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[xxalucard]

you clearly didnt watch no videos in this thread ..

what video would that be? where all bosses were beat without any resets?

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[ShaIlow]

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ING: Zasamel

Edited by 3844130511081749227, 02 July 2013 - 02:33 AM.

[SonicTMP]

Well "early next week" is almost gone. Kinda like to see the final info for first 5 clears so we can begin bickering over that drama.

[mysticalre]

DAM SRVR DOWN my screenie sucked so I'll upload a friend's too

 

our latest CoA-H run, 0 party wipes entire raid - 8 HyVent & 2 ArtOfWar

http://i.imgur.com/RXtXF0V.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9LEgJcj.jpg

 

when will the AI get fixed?

 

edit: WTF 5 groups didn't even submit coa-hard yet? here's our group then:

members: wakkyz, Ygnizem, Y3H, elfa, Bit, Cornhorse, DAGON5, Phion, Lite129, CheesusChrist

Edited by mysticalre, 11 July 2013 - 09:02 AM.

[Njoror]

We have our Normal Mode groups finished and are putting them together.

 

We haven't received all of the Hard Mode groups yet.

[xxalucard]

We have our Normal Mode groups finished and are putting them together.

 

We haven't received all of the Hard Mode groups yet.

 

With the recent patch....I'd say you're gonna be waiting a long time.

 

For some laughs you should make guilds "that have already completed CoA Hard" fight ratmaster again.  I bet you not a single one of those guilds will beat him unless they find a new way to bug the fight.

 

My 2 cents-- Make these events require video proof that nothing was "exploited through resets," or "bugged to make a boss inactive or take advantage of an inactive boss." 

 

Even in the live streams I saw several examples of exploits such as abusing a boss's reset mechanic.  I haven't seen a single group yet that fought all 3 Culvert Band members at the same time in CoA H, and I don't think I ever will at this rate.  Obviously it was not intended to fight 1 & then run to an out-of-bounds spot to reset the others-- this eliminates the difficulty the fight had to offer.

 

By ignoring/overlooking these forms of exploiting (cheating) to win, especially in an event, you really hurt the desire to try and win any future events legitimately.

 

I'm not saying it's a terrible thing to bug a boss if you feel that the content is too imbalanced to do it the way it was intended (right now, it certainly feels that way).  What I'm saying is that, at least in an EVENT, all cheats/exploits should be banned and no one should be rewarded if they did not legitimately complete the "challenge".

 

If the challenge really is impossible, change the challenge.

Edited by xxalucard, 14 July 2013 - 04:52 AM.

[Chizzmaks]

The problem is not the event itself but the game too many bugged that people will always exploit. It is hard to conduct an event and asking people to be honest or fair. Maybe next time they have an event like they should be fixing the bugged or very clear on the requirements in able to qualify on the event. Btw videos is more accurate on this kind of event rather than asking for pictures!

[3558130505073124957]

I Think the programers had some problems whit fixing the bugs so the did it the other way around like not fixig the bug but let them ther and to make it harder they changet the timers

Side efect is now it will be imposibel to do RMs whit out bugs 

 

I think this game can be officaly categorized as a Bug Bassed Game so called BRPG or something like that

[Frostilina]

Gratz 16 debuffs and bugs.

[Fold]

 

HM down post-patch.

Edited by Fold, 21 July 2013 - 10:47 PM.

[xxalucard]

Looks good.  What happened to Donna?  They just get rid of her now?  lol

[Kalandros]

The fight is just stupid.

 

First of all, Leo and Miki are both killable - I believe its a bug

 

Second of ALL THAT STUFF, Abyss Shadows are an extremely dumb and badly executed mechanic. If they were mobs you'd have to stay away from or something, it'd be sensible. But as it stands, they appear, drain 90% hp off people AT RANGE, all while you're being hit by Ratmaster AND ratmaster's AoE AND maybe a turtle if you time stuff badly

 

Third of all, there is no way to endure the fight to get all 4 turtles - you can kill Ratmaster before the "Invincible stun" effect wears off Raffi.

 

 

The major problem is surviving the last wave of Abyss Shadows

If not for Abyss Shadows, this fight would be possible for more than just the "Top guilds with the most gear and most supplies" (And WoE buff definitely helps x_x )

[5428130503174244767]

The fight is just stupid.

 

First of all, Leo and Miki are both killable - I believe its a bug

 

Second of ALL THAT STUFF, Abyss Shadows are an extremely dumb and badly executed mechanic. If they were mobs you'd have to stay away from or something, it'd be sensible. But as it stands, they appear, drain 90% hp off people AT RANGE, all while you're being hit by Ratmaster AND ratmaster's AoE AND maybe a turtle if you time stuff badly

 

Third of all, there is no way to endure the fight to get all 4 turtles - you can kill Ratmaster before the "Invincible stun" effect wears off Raffi.

 

 

The major problem is surviving the last wave of Abyss Shadows

If not for Abyss Shadows, this fight would be possible for more than just the "Top guilds with the most gear and most supplies" (And WoE buff definitely helps x_x )

+1

[mysticalre]

I started recording some of our guild's raid runs. I also got Rat-N, and a second Rat-H run on my channel. If 5 groups still haven't killed it "legit," here's our submission:

 

Guild: HyVent (9) & UnknownPriest

Members: wakkyz, Ygnizem, Y3H, elfa, Cornhorse, Siglavi, DAGON5, 4u2nv, Lite129, UnknownPriest

 

 

 

Our theory is that when the abyss spawn, BOTH Abyss target one person at the same time.This means that the second abyss will also target 1 person before it registers that person's current HP. As a result, BOTH abyss will do >50% damage to 1 person, and he will seem to have been "1 shotted". That's how we're understanding the Abyss mechanics right now, and only when they spawn, they almost always kill one person (just one, though), before becoming out of sync with each other.

Edited by mysticalre, 31 July 2013 - 12:47 PM.

[elvenne]

Dear WP, when will you distribute rewards for this event?

[Duke1987]

gratz hyvent!

 

you have to be the 2nd guild now, done it legit!

Edited by Duke1987, 31 July 2013 - 06:30 AM.

[Kalandros]

Your video is bugged, doesnt show more than a minute or so of the fight

[mysticalre]

Your video is bugged, doesnt show more than a minute or so of the fight

 

really? It should be 12:58, have you tried to refresh or something? does anyone else have this problem, I'll reupload if more people see the same

Edited by mysticalre, 31 July 2013 - 06:46 AM.

[miton]

Congratulations HyVent! I couldn't imagine doing this fight with pugs and people not on voice chat.

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=lQlzN5k4TJ4 only seems to play the first 2:14 ish for me, but 2_KK3PYiF10 worked fine

Edited by miton, 31 July 2013 - 07:30 AM.

[2501130510102329613]

Gratz, video works fine

[Himekoo]

Grats HyVent! 

[mysticalre]

hi njorororo

 

are we allowed multiple submissions? we did another run with 2 pickups & a couple people with no colo gear LOL #FREEITEMSPLZ

 

Ratmaster-H on farm mode

Edited by mysticalre, 03 August 2013 - 11:57 PM.

[englishtealite]

gimme my loots

[Mardets]

Mad props! This is to prove that if you actually get your asses up and try, instead of going on the forum and cry about every little aspect of this game is too difficult like whimpy kids who cant take a beating, things will happen for you. People need to learn that they need to make things happen for themselves.