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#1 AssassinKai

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:44 PM

I just want to learn how did more experience sins out there do in colo? Cause honestly i can't even pass round 3 sometimes...and there is only once i pass round 4 with spamming tons of wind potion and pump it up pills.

What are you the skills/strategy???

Share please so bp will be closer to more sins instead of freaking rangers,sorc


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:15 PM

Lvl 5 Poisoning Weapon. Since you are an assassin kill those TOP 1-5, just keep keeling, Use hiding + shadow assault at the beginning. Use TAB to search for low HP ones.
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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:52 PM

Getting to the final round as a sin is pretty easy. I have no doubt you can do it. Like pollenpetal stated, tabbing through people and finding low ones to leap or throw dagger at are very good ways of getting kills. If that doesn't seem to be working and the gods of ks aren't in your favor, you can turn to killing mobs because as a sin, you can drop them very quickly. Aim for the 15k hp mobs if you can and save your Shadow Explosion for the last 3K or so HP and you can pretty much garuntee a kill on a big mob. As for other players id say save your combo points until you can Shadow Explosion and try to hit them at 2k or so, many times it will garuntee you a kill. Poisoning weapon level 5 helps as stated before, but I personally don't have it, even without it you can do fine. Good luck and just due to the nature of colo you have to get a little lucky with the kills :D.
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Posted 11 June 2013 - 12:19 AM

Yesterday i went to colo first time as a sin, lvl 30 and it's way much easier than my lv 50 knight. (mind you im a casual player that dont use kafra or getting full buff). Imo from round 1 to 4 just try to secure 1 kill and focus on monster. If you think you got enough point, switch your target to those who have full buff to make your next round easier. Even tho you might dont have enough damage and might die from it, usually others will start targetting your target once they see him/her health is not full.
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Posted 15 June 2013 - 05:09 AM

Thanks for all the replies
Looks like the method kind of work and i notice its he best way to get BP
Hopefully i can get champion soon in future times
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Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:24 AM

If you see a Knight/War/BM/Monk fighting a Archer/Mage help them, and if the archer/mage was focusing on the tank kill the tank when afterward. I don't do this but its what happens every ****ing time I'm on my war so it must work some. For what ever reason Sins are the only melee I see consistently attack other melee.
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Posted 16 June 2013 - 05:36 PM

Lvl 5 Poisoning Weapon. Since you are an assassin kill those TOP 1-5, just keep keeling, Use hiding + shadow assault at the beginning. Use TAB to search for low HP ones.


Lvl 5 Pos. Wep is a horrible idea. You can get better use of the extra 4 points elsewhere. You shouldn't be relying on a DOT for the kill. You need to time attacks.
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Posted 16 June 2013 - 05:41 PM

I just want to learn how did more experience sins out there do in colo? Cause honestly i can't even pass round 3 sometimes...and there is only once i pass round 4 with spamming tons of wind potion and pump it up pills.

What are you the skills/strategy???

Share please so bp will be closer to more sins instead of freaking rangers,sorc


Thank you



Personally, as a Sin, i sit back and wait. GEtting the first kill might get you placed number 1, but now you have a huge target above your head. I wait stealthed for a few people to get number 1, so it bounces around a little bit. Then go in for the kill. That way you get maybe 2 or 3 And you don't instantly get focused. From there, it's just a tabing / Hide n seek game. Tab through untill you find the players with lower HP and jump on them. You can also save your pounce for people who pop wind elixers. And like i read earlier, As i Sin, i avoid knights / Warr's and focus on the squishy Rangers and Sorc's / Wiz's. It's all situational though. if you're quick with you, you get get a double kill by going after someone who is in a 1v1, getting the guy with MORE hp, so by the time you kill him, the guy he was attacking is almost dead. Just leap to them, and Finish em off. It's colo, and for how unbalanced it is, you have to play dirty :P
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Posted 17 June 2013 - 01:30 AM

Lvl 5 Pos. Wep is a horrible idea. You can get better use of the extra 4 points elsewhere. You shouldn't be relying on a DOT for the kill. You need to time attacks.



Oh yeah? 450+ damage per 2 seconds is a horrible Idea? So its like when I envenomed them and I have a chance to catch a different prey with low HP I can still go for the kill.
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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:28 AM

I wanted to post in here more in depth before but I had just started playing and wasn't sure of everything like I am now.

 

First off my build at lvl25:

http://www.ro2base.c...1.1.1/0.0.0.0.0

 

My Build at 50:

http://www.ro2base.c...310543.22310543

 

 

You can do whatever with your stat points, I really don't ever get hit for much but if I do its a 1hko. I recommend you stack AGI hard as it helps a ton for colo.

