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#26 SuperGuitarDude

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:00 PM

What annoys me the most is that every time they nerf something, PvM gets the short end of the stick. Of all my years playing I've only been to WoE twice and that's only on my Perma Novice. I want my particular character to be a Superman or a Wonder Woman.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:00 PM

sounds like someone died a lot to rapid throw :/

You use it, you know how op it is when it hits you. xD

I will tell what I know about rapid throw to annoy the annoyers a little bit.
-Just keep walking guys. Rapid Throw has an AoE of 3x3 cells. If you step out of the AoE it wont hit you.
-It has a cooldown of 10 secs, so if they fail the first one, dont run, kill them instead.
-It is Hit based so if a chaser has low dex (almost no one, that's why it is op in chasers + the resistance of a chaser), it is more probable that it wont hit you.
-You can avoid it via WI, hiding or pneuma.
-If you have a GR use it, it reduces the damage.

And for you chasers, stop crying about how hard its to lvl a chaser, if you want a real challenge, go level up a novice :gg: .
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:03 PM

You use it, you know how op it is when it hits you. xD

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it's not OP in WoE tho just saying ._.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:05 PM

You use it, you know how op it is when it hits you. xD

I will tell what I know about rapid throw to annoy the annoyers a little bit.
-Just keep walking guys. Rapid Throw has an AoE of 3x3 cells. If you step out of the AoE it wont hit you.
-It has a cooldown of 10 secs, so if they fail the first one, dont run, kill them instead.
-It is Hit based so if a chaser has low dex (almost no one, that's why it is op in chasers + the resistance of a chaser), it is more probable that it wont hit you.
-You can avoid it via WI, hiding or pneuma.
-If you have a GR use it, it reduces the damage.

And for you chasers, stop crying about how hard its to lvl a chaser, if you want a real challenge, go level up a novice :gg: .


Been there, done that (+Novice+, Tiny One). You should meet my old Guild leader, had a level 99 High Novice in Pre-Renewal.

Anyway, if you kids want a really tedious challenge go reach level 126 in Runescape (non-members) then come back and tell me how 'difficult' it is to get to level 150 here. xD

EDIT: Haven't played RS in ages, but I'm level 116 in f2p. Never again. @.@

Edited by SuperGuitarDude, 12 February 2013 - 11:13 PM.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:29 PM

The only reason that it looks OP is because a Shadow Chaser with Instant Cast is casting it. If you still think its OP see if they can give it a 1 Second Fixed Cast Time meaning it won't effect Kagerou or Oboro only Shadow Chasers.

Edited by Riakuta, 12 February 2013 - 11:39 PM.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:51 AM

People have spoken, but nothing from the GMs yet. I'm not even touching my Oboro until I get confirmation from them.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:57 AM

You use it, you know how op it is when it hits you. xD

I will tell what I know about rapid throw to annoy the annoyers a little bit.
-Just keep walking guys. Rapid Throw has an AoE of 3x3 cells. If you step out of the AoE it wont hit you.
-It has a cooldown of 10 secs, so if they fail the first one, dont run, kill them instead.
-It is Hit based so if a chaser has low dex (almost no one, that's why it is op in chasers + the resistance of a chaser), it is more probable that it wont hit you.
-You can avoid it via WI, hiding or pneuma.
-If you have a GR use it, it reduces the damage.

And for you chasers, stop crying about how hard its to lvl a chaser, if you want a real challenge, go level up a novice :gg: .


-It's a 5x5 AoE at lvl 10.
-If a chaser really wanted to hit you, they'd masq you then close confine.
-Most of the people complaining here CAN'T kill a chaser that easily. (ex: non-suras)
-It is based solely on DEX and LUK, meaning most non-howl resistance chasers still will not have a decent chance of success.
-If you WI the chaser, sure, its all good, but I hope you didn't mean WI yourself in front of a chaser and letting him full masq/strip you.
-Even a GR will not save you 100% in PvP, only if the dmg is at the low end (if its the high end, it can still exceed 60k).

:v

it's not OP in WoE tho just saying ._.

Pretty much. The only people who would die to this in woe are those unluckily enough to get hit with the high end of the damage (taking almost 50k), people who don't own a GR, or people using a low hp-mod class that was already dying to one hit from GoH anyways. It's only good if a person is stupid enough to travel alone and not immediately speed pot away from a chaser (granted, some of them will own you anyways with fly kick position bugging/statuses/masqs).

Edited by Falcifer, 13 February 2013 - 03:57 AM.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 10:35 AM

You guys need to use Rapid Throw yourselves before you get the right to complain first.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 10:46 AM

Let's burn some zeny.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:42 PM

Just... take the skill away from chasers. Complaining about the damage is pointless.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:06 PM

Just... take the skill away from chasers.



for what joy!??

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:53 PM

Does DA reduce the damage of it? I was in pvp and it didnt seem to affect it but i may of been wrong :hmm:
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

It bypasses DA, neutral barrier, CSS, etc.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 04:03 AM

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:07 AM

Oh well -_-. Guess they got it pretty nice now.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:19 AM

There's a very blatant nerf to it whenever we get it from kro it will half the damage chasers do with that skill. That seems totally sufficient. If they could push it out now that'd be best tho
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:26 AM

There's a very blatant nerf to it whenever we get it from kro it will half the damage chasers do with that skill. That seems totally sufficient. If they could push it out now that'd be best tho


Its supposed to do Half Damage if Player has not Learned Dagger Throwing Practice. Are Shadow Chasers doing full damage with the skill?
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:28 AM

chasers do 25-50k with it
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:29 AM



There's another video coming up. Cry more about rapid throw guys! I heard some of you even sent angry PM's when you got rt'd LOL
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:34 AM

-_- i hope they dont nerf this before my internet gets to working well, i love getting angry pms.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:35 AM

i think someone even PM'd and gave us a new nickname! Afrikan 2 System = Terrorist System
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:38 AM

chasers do 25-50k with it


Saw a chaser do 99900 with it so no. It's not. On gr/energy coat in pvp yeah it'd do 25-50k. Even less in woe but against no gr or EC/woe reducs it is doing full damage at the moment.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:42 AM

Saw a chaser do 99900 with it so no. It's not. On gr/energy coat in pvp yeah it'd do 25-50k. Even less in woe but against no gr or EC/woe reducs it is doing full damage at the moment.


Ok so all the skill needs right now is that slight nerf on Shadow Chaser. Other than that its not a broken skill or anything you're basically paying zeny for a Guillotine Fist.

Edited by Riakuta, 14 February 2013 - 06:43 AM.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:45 AM

Paying zeny for it and it has a SIGNIFICANT failure rate, but is ranged and hard as hell to target. Not letting chasers do full damage would be optimal i suppose but /shrug. I don't think anything should ignore reduction.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:51 AM

Saw a chaser do 99900 with it so no. It's not. On gr/energy coat in pvp yeah it'd do 25-50k. Even less in woe but against no gr or EC/woe reducs it is doing full damage at the moment.



oh crap. isnt it supposed to only do half on players?
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