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[Havenn]

Let's calc and find out...

http://drazzy.com/ca...encompare.shtml

First off, his damage is epic - He's gotta have at least one meg, probably two to hit those numbers, unless my calc is wrong (which I don't think it is - it agrees beautifully with my tests, at least)

The damage difference is only on the right magnitude if he's comparing low-end damage for fly with high end damage for true (assuming he's using an HF)

Omg, how have i not been able to find this calc before =[

[DrAzzy]

Omg, how have i not been able to find this calc before =[

I don't know, man, I don't know.
I made a thread about it here, posted earlier in this very thread that i'd updated it to account for the new formula, and it's in my sig as well. About the only thing I could do beyond this is to hunt you down and tattoo the URL on your chest...

[Havenn]

I don't know, man, I don't know.
I made a thread about it here, posted earlier in this very thread that i'd updated it to account for the new formula, and it's in my sig as well. About the only thing I could do beyond this is to hunt you down and tattoo the URL on your chest...

So.....why didn't you do that =[? lmao

[DrAzzy]

So.....why didn't you do that =[? lmao

Where do you live? I'll be over this weekend. I don't have a tattoo gun though, so we'll have to make due with more basic equipment...

[WonderTonic]

No Megs but my numbers are a little altered by equipment(Gloom). Though I must say using porcellio armor against ESL still produced some nice numbers. Weapon wise yes I'm using a +12 HF EA7 (archer skel). Your calc is pretty spot on from what I can tell, thanks a bunch. The thing that sets arm cannon and cart cannon above dragon breath is the ability to carry racial mods and both %Atk and flat attack those two skills. You can produce some really nasty results.

Edited by WonderTonic, 05 April 2013 - 01:11 PM.

[DrAzzy]

OH! Yeah, Gloom would have a similar effect, because it also multiplies weapon attack, making it a larger portion of the damage (and weapon attack is further amplified by the elemental cannonball treatment now)

[Havenn]

God, that Gloom must be nice vs Randgris lol

[sb120495]

The balance patch doesn't mention it but summon flora now deals 1 damage to plant type monsters.........

[Joaco]

How much do you guys hit per CC to Ghost MvP's? Leave weapon.

[michaeleeli]

Holy shizz this is great =D

[Havenn]

Ghost Ball Vs.ESL

38k Byeollumgum 3/4
47k Hurricane Fury 4/4

35k Thanatos Byeollugum 3/4



P.S. Mich ur sig has me all hot n' bothered

Edited by Havenn, 06 April 2013 - 05:41 AM.

[DonatoX]

Yes, I did test it... My CC did 60K on Bee and Naght Sieger with the soul cannon ball.

[Havenn]

Has anyone tested new Thorn Wall on MVP?

Does it knock them back? or at least block them?

[jshun123]

CC on ghost mobs are amazing was killing ESL with CC and it was hitting 45k ish withbjust vip buffs!!!
lvl 1 would hit 33k ish with super fast cast =)

[DrAzzy]

How much do you guys hit per CC to Ghost MvP's? Leave weapon.

You could always use the calc in my sig, and then reduce it by the by the defense of the monster?

Nobody has yet to report mismatches between my calc and reality.

[Macromega40]

Now i know how to...(or at least have a nice idea)

[killedbytofu]

just out of curiousity, does the weapon element effect the damage at all now? (will you get penalized for using the wrong element against a same element mob)

[DrAzzy]

just out of curiousity, does the weapon element effect the damage at all now? (will you get penalized for using the wrong element against a same element mob)

As stated in the wiki and implemented in my calc - When using a neutral element cannonball, the element modifier for weapon element is applied to weapon/equip attack, and the modifier for neutral element is applied to the entire damage - so weapon element does effect damage when using neutral element cannonballs. This is how it worked before the patch.

However, when using elemental cannonballs, the damage is modified only by the cannonball element (and as noted above, weapon/equip attack gets the element modifier applied twice - once on it's own, and once when the entire damage is modified by the cannonball element) and weapon element does not effect damage

[jshun123]

Btw u guys know kro can put ea enchants on some boots / armor / manteau and even mid head gears right?? lol

[DrAzzy]

Btw u guys know kro can put ea enchants on some boots / armor / manteau and even mid head gears right?? lol

I'm not sure how this is related to the topic at hand. No such items are implemented on iRO (except for the WW suit, but that's ranger only).

[jshun123]

Was meant to reply to that vid someone posted up there lol too lazy to quote

[NukeDuke]

Needs more types of cannon balls

[DrAzzy]

Needs more types of cannon balls

Let's not be greedy man, CC is now really OP, doesn't need to be made godly against the remaining elements too.

[Havenn]

Yea, I'm content with what we have now...don't want a reason to nerf =[

[Joaco]

Lol, yeah, I'm really happy too, we just need these cannon balls, shadow, soul, holy and ghost. No need to be greedy man.