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#1 PedroProplayer

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:45 AM

Currently 127 on my Kagerou, I want to start farming Scarabs soon. I need advice on what gear I'll need to do that.

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+9 KK CoD
+8 Special Ninja Suit with Porcellio and STR+4 enchant
+4 Grimtooth with EA 2 and 3
+7 Main Gauche with 3 Skel Archers(I'll get the 4th one)
+9 HBP with Raydric
+4 shackles
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Using Kunai Esplosion level 5 w/ lvl 10 Dagger Throwing Practice at job 29.

Anything else I could improve? What method should I use?
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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:59 AM

Quadruple Underneath (Kaho Card) Main Gauge
Fire Converter or Fire Endow
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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:17 AM

Would the Kaho Cards do more damage than the archer skeletons?
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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:35 AM

Against Scaraba, Yes.
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Posted 09 March 2013 - 07:45 AM

The charms do increase weapon attack, so using % race and %element cards might be better indeed.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:11 AM

The charms do increase weapon attack, so using % race and %element cards might be better indeed.

Depends whether these modifiers stack additively multiplicatively.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 10:35 AM

consider getting a cat glove accessory + phen card . would imagine mobbing there with the low HP pool and no shield is gonna be fun.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:01 AM

if you can get an AB/Tank or Mechanic (WP slave trust me its good.) go to AL3. The Hughel spotlight right now is awesome. Put on all your oldschool dragon+dmg gear pop 9 earth charms and a cursed water and go to town.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:18 AM

I made a Kaho and 3 Caramel MG(92% damage). With Fire endow, I am doing close to 50k damage Kunai Explosion(fire endow).

I have 100+7 STR, 26+3 LUK, and 90+4 DEX. That's without vip buffs.

Without 1 hit KOing the scarabs, it's almost impossible to grind. They most certainly kill me before I can get any good pace going and makes it very slow.

I need to boost my damage just enough so I can 1 hit KO them.

I was thinking of using Kaahi to maybe increase my survivability(I don t need my SP much, using Pure Soul).

Thoughts?
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:00 PM

if you're shooting for scaraba, two race/two elemental carded MG will greatly increase you're dmg. Also, you can endow over your explosive kunai with fire to use 10 earth charm, dealing fire elemental dmg(endow fire will overwrite earth charm's endow). you can also change your +9 Cod to +9 EMH to get +5% ranged dmg increased. also, its not too hard to +7~9 your grimtooth(it seems reasonable because your level of gear are high standard so it seems more properiate to increase your refinement level of your grimtooth, tho i would only recommend if you have 7~10 EA grimtooth). Kunai Explosion depends a lot on your base level and it is little bit hard as kagerou to aim 65k+ dmg from explosion at 127. i started doing this week's Ti, and i was dealing 38k~55k from banshee and miming(asp with quad kingbird). my level is around 142 now, and i have similar gear set up, except i use EMH and giant whisper card, and glo ring+MoH combo with glo suit. (and 8 EA grimtooth) I haven't tried soloing at scarab but i might do close to one shot. i will give you more information after i gather some more information.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 08:07 AM

I am kind of coming out of retirement so please forgive me if this is a stupid question.

I used to play a genetic and seems the formula for damage is similar to cart canon and the way the skill functions. Wouldn't it boost the damage of Kunai Explosion if he were to use maximize power? The way I used to do it was go to pvp and have a GX use magic mushroom on me until it randomly did maximize power. It lasted throughout any transition of weapons etc and even relogs, until I died. Just curious as to whether this is a viable option. I want to make a ninja as well lol.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 08:40 AM

Kahii + pure soul is absolutely awesome. A+
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:52 PM

I am finding it borderline impossible to solo grind scarabs on my Kagerou.

They hurt way too much for me to be able to tank enough to cast a second Kunai Explosion.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:07 PM

im kinda stuck at level 130 on my oboro and high TI this week is so hard to solo with. Where is the best place to grind solo at 130? (no HBP only normal gears)
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 03:11 AM

At 137 with Bryn and Aesprika and I still couldn't solo Scarabs. Levelling Kage/Oboro isn't as easy as it was promised to us.

I'll stick to turn ins for a while longer.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 04:55 AM

At 137 with Bryn and Aesprika and I still couldn't solo Scarabs. Levelling Kage/Oboro isn't as easy as it was promised to us.

I'll stick to turn ins for a while longer.


Why would you wear Asprika over +9 Heroic Backpack?
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:38 AM

I wanted the teleport, flywings are heavy.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 02:10 PM

I am finding it borderline impossible to solo grind scarabs on my Kagerou.

They hurt way too much for me to be able to tank enough to cast a second Kunai Explosion.


Why are you trying to tank Scarabs?
You should have Cicada Skin Shed and Mirror Image(if you have it) up at all times.
Kunai->CSS->Kunai

or better
Kunai->CSS->Pure Soul->Kunai

Just be mindful of what direction you are facing so you don't end up in a corner.
This is basic ninja leveling technique. Can't imagine being in the 90s let alone 130s without having mastered it.

Edited by TheSquishy, 28 March 2013 - 02:12 PM.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 03:55 PM

well throw kunai wont be worth much of anything soon
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:49 PM

well throw kunai wont be worth much of anything soon


Throw kunai has already been nerfed.
But if you have earth charms and a good weapon you can still get good damage out of it.

But Pedro was talking about Kunai Explosion, but still, same routine works.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 08:05 PM

I can grind that way, of course. I've played ninja a lot and I know how to deal with CCS. Problem is that it's just way too slow because you can t target that many Scarabs that way. If you target more than 4~6 they will attack too fast for CCS and Mirror Image to save you.

It's actually faster to sit in eden and get into every single party you find and leech exp from them.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 08:09 PM

could run around killing in abyss lake right now or odin shrine
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:44 AM

Abyss Lake is bad because Dragons are large and you'd only do half damage to them with daggers.

Odin's is bad because the spawn rate there is awful. With a cursed water I could probably one shot Skeggiolds with their 53k HP. Still slower than hogging turn in map.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:51 AM

Abyss Lake is bad because Dragons are large and you'd only do half damage to them with daggers.

Odin's is bad because the spawn rate there is awful. With a cursed water I could probably one shot Skeggiolds with their 53k HP. Still slower than hogging turn in map.


Why not just use the Power Maximize trick stated above, and party up a slave smith with Weapon Perfection 5. That should bring a considerable boost to your damage and open up leveling places with large sized monsters.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:12 AM

This week's TI is actually one of the best Turn in for Kage/Oboro.(for both magic/kunai explosion) Quad Kaho Card + Fire Endow + 9 Earth Charm made me deal around 75k~80k. be aware that I'm Kagerou. That means oboro will get around 100k. and my Kunai Splash was dealing somewhere around 20k~22k. so mixture of that makes me easy to deal dmg. aggro isnt too bad so its quite nice to bouncy and use kunai explosion.
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