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[havocstopper]

I'm getting myself set up for the renewal on Valk, but before I decide what to do with my sin, I want to know if most of the gx's skills are going to be katar exclusive. So far all I have seen are youtube vids of crit gx, and builds only mentioning katars. Can someone shed some light on this?

[TheGuindo]

I'm wondering, too. I'm hesitant to plan a GX build without knowing if the skills work with daggers. Curses @ being the unpopular sin build!

[havocstopper]

Just did a little bit of research. The only skill I can see that is Katar exclusive is Rolling Cutter and probably Cross Ripper Slasher (its related to it). I dunno about the other ones. I peeked at iro wiki


Edit: Looked at some other RO Forums and it seems like most skills are Katar based. Nothing specific mentioned though u,u

Edited by havocstopper, 18 October 2010 - 05:14 PM.

[CharAznable]

Just did a little bit of research. The only skill I can see that is Katar exclusive is Rolling Cutter and probably Cross Ripper Slasher (its related to it). I dunno about the other ones. I peeked at iro wiki


Edit: Looked at some other RO Forums and it seems like most skills are Katar based. Nothing specific mentioned though u,u

dd is not good with just normal hitting like before. if ur aiming for cross impact with high dmg(or sometimes carded dagger/sword) MG with carded main deals a lot of dmg. 120 str needed and 90 dex at least. rest u can put in luck to boost dmg and vit to hp, and Soul Linker slave

Edited by CharAznable, 18 October 2010 - 10:56 PM.

[Chaiso]

Crit GX are more common than DD because as far as I know (prove me wrong?) katars have higher ATK than daggers and therefor do more damage. Because going over 100 in a stat is extremely expensive and has little to no benefits (STR over 100 is a waste because there is no bonuses and a 20 str difference is only marginally better) a GX can put those points into LUK and get a good crit rate for more damage and also slightly more ATK from LUK.

[CharAznable]

Crit GX are more common than DD because as far as I know (prove me wrong?) katars have higher ATK than daggers and therefor do more damage. Because going over 100 in a stat is extremely expensive and has little to no benefits (STR over 100 is a waste because there is no bonuses and a 20 str difference is only marginally better) a GX can put those points into LUK and get a good crit rate for more damage and also slightly more ATK from LUK.

he was asking double dagger wise. so i answered him with what i've gained from renewal. let me give u a example. lets say my stat is 100str 50vit 55dex 51 luk and i have 103 extra on lvl 101.

this is my equip.

no upper head
evil ear
P dagger
ninja suit [1] (Earth deleter)
+4 Triple Beholder Scalpel(saber works too) +8~9 Double Flame double Power Draining MG(blade works too) (vadon/tri joint)
Scorching hood whatever(magmaring)
Shackle
bsb
rougue's treasure(or ring of power or whatever that gives str/atk)

This setting is for formless/flame mobs
and i choose magmaring(13000ish hp).

and if u use cross impact, ur dmg out put is 9900~11100, and if u use ele with sage, ur dmg is going up to 17000.
instead, with same str, and using carded elemental katar, u get 9900 at the most.

and good thing about this setting is within ninja suit/sinobi sash, u get -20% on sp usage. that means u need only 20sp for Cross Impact, and with tri joint card, with earth deleter, u get back 20sp. which means, u can use cross impact endlessly. thats the benefit of using carded daggers/swords.

[havocstopper]

So Cross Impact works with DD? Didn't know that! That damage is pretty impressive too. I got some stuff to think about

[CharAznable]

So Cross Impact works with DD? Didn't know that! That damage is pretty impressive too. I got some stuff to think about

not even dd, u can use swords too. also, i u can use it counter slash too i think. after weapon blocking.

[havocstopper]

Aw shoot now I'm really lost on what to do with my sin lol

[CharAznable]

Aw shoot now I'm really lost on what to do with my sin lol

well im doing regular katar sin. crit/chick hat switching. DD or double swordie is good if u want to invest ur time or money into some card and different sets of MGs. and need slave sage. crit sin is just doing normal dmg so it gets kinda boring. im also kinda debating either 100str(for Cross Impact) and no luck, or lower str with some luk(edp/crit).

[Hei-]

he was asking double dagger wise. so i answered him with what i've gained from renewal. let me give u a example. lets say my stat is 100str 50vit 55dex 51 luk and i have 103 extra on lvl 101.

this is my equip.

no upper head
evil ear
P dagger
ninja suit [1] (Earth deleter)
+4 Triple Beholder Scalpel(saber works too) +8~9 Double Flame double Power Draining MG(blade works too) (vadon/tri joint)
Scorching hood whatever(magmaring)
Shackle
bsb
rougue's treasure(or ring of power or whatever that gives str/atk)

This setting is for formless/flame mobs
and i choose magmaring(13000ish hp).

and if u use cross impact, ur dmg out put is 9900~11100, and if u use ele with sage, ur dmg is going up to 17000.
instead, with same str, and using carded elemental katar, u get 9900 at the most.

and good thing about this setting is within ninja suit/sinobi sash, u get -20% on sp usage. that means u need only 20sp for Cross Impact, and with tri joint card, with earth deleter, u get back 20sp. which means, u can use cross impact endlessly. thats the benefit of using carded daggers/swords.

My GX with 100 Str 1 shots Magmarings with a carded elemental katar using Cross Impact.

No idea what you're talking about.

[DarkNinja]

My GX with 100 Str 1 shots Magmarings with a carded elemental katar using Cross Impact.

No idea what you're talking about.

Can i ask what other stats you worked on as well?