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#1 DonatoX

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:55 AM

Cart Cannon : : [{( Cart Remodeling Skill Level * 50 ) * ( INT / 40 )} + ( Cart Cannon Skill Level * 60 )] % ATK

with Int 140, Atk 770

everyone help me Please!!!!
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 02:29 PM

Use Azzy's damage calc comparison: http://drazzy.com/ca...encompare.shtml
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:20 PM

Use Azzy's damage calc comparison: http://drazzy.com/ca...encompare.shtml


I'm getting 10-20% off with Azzy's calc...
It's either I'm using the tables wrong, calculating the def reduction wrong (3 diff methods of adding def reduc into it), or the calc is wrong.
Base value means your base stats and any extra points on top of that is added on to Table 1 right?
I am pretty sure I put the numbers in correctly. Although I get about ~50% (very vague) higher damage than I'm supposed to. If I calculate DEF reduction by directly reducing towards the total damage, it's still 10-20% higher than supposed.
Am I using the table wrong or what xD?
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:14 PM

Im not good in math, nor do I understand some of the list.
For example :
1). Watk = Weapon Atk,right? So, how about + ATK . If I have atk 350 + 400, what should I put in the + atk box???
350 or total??? So confused.

2). +% Physical, +% Magic, and +% Ranged, Are those % from my all equipment??

Can someone expand to me?? Please!!!
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:10 PM

The calc gives the damage before accounting for defense. I can't say I really understand how def works with CC.



For weapon attack, you put in the number shown in the weapon description.

For +ATK you put the total of all effects that say stuff like +5 atk or +50 atk.

For +% physical, you put the total (multiplied, if you have +% damage effects of different types) of all +% atk and +% damage vs type that apply to the target.

For +% ranged, that's the sum of all +% ranged damage from gear/cards/etc

For +% magic, that's all +% matk and +% magic damage vs type, just as with +% physical

Ignore the atk number in the status window; the status window doesn't reflect reality
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:17 PM

Thank you DrAzzy.. seem like a lot of work to do for me.. ><"
and So, I tried CC with x2Meg and Meg + Bris. I got a better dmg on x2 Meg. Why???
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:23 AM

Thank you DrAzzy.. seem like a lot of work to do for me.. ><"
and So, I tried CC with x2Meg and Meg + Bris. I got a better dmg on x2 Meg. Why???

OMG!
Cause you can't compare 140 STR (being 150, or course) to 76 str and 10 int lol
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:41 AM

Thank you DrAzzy.. seem like a lot of work to do for me.. ><"
and So, I tried CC with x2Meg and Meg + Bris. I got a better dmg on x2 Meg. Why???



Are you saying you don't get better CC damage with 2x meg?

I would certainly expect 2x meg to do more damage than meg + bris. 10 int is not enough to beat out 70 str....
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:03 PM

No.... x2 Meg is better than meg + bris. But I have a problem with my Stat right now. and your table is too hard for me to cal.. ><"

45 - 50k on ESL
45- 50k on Groomy
57 - 60k on Bee

Edited by DonatoX, 22 April 2013 - 12:06 PM.

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#10 DonatoX

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:09 PM

Can I list all of my Stat and my Equipment here?? and you do it for me. ><" Dr.Azzy
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:03 PM

Post them and I'll try to do it when I get home. I don't think he wants to do it lol.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:09 PM

hahaha...
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:24 PM

Pmed you already ^^ Thank you inadvance ^^
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:25 AM

Eh, i'd have done it if he posted the gear and stats he was using in public ;-)
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:05 AM

Oh, I thought you wouldn't.. sorry. Ask him via PM. he sent it to me too.. but I can't do it right now, I'll do it later.
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:05 AM

Lol...What do you mean DrAzzy?? I won't post it in public for sure.. kind of scare right now.
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:16 AM

LOL! Was it because of me? I just was amazed. Don't be affraid of me xD
Btw, do you want to test normal cc? or elemental ones?

Edit: Just pm'ed you back with the results with normal cc and ghost cc :)

Edited by Joaco, 23 April 2013 - 08:23 AM.

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#18 DonatoX

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:20 AM

test both... Please!!!!
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:25 AM

Post the gear you use to mvp!!!
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:15 PM

Lol...What do you mean DrAzzy?? I won't post it in public for sure.. kind of scare right now.


I don't like people who are all secretive about their gear is all. So I'll help you, but only if you post it publicly :-P
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:57 PM

Thank you again Joaco. And Lolllll... Azzy, I'll call you "Evil Azzy" right now. ^^
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 05:11 PM

Lol! No problem DonatoX!
Evil Azzy, LMFAO!

Btw, try testing it in-game and tell me if the numbers are something like that!

Edited by Joaco, 23 April 2013 - 05:11 PM.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:12 PM

Evil? No, evil would be if you PM'ed me your gear and I posted that + the calc results in this thread.
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:15 PM

wowww... Just Joking man ^^ hehe lol...I'll do it ^^
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:30 PM

Evil? No, evil would be if you PM'ed me your gear and I posted that + the calc results in this thread.


If you did that, I would call you All-mighty Azzy lol
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