 

 

 

First rule of surviving colo is knowing when to die. Never, I repeat !!!NEVER!!!, run away for the sake of survival. You're wasting your time and a ranger wiz or sorc will get you anyways when they see you rocking that kill me I have 50% hp status. You can ignore them if you're doing something(killing mobs or a person) but if you aren't doing anything stand and fight. If you choose to ignore them pop some potions or your SA to finish up before you die if you think you can make it. Only Master Reds are worth using healing wise and only to top off/last a bit longer like I said. If you're under 4k(5k if you're me with 10k hp >:3) only heal if you have no dots on you and no one looking your way, if anyone is thinking of attacking you lay into them die and get them on res. ALWAYS keep PW up It is almost as important as SF, really don't be fooled I've gotten plenty of kills from PW on people when they ran/stunned me and/or dagger/SA was down

 

Protip: When you die you can click on players to have them targeted when you respawn, if you stand and fight you can easily come back with a vengeance. I don't think anyone has ever killed me twice in a row its an excellent strategy.

 

Next what to look for in your victims. Remember this is only ideal target list, I like to feed tanks my death to get them ranked then come back and finish them of for even better points because people hate attacking them >:3.

 

Protip: go to setting and enable tabing for non party players, it helps some. Remember that if you target someone you can see who they are targeting and can click their portrait to target them too.

 

Kill on Sight(very high priority):

3k hp mobs(attack close for camouflage)

Poring(attack them close and they're corpse will hid you some if you get a debuff)

Tier 1 Swordie/Thief/Archer

Tier 1 Aco/Mage

Tier 2 class at @ 5k~ hp/15k hp Mobs low on health

 

I shouldn't have to explain why you should attack those so I won't really. You can skip the poring but they help in a pinch and 200% attack almost guarantees me 3 player kills from FULL health so it'll help you.

 

Good targets(Fresh/fullhp):

 

15k hp mobs

Wizards(stop if they Ice Block)/Sorc/Ranger/Rogue/Sin(Only target sins with lower health than you or you'll regret it)

Warrior w/o defender(its a red yellow buff) on/BeastMaster in Bear(brown one) form

Anyone who looks like they're lvl 25-35(You'll know, they look like the character on the create a character menu and have around 8k health)

Warning:Even if they look like they're low level check their HP. I've seen a few characters running around in lvl 1 gear at lvl 50. Made me smile.

 

Go for dps if your low lvl, the tanks in the 40's

 

Bad Targets:

Knight/Monk/Warrior w/ defender

Terrible Targets:

Grizzly Beastmaster/Priest

 

They're doable but you'll waste too much time for it to be worth it unless its last 5th round. The last colo I won everyone was attacking God from EarlGrey when she was in first and she was able to keep her HP HIGH!!! If any of us let up she would have won but it was too much and I got her at the last second. Sorc can get that bad but nearly all Priest are just insane damage sponges. Grizzly are insane and normally have around 16k hp they can heal around 5k in a few seconds then curl for 13 then do it again... Not worth it. Knight/Monk/War are doable but dont try and cut you teeth on them they're rough if competent(the suicide then comeback works well early in the match)

 

Things to avoid:

Full Colo Gear(duh)

Colo Weapon on a Tank

Party Buff Stack Tank/Priest/Sorc(unless they're getting ganged up on, help take'm out)

Kafra Buff Stack Tank/Priest/Sorc(unless they're getting ganged up on, help take'm out)(they're the yellow box with arrow)

Any one buffed who looks like they're gear well.

 

For actually killing people, if a fresh kill(full hp) SA if they're hard to catch then  SS>DA>DA>SE Then DA till 5 and wait till they're low enough to kill for DB its around 1k to be safe and for SE its 2.5(if PW is at 1)-3k(if its at 5), the Poison helps at ton. If they run from you immediately throw a dagger then follow but don't use SA until both SS and SE are off cool down. If they run and you SA when I said DA if they have over 4k hp till they get in the right hp then use SE follow it SS if they have over 1k hp or DA if its under(it hits faster for assured kills). If they are at 4k hp or lower SE>SS>DA if they get away Dagger.

 

For KS its tricky if you wanna be slick. You have to get a feel for how fast the other person(s) is(are) damaging them and choose the appropriate skill and time it right. Always try to keep combo points(don't use DB) at max and SE off cool down, don't spam it just cause its up, DA is plenty strong as is. Anyone who says KS'ing isn't skillful is lying, it isn't skill that you found them but timing it correctly is incredibly skillful and difficult to judge and execute.The win I got from killing God I got with a perfectly timed SE, the second hit got her when she had 5-700hp it was amazing. Just pay attention you'll get a feel for it.

