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#1 Kernviter

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 08:17 PM

so I'm a new genetic i guess. i made a merchant because I find the class really interesting to start with but I don't know how to build. so far i'm putting points in agi-str-dex for hitting, evading and hitting hard since i'm leveling with autoattack. i'm also getting mammonite even if i don't really have a lot of money but i guess i'll get it somehow. it seems overall really strong. Soo... I have some questions I wanna ask to make my mind clear ><
I read many threads about geneticists but I can't find anything about leveling a merchant and an alchemist. is the build i'm following good? i'll reset when i'll trascend and I read I should really invest my points into int-str-dex, hitting at least 90 with all of them for the heroic backpack. then vit 96 (or so I read, it seems that with a job bonus of +4 it will reach 100 for stun immunity). then I should pump everything else in str or luck? I read both of them influence your damage and with luck I could make potions too, so that's nice. maybe I'll do it after I get 100 str.
I made a build for pvm/mvp: http://irowiki.org/~...qFqnjNrAabhkIn1
Any tips? i know a build for WoE/pvp would take Hell Plant/Mandragora howl and crazy vines.
For equips I really don't know. i know i should get a Red Twin Edge with three archer skeleton cards for acid bomb and cart cannon. orlean's gown so I won't be interrupted when casting, heroic backpack and a valkyria shield or more than one slotted with alice card or race cards.
I have NO IDEA of what I should get for hat and headgears, boots and accessories. please use links off of the database or simple names, I really got confused with some threads ><

oh and any tip in general for starting out? X.X thanks in advance and sorry for all this questions
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:54 PM

The norm is to go STR/AGI/DEX Ctrl+click or STR/VIT/INT Cart Revo as an Alch/Bio. Once Gen, reset to the standard STR/INT/DEX/VIT.

For your build, I think it's fine, though you don't really have to max Mammonite (or even get it at all). If you really don't have a lot of money, just don't get/use it, you won't even use it later on as a Gen. I'd max Discount instead, or get points from Overcharge for it. I don't really think Overcharge helps that much. If it's worth something, then vend it instead.

The best headgear to get is probably Evil Marching Hat in terms of damage and Rudolf for healing, but if you don't want those then Crown of Deceit is alright, or maybe Abysmal Knight Helm for MVPing. Diabolus or Variants for boots, and some Kafra Blossom, Zerom or Mantis accessories (RWC accessories, waterdrop brooch, bradium rings, expert rings, etc). I honestly hate recommending hats and accessories. Too many to choose from.

My only tip: Stop wasting zeny with Mammonite if you really don't have a lot of z.
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 07:03 AM

thanks! oh ok, so I need STR/VIT/INT for leveling up with Cart Revolution? how can I reset my stats? i heard it's already hard to level up with an alchemist/merchant so i want to maximize the efficiency if possible. thanks for the tips regarding equipment >< what does RWC stands for?
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:11 PM

I wouldn't reset stats as non-trans, just slog through it, your stats get reset when you trans. Each char gets one free stat reset, but it's usually best saved for when you change from trans second job to third job (ie, biochem to genetic), since the stats that the two classes need are rather different.


RWC accessories are the two accessories called RWC Pendant and RWC Ring, promo item for the Ragnarok World Championship last fall. Items are character bound and come in a tradable box which was buyable from the kafra shop but no longer is. They're end-game gear, expensive, and honestly a genetic really doesn't get much out of them. I have a pair of very well enchanted RWC pendants, but I never use them when playing my genetic.
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:24 PM

Could you give me some tips about stats distribution? I have no idea how to work with mine at the moment, given that i'm boosting only str/agi/dex and i feel pretty fragile. spores hits me all the time, and i thought i was only going to use eden equip till trans or till i'll be able to equip valk shield/twin edge and stuff like this. Also tips on leveling with cart revo?

atm my stats are:

str 20
agi 20
dex 20

the rest 1

and for bio/gen I was thinking to follow this build for pvm/mvp:


Str - 100 base
Agi - 1
Vit 96+4 (100 total with job bonus only)
Int 90 base
dex 90 base
luk 41 base

I found it in a thread, I think you suggested it >w< maybe I should increase int to 100 or more str instead of luck tho?
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:14 AM

That build has 163 extra points - probably 80 of those should go to str 105 (i think that was my original plan, but I never put those on my gen...)

At 105 base str, the str/int/luk stats are optimized for maximum acid bomb damage - any other distribution of int/str/luk will do less damage, assuming you're using a red twin edge. Damage added in that case is, in arbitrary units, 2.8 per str, 1.5 per int, 1 per luk. (hence, 8x int 51 luk would be better, except for the HBP bonus forcing you to get 90 int).

But - that's optimized for acid bomb. Optimizing for CC would have more int and less luk.
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:46 AM

Thank you very much. Yes indeed i'm interested in acid bomb damage, i'll probably build more for cc during my leveling days and reset once i'm 150/50. i'm currently leveling up in Comodo area since a friend suggested me to do so because of a spotlight or something like that. monsters give me tons of exp. he also gave me about 150m and i'm keeping them for red twin edge and valk shield but i'm using some money got from selling strawberries and other junk for mammonite since i get hit often and hard even with about 30+ agi. i go autoattack otherwise. i'm using a buckler, eden sabre and eden equips. any tip regarding how to gear myself for this journey and what stats build i should follow? i can afford a reset stone if it will make me level up faster till trascend ><
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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:49 PM

till you get to trans, ill suggest pump agi t 50 then dex to 30-40, if you do lots f miss, start investing into dex earlier, after dex is 40 get agi to 70 then dex 50, then agi 80-90 depending your aspd needs, then start getting str if you want or luk if you ike crits and dont have any equip that gives you the thief skill doule atk, also just ignore shield at least till lvl 75 when you start turn ins

have fun be nice ;-)
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