PVPing as a wizard?
#1
Posted 24 May 2013 - 11:22 AM
So any tips for you PVP wizards? Or should I just leave that behind for the more burst damage Sorcs?
#2
Posted 24 May 2013 - 01:33 PM
#3
Posted 24 May 2013 - 02:55 PM
It's not all bad, I've gotten some pretty good scoring rounds, but I can't maintain any sort of consistency. Also my success seems to hinge heavily on how many Rangers/Assassins/Sorcerers there are in the same arena, as those are the classes that are good at shredding Wizards. There's also the luck of how often monsters lock onto you. (I had a round where 5-6 monsters locked onto me at once...)
Probably the only real tips I have are to stay moving a lot to try to prevent people from getting a lockon, since that often means death, and that Teleport can be used to chase down fleeing targets. Using Teleport defensively is mostly limited to the slow non-ranged classes like Knight or Rogue.
#4
Posted 24 May 2013 - 04:08 PM
#5
Posted 25 May 2013 - 04:31 AM
It is convenient though when you're still in the Bapho/PvE phase and you have blood points to spare. Think of Colo as a part time job-
I might be wrong in assuming, but it seems you're under the impression that every other player in the arena are actually level 50. It's an "equal level" match because everyone becomes level 50 and the stats are standardised, including your own.It's either that or I'm just surrounded by level 50s in a "equal level" match. I can only advance up to around Round 3 as a level 27 wizard ...
The differences between you and other players are the number of skill points you acquired through -real- levels. There could be a level 12 Swordsman running about and you will still see him as a level 50.
Edited by Chocs, 25 May 2013 - 04:45 AM.
#6
Posted 25 May 2013 - 05:34 AM
#7
Posted 25 May 2013 - 11:31 AM
Anyway, finished 3rd just now, not bad!
#8
Posted 26 May 2013 - 12:24 AM
I haven't won but I've been getting to the last round almost every time since I was level 25. Wizard is great in colo.
#9
Posted 26 May 2013 - 01:50 AM
Fire Flower all the enemy you see, Firebolt every low health enemies, kill mobs. When banged, ICE WALL, tele, Frost Nova.
PROFIT.
#10
Posted 26 May 2013 - 05:10 PM
#11
Posted 26 May 2013 - 05:25 PM
#12
Posted 26 May 2013 - 05:33 PM
#13
Posted 27 May 2013 - 03:40 AM
#14
Posted 27 May 2013 - 08:26 AM
#15
Posted 27 May 2013 - 09:56 AM
According to the INT vs AGI post, no.
Where is that post?
#16
Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:21 PM
#18
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:11 AM
Teleport and Fire Flower is your friend.Everytime I enter the Colusseum I just get my behind devastated. It's either that or I'm just surrounded by level 50s in a "equal level" match. I can only advance up to around Round 3 as a level 27 wizard and after that it's just assassins and rangers tearing me a new one with 1-5k hits when all I have is a slow charging firebolt and lightning bolt which I dub "The Kill Stealer"
So any tips for you PVP wizards? Or should I just leave that behind for the more burst damage Sorcs?
-Keep on running
-Keep on "Tabbing"
-Put Fire Flower on everyone
-When you see a low hp player, stop and do your FIre Bolts/Balls
-When you see a running low hp player, chase him/her with Lightning Bolts (even if it's only Lv1)
-When you see a mob of monster/player, use Inferno (while running)
-When someone hits you, Tele > Water Seal > Seal Explo > Fire Seal (while running)
-Use Ice Wall wisely
That's it.
P.S.
Ignore the person who's hitting you unless he/she has lower hp than you. Just keep on running and putting Fire Flowers on everyone. The person who's hitting/chasing you will give up once you get full hp from Water Seal + Seal Explo.
P.P.S.
Do not fight like a Sorc. Most Wiz I see in Colo just stands there doing their bolts....being very vulnerable. Sorcs can kill someone in 4hits; Wizards can't. If you die a lot and kills less, you'll get eliminated.
Edited by iyoter, 28 May 2013 - 07:09 PM.
#19
Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:42 AM
#20
Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:46 PM
If britney spears can do it, anyone can
#21
Posted 30 May 2013 - 06:43 AM
It was awesome. My new build seems to be very effective at getting kills (though I still get KSd plenty too!)
Protip: Lose Fire Explosion entirely.
#22
Posted 30 May 2013 - 07:06 AM
Back to topic. FIre Explosion is useless mark my words (unless you're building a full PVE Wizard, then it's ok to put a single point in it, although many PVE Wizards drop this skill too)
#23
Posted 30 May 2013 - 09:17 AM
Yeah 2 fire bolts can do more damage, but they also require more time. Charge up time, cast, wait til it hits...then charge it up again, cast, wait til it hits... (and hope none miss and both crit!). You guys are looking at numbers on paper more than the actual skill effect in real-time, which isn't a good way to judge something.
In PvP it's actually more effective than PvE, because of both the instant damage & stun. The stun is deceptively helpful because it gives you 3.5 extra seconds to use a potion-- which you can use even in the middle of the animation-- where in some situations it would otherwise be too late and you'd be dead.
The negative about the skill is needing the 100 stacks to build up to, but there ARE fights where it is especially helpful, even 1 v 1's. Try fighting against FS priests in duels or even 1v1 in the colo without flame explosion-- you will almost always lose if the priest knows what he's doing. Of course you want to avoid those kinds of fights, but there will be times you get stuck with no one else in the vicinity and not much of a choice.
What will someone do if they hit a final round with 3 priests? Pray they get lucky?
With flame explosion, those longer fights give you another way to "checkmate" so to speak, just like using ice wall in the last 10 seconds of the final round. Your opponent will now have *two* things to worry about, and as the fight goes on without you dying (via teleporting and freezing them, lets say) they will get more and more nervous that your [deadly] instant-burst explosion might be ready to use.
*Edit* I was the one playing as brittany in the champ video a few posts back, to give myself a little credibility.
Edited by xxalucard, 30 May 2013 - 09:19 AM.
#24
Posted 30 May 2013 - 09:53 AM
That seems to be the main issue, other then still being murdered by Rangers/Sorcs that lock on first.
In regards to Flame Explosion... can only see it being used against Priests. Otherwise, you don't Firebolt enough times to get 100 madness. If only you could charge Madness with Lightning Bolt so that you could power it up while pursuing
#25
Posted 30 May 2013 - 04:12 PM
Much easier time in colo (and winning it).
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