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[Jen1oak]

help pls ^_^

Edited by Jen1oak, 13 February 2013 - 10:20 PM.

[Magefist]

Lol

[KryssT]

Glorious weapons or Vellum/bellum weapons....

[Lucentos]

What weapons will be best for WoE:TE to Gunslinger?

[SergioSSA1LER]

Imma use a Glorious Spear as a WL, that is the best weap for every class in all RO

Specify a little bit more please.

[Handersen]

Tin tin im using +12 kvm gladius and icepick

[Easly]

ninjas need 2 6 int grimtooths

[Kadelia]

If you need to know what a pvp weapon looks like you probably shouldn't pvp/woe on a class that is mostly ill-suited for pvp/woe

[Baturiano]

Slash the WoE part, you're better of playing wanderer instead of this class in WoE

[ilovemilk]

Don't waste your money on this class. It's only good for Chaser to copy the skill Rapid Throw.

[Joshiji]

Don't waste your money on this class. It's only good for Chaser to copy the skill Rapid Throw.

What makes you say that? I think the class is really good. It's good pvm with eventually bring able to 1 shot scarabas with kunai explosion and me doing 24k at 101 with it. I haven't gotten high enough to test pvp with it yet but I can assure you classes like sura and rk will have trouble killing them. KS has great potential with higher hp and ability to dual wield. Overall I think it's a class that can compete with 3rd jobs.

Edited by Joshiji, 14 February 2013 - 09:27 AM.

[ilovemilk]

What makes you say that? I think the class is really good. It's good pvm with eventually bring able to 1 shot scarabas with kunai explosion and me doing 24k at 101 with it. I haven't gotten high enough to test pvp with it yet but I can assure you classes like sura and rk will have trouble killing them. KS has great potential with higher hp and ability to dual wield. Overall I think it's a class that can compete with 3rd jobs.

Where do I start. Their have limited gears. They are not trans classes so they are missing out on the huge HP and stats bonuses. KS is only good against people with crappy gears. Most people with Ghost WOE set won't die to it. Rapid throw can't one shot people in WOE unless the person getting hit really suck. In PVP it can only one shot 50% of the people. I see many chaser having to cast rapid throw 5-8 times for it to proc. Chaser may be bad you say? Sure it all looks great on paper, but in my humble opinion I think that they are still at the bottom of the food chain. AND LET THE DEBATE BEGINS!

Edited by ilovemilk, 14 February 2013 - 09:34 AM.

[Maximz]

Where do I start. Their have limited gears. They are not trans classes so they are missing out on the huge HP and stats bonuses. KS is only good against people with crappy gears. Most people with Ghost WOE set won't die to it. Rapid throw can't one shot people in WOE unless the person getting hit really suck. In PVP it can only one shot 50% of the people. I see many chaser having to cast rapid throw 5-8 times for it to proc. Chaser may be bad you say? Sure it all looks great on paper, but in my humble opinion I think that they are still at the bottom of the food chain. AND LET THE DEBATE BEGINS!

the limited gears will change in later updates, there will be other versions of things like Variants (Variant [1] hp/sp +12% increase def/mdef per refine...sooooooooo +9 variants with firelock anyone?)

right now oboro is not all that great in WoE, later on however they might be.

[Kadelia]

Killing Stroke has no potential. I was able to calc it up to 200k or so damage, (WITH A TAO GUNKA) which is way less than Gfist, and unlike gfist, KS is reduced by enemy DEF status. Even an amazing 200k gfist from a 60k+ HP Kagerou is 200 * 0.6 (woe reduct) = 120k * 0.7 (anyone with decent [200+] DEF) = 84k * 0.3 (anyone with woe set and CEB/hanky) = 25.2k * 0.8 (immune or noxious garment-- ALMOST EVERYONE) = 20.16k

Won't even kill a warlock that doesn't have energy coat up.

12% more HP from variants won't change that.

Also, bad news, genetics, RGs, etc, have 80% demi not 70%, and 300+ def, I was being too generous above.

Edited by Jaye, 14 February 2013 - 10:28 AM.

[Magefist]

Next thing Oak will ask is "Best MVP cards for NINJA for PVP/WOE?"

[Lucentos]

I`m guessing that 3rd class Soul Linker will be able to boost Ninja PvP/PvM capabilities.

[magiccircle]

Killing Stroke has no potential. I was able to calc it up to 200k or so damage, (WITH A TAO GUNKA) which is way less than Gfist, and unlike gfist, KS is reduced by enemy DEF status. Even an amazing 200k gfist from a 60k+ HP Kagerou is 200 * 0.6 (woe reduct) = 120k * 0.7 (anyone with decent [200+] DEF) = 84k * 0.3 (anyone with woe set and CEB/hanky) = 25.2k * 0.8 (immune or noxious garment-- ALMOST EVERYONE) = 20.16k

Won't even kill a warlock that doesn't have energy coat up.

12% more HP from variants won't change that.

Also, bad news, genetics, RGs, etc, have 80% demi not 70%, and 300+ def, I was being too generous above.

Something must be wrong with your calc or your using the worst gears cause I got it up to 35k and 25K against GR users with woe sets.

[Kadelia]

Something must be wrong with your calc or your using the worst gears cause I got it up to 35k and 25K against GR users with woe sets.

Wow, how do you know how much you're doing in woe? Got a hack?

[Riakuta]

Something must be wrong with your calc or your using the worst gears cause I got it up to 35k and 25K against GR users with woe sets.

Wasn't that test in PvP though.

[Kadelia]

I cordially invite you to killing stroke my Genetic in PVP, magiccircle. If your damage is anywhere near what you claim, the world needs to see it with a screenshot!

(it should be 41~58k in PVP if its 25~35k in woe)

Edited by Jaye, 14 February 2013 - 03:33 PM.

[Jen1oak]

others say EA 4 4 Grimtooth 2x
others say +12kvm gladius + icepick..
i really dont knoww

just asking about the weapons. i guess i can handle the rest hehe. coz getting Glorious Weapon costs 2k KVM and its not easy to obtain it and if i get that.. and will just eventually find out other weapons are better.. that would be a waste. so just want to make sure ^_^

[SergioSSA1LER]

check out the weapons info, a little bit of research wont hurt, and it will give you the definitive answer, search for them in here:
http://db.irowiki.org/db/

[NerfChasers]

Jen Oak and her questions lmao...

[Peerless]

I actually find them quite amusing,mainly the comments and posts followed after the OP...