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[Andini]

what

[Jaffer]

Okay let's get something out there right now. The big guilds need to look past the " oh we are the competitive woe guilds, we want 2.0 on weekends " and realize this will KILL all the small guilds. Xellie has said it before ( sorry to name drop ), but it really seems like every WOE you see less and less small guilds woeing.

Also another fact for you all, WOE 2.0 really isn't accessible to smaller guilds, especially in the current situation on the server.
Also they will never host a WOE outside their office hours

So that's completely wrong. First, there's a WoE on Saturday, secondly, WoE used to occur from 8-10 PM PST on a weekday.
The current WoE had to active staff for awhile.

And small guilds that just take castles without any serious attempt to improve add literally nothing to the server. You can sneeze and they fall over. Competitive guilds are what keep the server going. If you cater to the 40 people in small guilds and disregard the 200+ large guild players, that's retarded.

[Bazzz]

Classic server tried to appel to people who'd left years and years ago hoping to bring them back for nostalgia trip and it worked for a while with no trans and old spawns ect but now most of the people into that have left and now everyone's looking for a fully updated server 1 patch from renewal basiclly. Most of the active population are people who've come from other servers (offical or private) or who played on valkyrie or ymir pre-re not people who quit in 2003.

It is generally considerd on most servers woe 2.0 is pretty much the biggest if not only reason to play ro at all. Anything that can be done to ensure WoE 2.0 is better or at least on par with other servers, should be done. The main way people are going to come to classic now is if people on iRO tell there pserver buddies that woe here is pretty damn swagtastic and they should come check it out and if it is there's a chance these guys will stick around.

And a larger potential player population I'm sure is something that benifits everyone to some degree.

[Luckie]

Didn't there used to be a sub forum only open to guild leaders? Why not try to get most of the guild leaders from guilds that hold castles on a regular basis together and try to see what works best for them and their members. That would be better than opening a poll where people who don't even WoE can say whatever they want.

[Xellie]

Okay let's get something out there right now. The big guilds need to look past the " oh we are the competitive woe guilds, we want 2.0 on weekends " and realize this will KILL all the small guilds. Xellie has said it before ( sorry to name drop ), but it really seems like every WOE you see less and less small guilds woeing.

Also another fact for you all, WOE 2.0 really isn't accessible to smaller guilds, especially in the current situation on the server.
Also they will never host a WOE outside their office hours

WoE is already hosted outside office hours

And as for catering to XYZ group, that's what has been killing this server in the first place.

[Reywal]

Implent WoE:SE on the current WoE time slot.
Do what you want with WoE:FE, it has been a item farm WoE on other servers since WoE:SE was released. Whatever you guys come up with it will most likely not change

[AMzobud]

"If you cater to big guilds, small guilds will die"

Ok lets listen to this group of 20 people instead of the group of 100 people.

Or maybe all the small guild merge so they can actually compete instead of PvP in empty castles? :s

[cybernetic]

"If you cater to big guilds, small guilds will die"

Ok lets listen to this group of 20 people instead of the group of 100 people.

Or maybe all the small guild merge so they can actually compete instead of PvP in empty castles? :s

Indeed!

[Xellie]

"If you cater to big guilds, small guilds will die"

Ok lets listen to this group of 20 people instead of the group of 100 people.

Or maybe all the small guild merge so they can actually compete instead of PvP in empty castles? :s

When VH was 70+ people, people like you argued that the small guilds should be listened to! Like TTH and their 15 people at the time!

It's irrelevant. What you guys are inflicting on this server isn't competition. You're literally pushing for WoE 1 to be killed because you want to "gvg all day".

That's not WoE. That's gvg.

[cybernetic]

You could say the same for your arguments.

WoE 2 is gvg.
WoE 1 is precasting.

You want to kill gvg, we want to kill precasting.

Everyone has their own opinions, nothing will really change.

I believe what will end up happening is WoE 2 will be on Tuesdays at the same time, and WoE 1 will stay on Saturday, so whatever. It's the standard thing iRO has done for years. (It would be better to switch though.. Ymir 2.0!)

[Xellie]

You could say the same for your arguments.

WoE 2 is gvg.
WoE 1 is precasting.

You want to kill gvg, we want to kill precasting.

Everyone has their own opinions, nothing will really change.

I believe what will end up happening is WoE 2 will be on Tuesdays at the same time, and WoE 1 will stay on Saturday, so whatever. It's the standard thing iRO has done for years. (It would be better to switch though.. Ymir 2.0!)

except gvg and mvp competition is actually affected really badly by the results of WoE 1, where as the results of gvg are actually not so impactful on the rest of the game.

unless hammers mean nothing. Which they don't. And we know for a fact they don't.

[cybernetic]

I just want to have the most fun, and I want my members to have the most fun.

WoE 2 is where that will happen.

[Xellie]

who are you gonna fight? Just SNL and nost until they quit?

Im trying to think about how long this server can live for, not your immediate fun.

[cybernetic]

And keeping WoE 1 where it is will keep the server alive for longer?

[cybernetic]

Oh what where all the pieces are random for every fort?

Hehe.

Should do that + only open 2 forts each realm

[ElenaGilbert]

sorry xellie, as much as you want to god item woe1 farm, woe isnt all about that, woe1 kinda ruins it with portals/CP/towers/leap and such. woe2 is where is at, if your guild actually try to gvg and stop focusing on god item farming or you trying to ninja break castle with gtb/gr or ninja recall just to break you might realise how fun gvg is. fighting a guild and win the fight (not ninja break castle) are more achieving and will give ur guild more respect than just sucker recall break emp and brag that u win.

Edited by ElenaGilbert, 04 April 2013 - 03:04 PM.

[Oda]

The threads getting off the rails here. I appreciate the suggestions and I'll have information on the day and time for our WoE II testing soon.

Thank you.

[AMzobud]

who are you gonna fight? Just SNL and nost until they quit?

Im trying to think about how long this server can live for, not your immediate fun.

Stop thinking about fun and start thinking about precasting empty castles for 2 hours.

You think this is some kind of game?