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#1 Brionac

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:22 PM

Title.

Discuss.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:26 PM

How would we know? we havnt played them yet.
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:26 PM

They received weapon and skill damage boosts

So even more than they already were
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:34 PM

How would we know? we havnt played them yet.


Because anyone who has played since the beginning and has been keeping up with changes can easily tell. When I was using Paladin, there's nearly no challenge.
Sword Dance (Which was easily the best skill in the entire game), Impervious (Completely unfair), Revenge, Clock, TAA, Cross Slash, Broom Jab, Block Rate.


They received weapon and skill damage boosts

So even more than they already were



Well, a damage boost and skill nerf was well needed. But without the skill nerfing, that's just dumb.

How big is the damage boost?
Any new broken skills?
Any new broken unnecessary skill upgrades?
How high in the tier list did they bump up to?
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:34 PM

They received weapon and skill damage boosts

So even more than they already were

And a Barricade that casts Cure and level 5 slow heal

And potential 52% block rate.
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:36 PM

And a Barricade that casts Cure and level 5 slow heal

And potential 52% block rate.


^ Lol, okay, so I can take on an army alone?
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:40 PM

^ Lol, okay, so I can take on an army alone?

Yes you can


And I also forgot that dragoon's skills are actually useful. AND KNIGHTS GET THE MOST OP MOVE EVER SPIN IT BEAR AG:KJSFJKFJ:KLJF:JSFKJSA:FAFAFA
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:41 PM

^ Lol, okay, so I can take on an army alone?

I've seen Xandiel in a 5 on 1 match long before they ever buffed pally weapons. They didn't stand a chance.
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:42 PM

What does "Spin It Bear" do? Sounds cute.

I've seen Xandiel in a 5 on 1 match long before they ever buffed pally weapons. They didn't stand a chance.


That's easy, depending on the people, Lol. I meant EW.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 08:03 PM

What does "Spin It Bear" do? Sounds cute.



That's easy, depending on the people, Lol. I meant EW.

I wasn't talking EW. this was PvP. And trust me they were all skilled players and they STILL could not take him down.

Spin it Bear is basically a ground based Sword Storm with higher attack power (130%). Its very useful but dont get too excited its getting nerfed in the future -__-
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 08:06 PM

I wasn't talking EW. this was PvP. And trust me they were all skilled players and they STILL could not take him down.

Spin it Bear is basically a ground based Sword Storm with higher attack power (130%). Its very useful but dont get too excited its getting nerfed in the future -__-


Like you said though paladins were already god tier before the Paris patch so it really doesn't matter.
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 08:08 PM

I also meant PvP. I meant, being more broken, I could take on an army in EW. Dragonica when I was playing was all about spending your cash on gear, so if you upgraded your gear to a certain point, it's pretty much pointless to play against, especially in the case of paladin. I had 2 extremely good PFs and 1 fairly decent PF against me when I was using paladin and they still had trouble keeping me in the air. Also, 5 on 1, just kill 2 people, 'lolwin'.
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 08:10 PM

Like you said though paladins were already god tier before the Paris patch so it really doesn't matter.

And thats one reason I am upset about the Spin it Bear! nerf. It's pointless to do it. They were OP before Spin it Bear!. Reducing the accuracy of it will have ZERO effect in PvP as they did perfectly fine without it. All it does is make it useless in PvE (unless this nerf only effects PvP). It's true that they are very good at PvE now even without Spin it Bear!. But it's just another pointless nerf that has no positive aspect.
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 08:40 PM

Spin it Bear is basically a ground based Sword Storm with higher attack power (130%). Its very useful but dont get too excited its getting nerfed in the future -__-


To be exact, it's a multi-hit summon skill that lasts for a few seconds and launches everything around and within it in nearly every state (everything except fallen on the ground).
And there's nearly no animation (for the character) time when used.

Technically, the only way I think the nerf will help in PvP is if you use it on a character standing on the ground, get the first hit and miss the second, resulting in the character landing on the ground and avoiding the rest of the hits.
Just that the paladin can use storm blade right after Spin It Bear, or Crosscut to lock the character who just fell.

And yes, you can take on an army.
My Dragoon guildmates regularly get 20 - 40 kills with 0 - 4 deaths in level 61 - 70 battle square (15 vs 15 capture the flag PvP), with decent equipment (+5 armour, +10 weapon)

Edited by Slayze, 22 October 2010 - 08:42 PM.

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:59 AM

Yay, all my leaching pays off with broken-ness.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 05:21 PM

Yay, all my leaching pays off with broken-ness.

leeching* We're all going to leech off you now, bigpro Haku.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 06:19 PM

leeching* We're all going to leech off you now, bigpro Haku.


Yesss, it's time to pay up!
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 07:36 PM

You all fail to realize how lazy I am.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 03:51 AM

Paladin in battle square is virtually invincible. It's fun!
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 09:03 AM

If you get on IAH's Dragonica and pvp a paladin, you'll find out. OTL
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Posted 05 November 2010 - 07:16 AM

Yes you can


And I also forgot that dragoon's skills are actually useful. AND KNIGHTS GET THE MOST OP MOVE EVER SPIN IT BEAR AG:KJSFJKFJ:KLJF:JSFKJSA:FAFAFA


Yay for me! I get the bear. I had no idea it was so broke till I went afk at lvl 24, yea, only 24. I just left my guy in the middle of the beach where monsters spawn, being attacked and missed for about 5 minutes. came back, had more than 75% hp. now THATS broke.
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Posted 08 November 2010 - 07:09 AM

Because anyone who has played since the beginning and has been keeping up with changes can easily tell. When I was using Paladin, there's nearly no challenge.
Sword Dance (Which was easily the best skill in the entire game), Impervious (Completely unfair), Revenge, Clock, TAA, Cross Slash, Broom Jab, Block Rate.





Well, a damage boost and skill nerf was well needed. But without the skill nerfing, that's just dumb.

How big is the damage boost?
Any new broken skills?
Any new broken unnecessary skill upgrades?
How high in the tier list did they bump up to?

are u stupid thats not broken thats OP
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Posted 08 November 2010 - 09:47 AM

are u stupid thats not broken thats OP


Sometimes "broken" is used in games to refer to something that is *extremely* OP, and I believe this is such a case.
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