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[MiahBoy]

Hi, I'm a new player named MiahBoy playing valkyrie server. The server is awesome but Im having one issue with it. Hitting monster is fine, loading screen is fine but when I'm click walking, the char seems to got stuck and I need to click a few times in order to make my char walk. It's really hard to walk smoothly.

Please Advice. Thank you

[DrAzzy]

Start -> run, type cmd

type tracert iro.ragnarokonline.com
Wait for it to finish.

rightclick in window -> "mark"

select the text of the tracert, and then press enter (this is how you copy/paste from a command window), and paste it into a response to this thread.

[MiahBoy]

Tracing route to iro.ragnarokonline.com [128.241.93.60]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
Over a maximum of 30 hops

1 43 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms nme-sot-dry-bras4-lo-20.tpgi.com.au [10.20.20.16
7]
3 29 ms 18 ms 18 ms nme-sot-dry-csw2-port-channel-3.tpgi.com.au [202
.7.173.61]
4 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms nme-sot-dry-crt2-ge-0-1-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.173
.53]
5 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms nme-nxg-wal-crt2-ge-6-0-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.162
.53]
6 31 ms 31 ms 29 ms syd-nxg-men-crt2-ge-5-0-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.171
.137]
7 181 ms 181 ms 180 ms if-4-0-0.core3.SQN-SanJose.as6453.net [216.6.33.
1]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 General failure.

I don't know what I'm doing. xD Is this ok?

[MiahBoy]

I'm using wireless and every 30 seconds the connection will freeze for 2 seconds but within that 30 seconds it is fine. That's how I get request timed out.


1 23 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 18 ms 17 ms 18 ms nme-sot-dry-bras4-lo-20.tpgi.com.au [10.20.20.16
7]
3 17 ms 18 ms 19 ms nme-sot-dry-csw1-port-channel-3.tpgi.com.au [202
.7.173.77]
4 18 ms 19 ms 18 ms nme-sot-dry-crt2-ge-7-0-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.162
.41]
5 20 ms 19 ms 18 ms nme-nxg-wal-crt2-ge-6-0-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.162
.53]
6 30 ms 32 ms 30 ms syd-nxg-men-crt2-ge-5-0-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.171
.137]
7 180 ms 180 ms 182 ms if-4-0-0.core3.SQN-SanJose.as6453.net [216.6.33.
1]
8 * 186 ms 181 ms Vlan56.icore1.SQN-SanJose.as6453.net [209.58.116
.49]
9 180 ms 182 ms 181 ms 0.xe-4-1-0.BR3.SJC7.ALTER.NET [204.255.168.177]

10 183 ms 180 ms 202 ms 0.ae3.XL4.SJC7.ALTER.NET [152.63.50.10]
11 262 ms 262 ms 262 ms 0.ge-7-2-0.XL3.MIA4.ALTER.NET [152.63.85.58]
12 263 ms 264 ms 263 ms POS7-0-0.GW10.MIA4.ALTER.NET [152.63.81.57]
13 262 ms 265 ms 262 ms asurnet-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.88.246]
14 275 ms 274 ms 275 ms xe-1-0-3.usa.brx-teracore01.columbus-networks.co
m [63.245.5.160]
15 275 ms 301 ms 275 ms xe-1-0-0.usa.nmi-teracore01.columbus-networks.co
m [63.245.5.101]
16 264 ms 256 ms 271 ms so-3-0-2.usa.pan-pob-edge02.columbus-networks.co
m [63.245.5.145]
17 261 ms 263 ms 260 ms 63.245.69.190
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * 262 ms 261 ms 24.244.158.2
20 261 ms 260 ms 261 ms 208-87-34-18.securehost.com [208.87.34.18]

Trace complete.


This is another one

[DrAzzy]

I'm using wireless and every 30 seconds the connection will freeze for 2 seconds but within that 30 seconds it is fine. That's how I get request timed out.

And the problem comes into focus. Fix your wireless.

You are never going to get acceptable play on any online game using dodgy wireless. Run a cable to your router if you have to. If it's dying every 30 seconds to an extent that everything stops for a few seconds, it's probably losing packets right and left. Material on the art of making wireless suck less is easy to find online, as this is a common problem.

I would try to get the wireless straightened out, then see if it still lags, and if so, take a tracert so we can see what it looks like without the influence of a dodgy wireless connection.

Regarding the tracerts:

And, was the second tracert to iro.ragnarokonline.com? Cause, that's not where it ended. The last host should be *.iro.ragnarokonline.com [128.241.93.60]

If the second one was a tracert to some other site, please take another one to iro.ragnarokonline.com (your first one died halfway through).

If the second one was a tracert to iro.ragnarokonline.com, do:
tracert -h 30 iro.ragnarokonline.com

Either way, you want something where the last line ends in *.iro.ragnarokonline.com [128.241.93.60]

[MiahBoy]

Regarding the wireless issue, my computer is still under warranty and when I send it to ASUS service centre, they said they dunno how to fix that. I've sent it in for the 3rd time and it still come back with the dodgy wireless. But, I'll definitely get this fix cause I want to enjoy the game. I'm surprise that you know how to fix wireless more than those guys at the service centre. Thanks for the info...

"You are never going to get acceptable play on any online game using dodgy wireless."

I've downloaded at least 20 other games (Luna Online, Wonderking, Ran Online, Iris Online, Maple story, Battle of the immortals, Heroes of three kingdom, etc etc etc) they all run just fine and the same goes to this valkyrie. I've been testing on the lag of valkyrie and it does not lag at all. Not even a bit of lag. I can consume pot without lag, killing monster without lag, chatting without lag, loading map without lag BUT the only thing that is lagging is the click walking. I heard my friend saying that Ragnarok has 3 servers and Map Loading is one of them is that correct?

