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#1 DonatoX

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:06 AM

I tried +13 HF with EA5,2 but uncard, and the Hammer on Bapho.
With CC skill, dmg was so differrent.
With the Hammer : My dmg was like 45 - 52k and I can survive from EQ.
With HF : My dmg was like 80 - 88k but die super fast... need a tanker
Is it normol dmg?

So, I'll try to enchant it to EA5,5 and put AS card on my HF. then only use it in ET only
What do you guys think?
Who can have more then 100k dmg with CC skill, Please!!!! tell and teach me.

Edited by DonatoX, 07 May 2013 - 08:07 AM.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:41 AM

What other gear do you have? Belts/sliep? Any other +% ranged damage gear?

EDIT: also what's your base str/int?

Edited by Viri, 07 May 2013 - 08:42 AM.

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#3 DonatoX

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:06 AM

I have full set of Gods, and +12HBP(GW)
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:40 AM

That's what I thought, base int and str? I think 120-125k is the highest I've heard of(250k lexed)
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 12:36 AM

+13 HF is better than +13 RTS?
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:59 AM

+13 HF is better than +13 RTS?


CC wise it is

And if you're only, only going to use it in ET anyways you might as well go AK cards. Not a huge boost at all, but it's still tiny tiny tiny bit higher than AS cards.
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:18 AM

That's what I thought, base int and str? I think 120-125k is the highest I've heard of(250k lexed)

Highest we were doing in ET was 400k (lexed) on Entwein LOL
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:47 AM

Highest we were doing in ET was 400k (lexed) on Entwein LOL

Nice dmg, guessing gloom armor? 120 str with megs?

Good thing about HF is that its not breakable, so you can safely use Pyroclastic and get a nice boost in damage but less survivability at the same time.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:37 AM

Gloom isn't a fair comparison lolllll but yeah i can see that for sure. Gloom adds a ridiculous amount of atk on a high atk weapon. What weapon Aaron?
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:03 AM

Highest we were doing in ET was 400k (lexed) on Entwein LOL

hahahahaha.... I was waiting for u. Can you teach me the stat??/
and Do you use Gloom?? right?? And so, How much is ur dmg if you're not using Gloom?
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:05 AM

Nice dmg, guessing gloom armor? 120 str with megs?

Good thing about HF is that its not breakable, so you can safely use Pyroclastic and get a nice boost in damage but less survivability at the same time.

But You'll die easily ><"
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:35 AM

hahahahaha.... I was waiting for u. Can you teach me the stat??/
and Do you use Gloom?? right?? And so, How much is ur dmg if you're not using Gloom?


Well, gloom is +96% to weapon/equip attack versus those things, and weap/equip attack is dominant here, particularly for CC. I think all the difference can be accounted for by gloom alone.

+13 HF is better than +13 RTS?

It does a little more to medium and a hell of a lot more to large - but the damage comes at the cost of the shield, which makes it usually a poor choice.
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:18 AM

Gloom isn't a fair comparison lolllll but yeah i can see that for sure. Gloom adds a ridiculous amount of atk on a high atk weapon. What weapon Aaron?

Hammer

No additional buffs outside what an AB can give.

We were doing almost 300k to beez as well. I think last time I could have done that without mental strength lmao, it died so fast.

I think total it was ~30 bombs for the entirity of ET.
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 11:39 AM

Hammer

No additional buffs outside what an AB can give.

We were doing almost 300k to beez as well. I think last time I could have done that without mental strength lmao, it died so fast.

I think total it was ~30 bombs for the entirity of ET.


Hammer + x2 Meg + Gloom ? right?
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 11:33 PM

Totally forgot the size modifiers of each weapon. Hammer will do more damage than HF on Entweihen as an example. There are times where HF will out win hammer, so its pretty much situational with some trade offs. I'd still consider over upgraded EA enchanted kingbird HF a must get though.

As for ET, hammer is better. You can weapon switch to HF at some points but will require dedicated tank/support.

And Donatox, since Entweihen is demon/shadow and looking at the huge amount of damage output I'd think a gloom was used.

Edited by Beata, 08 May 2013 - 11:45 PM.

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