a skill tree possible preview =)




Well if done that this way BM will stay okay, druid wont be nerfed and elementalist will receive a nice boost

Thats my suggestion I hope you like it =)

P.S.: tell me if it's in the wrong thread

P.S.S.: got some problems with tables >.<

[Wreckd]

yes wrong thread its week 2 lol

[Sylk]

pff xD

will post there too then ;s