 

That about it, any questions?


Edited by 4860130515113635440, 07 July 2013 - 12:33 AM.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:56 AM

Getting to the final round as a sin is pretty easy. I have no doubt you can do it. Like pollenpetal stated, tabbing through people and finding low ones to leap or throw dagger at are very good ways of getting kills. If that doesn't seem to be working and the gods of ks aren't in your favor, you can turn to killing mobs because as a sin, you can drop them very quickly. Aim for the 15k hp mobs if you can and save your Shadow Explosion for the last 3K or so HP and you can pretty much garuntee a kill on a big mob. As for other players id say save your combo points until you can Shadow Explosion and try to hit them at 2k or so, many times it will garuntee you a kill. Poisoning weapon level 5 helps as stated before, but I personally don't have it, even without it you can do fine. Good luck and just due to the nature of colo you have to get a little lucky with the kills :D.

 

No, Shadow Explosion is the worst finisher. it is 2/3 hits, locks you in place, and if you miss/get parried, you can rob yourself of a kill (mob or player). Deadly Blow as a finisher, it's instant, one hit and if it misses, you aren't contributing half way for someone to KS you easier (one part misses or 1/2 parried). You can also cast it whilst moving.

 

Turn on mini hp bars, so you can see what monsters HP are without tabbing.

 

Also Max Shadow Armor it will make you a tanky as hell every 33 seconds for 10 seconds. Once it's off cooldown, it's back up in 23 seconds. 

 

Shadow Assault is an escape tool. Use it on Porings, get lucky and you just healed yourself, or gave you an additional 50% Defense to make potions more effective whilst escaping (higher defense gives more effective health, making it harder for people to kill you). You can also use it to jump on people 20 m away to try to get away from those pesky CC classes like Knight, Warrior, Sorc slows. If you can't use Shadow Assault, throw a dagger at Porings. Or if none is around, throw it at the lowest HP target, hope it procs envenom and you get the kill.

 

If frozen by Sorcs, throw daggers pop shadow armor (I think you can cast it whilst frozen). Think about your next move whilst frozen or knocked down. 


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:05 AM

What? SE is the best. Have you played Monk/Rogue/Ranger? SE's first attack comes out nigh instantly with the second in what .3 seconds? Also if it executes(IE you start the attack) it'll hit them even if they run away/backflip/tele, I even hit a rogue who smoke bombed(though PW may have ticked first).


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:42 AM

Both SE and DB are great skills, just need to learn to judge when its correct to use one or the other (which, no, its not that easy).

 

 

It is true that a SE that's not well used might even give the kill to another person, but its also true that is definitely more damage than DB.

 

 

Something I think its key is to never stop working. I used to have the problem that I was always aiming at people, and sometimes, I spend way too much time tabbing for a good victim (I admit I sometimes I still fall victim to this, and I've regretted it many times). Kill lots of mob. If you aren't targetting anyone, kill the closest weak mob. Kill the 15k hp mobs, they die VERY easy against an Assassin and gives lots of points. Of course, be aware of what the mob you're killing is targeting. If its a squishy class, help the mob kill it (specially if its a 15k hp mob) and then go for the mob. Also, going for a 15k hp mob is a very safe way to make sure you pass to the next round. If you're 7th or 8th in the 4th round, and there's 20 second left aprox, go for a Berserker, its more unlikely that someone KS you, you will definitely kill him before he kills you, and, most importantly, it will be quick. You'll more than likely jump to 6th or better.

 

We're not rogues with smoke bomb, but patience is key. Don't jump too soon or throw the dagger too fast, use your only hiding per round well. Remember its double damage. If you jump on someone squishy, its about 3k damage if it crits (which, as an Assassin, its pretty common).

 

As the guy with the large post said, sometimes its better to die than run, you don't waste time and you even get to save some pots, which even if you're millonaire, its never bad. Of course, if you're targeting someone, heal yourself at least until your victim falls, then you can R.I.P.

 

We don't have bursts like the sorcerer or range like mage class and ranger, but we do very high, quick damage, and we don't have an invisible target sign in our heads because of our class. Not many people like targetting Assassins because of Shadow Armor and because we cut the casting of more people than one can imagine just by running.


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:37 AM

Shadow Assault is a CC and gap closer.  Use it on a poring if you like being stunned as #1 and getting annihilated by the entire arena in the last round.  Shadow Armor maxed is your bread and butter.  Dead DPS is 0 DPS, and won't be making it to champion most likley.  An assassin that does not have Shadow Armor maxed is going to get the floor mopped with them often, regardless of how "uber" they may be.  You are going to get focus fired way more than once very 2 minutes, and that is a promise you can count on.


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