So, do you think the click walking lag is still because of my wireless? If it is, how come everything is running very smooth but only the click walking?

I hope you know what's wrong cause I have no one to turn to. xD

Thanks in advance


EDITED:

Yes, i type tracert iroragnarokonline.com

I'll try tracert -h 30 iroragnarokonline.com now

Edited by MiahBoy, 20 October 2010 - 07:30 AM.

[MiahBoy]

Yes I got it

Tracing route to iro.ragnarokonline.com [128.241.93.60]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 34 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 18 ms 19 ms 18 ms nme-sot-dry-bras4-lo-20.tpgi.com.au [10.20.20.16
7]
3 19 ms 17 ms 17 ms nme-sot-dry-csw2-port-channel-3.tpgi.com.au [202
.7.173.61]
4 17 ms 19 ms 17 ms nme-sot-dry-crt2-ge-0-1-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.173
.53]
5 18 ms 17 ms 17 ms nme-nxg-wal-crt2-ge-6-0-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.162
.53]
6 30 ms 29 ms 30 ms syd-nxg-men-crt2-ge-5-0-0.tpgi.com.au [202.7.171
.137]
7 181 ms 181 ms 180 ms if-4-0-0.core3.SQN-SanJose.as6453.net [216.6.33.
1]
8 * 181 ms 181 ms Vlan56.icore1.SQN-SanJose.as6453.net [209.58.116
.49]
9 182 ms 181 ms 181 ms ae-1.r06.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.1
3]
10 181 ms 183 ms 182 ms ae-7.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.5
4]
11 191 ms 191 ms 190 ms ae-6.r20.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
46]
12 191 ms 192 ms 191 ms po-1.r00.lsanca19.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.6.3
8]
13 192 ms 192 ms 192 ms xe-6-4.r00.lsanca19.us.ce.gin.ntt.net [204.1.253
.102]
14 192 ms 192 ms 192 ms iao.demarcation.gravityus.com [204.2.170.50]
15 193 ms 192 ms 192 ms *.iro.ragnarokonline.com [128.241.93.60]

Trace complete.

[IronSinew]

Honestly RO has poor video refresh and data transfer coding. I played RO in its alpha stages when it was just the basic classes and there has always been odd delays when clicking to travel. You'll get used to it and just spam click to move eventually.

~Iron

[IronSinew]

Another thing you can try is to disable Windows' TCP/IP auto-tuning.

A guide can be found here

http://www.speedguid...n_q.php?qid=247


This is based around the idea which was discussed here

http://forums.irowik...ead.php?t=19534

~Iron

[DrAzzy]

When you say "click walking" that's unclear (could mean delay between clicking and walking, delay while in mid stride, or randomly stopping while walking, which each mean something different). Does your mouse move smoothly while you're lagging? That's the easiest test for whether it's network or processor/local lag. If the mouse lags too, it's your computer.

If that's the case, figure out what's lagging your computer and kill it - change scheduling of AV scans if that's what's lagging you, don't leave glitchy webpages open in bloaty browsers (i've seen firefox pin a CPU when running a poorly written flash application). Don't run bittorrent when playing RO.
Make sure your computer is not overheating and switching into slow-mode.

Once you've confirmed that it's network lag:
Try playing with the wireless turned off, and the computer connected with a network cable to the router - see if there's a difference. That will eliminate potential wireless problems from the equation.

If that still doesn't fix it, then the lag is with your ISP (i see packet loss at as6453 in that - they've been failing it up all summer, causing lag spikes for US comcast customers as well, who have the misfortune of being routed through their crappy network).
Solution in this case is to try using a service like lowerping.com (free trial is available)


As for working on the wireless problem:

Most likely the reason ASUS couldn't fix it is that the problem is likely not with the hardware. Wireless is inherently dependent on the environment it's in. Depending on how your house is built, where your modem and access point are located in the house, as well as the location of large metal appliances and anything that generates RF interferance. Plasma balls and anything similar to them are a definite no-no in the vicinity of wireless. I wouldn't be surprised if those "Ionic Breeze" air purifiers (and all knockoffs thereof) could interfere with wireless too.
There are sites with more detailed information.


And that, my friend, is why my appartment is wireless free! I run CAT-5 around the whole outer wall, with several 8-port switches in strategic locations, to cover the whole appartment. I even fed cables between the couch cushions, so you can just pull a network cable out of the couch. Throughout college, we always used wired networking in our apartment. We just used the wireless for the mobility, never for anything serious, or remotely serious.

Wireless just plain sucks. With wires, you leave nothing to chance! That, and the hardware is dirt -_- cheap now. Network cards are integrated with everything, network switches are $10 each, and even the corner computer store sells not only (overpriced) network cable, but also stocks the crimp tool and connectors to make your own.

Edited by DrAzzy, 20 October 2010 - 11:08 AM.

[MiahBoy]

To Iron,

Thanks for the info. Now I know I'm not the only one that is experiencing this.



To Drazzy,

My mouse cursor and everything move real smooth. The only thing is the click walking. Just as Iron says, I might as well get used to it and spam clicking.

I agree with you that wireless really sucks. I've tried playing with cable before and it makes no difference.

Anyway, Thank you guys for helping me out. I'll try to get used to the click travelling delay.

Have a nice day.

Thanks Drazzy for the fast reply.

[IronSinew]

Take a look at the links. It may help you out substantially.

~Iron

[DrAzzy]

Okay, yeah, if the mouse keeps moving smoothly, it's a network issue, so try the network-related things i suggested. If you can demonstrate that it's not your wireless (by fixing it or connecting to router directly (ie with wire), try using lowerping. It worked wonders for my connection, and i normally have a decent connection.