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[Lunebeam]

Would it work/be possible?

At level 150

Luck 110
Strength 90
Int 90
Dex 1
Vit 90
Agility 49


Weapon +9 heart breaker with +9% crit rate card

(Crit rate 77 with 110 luck, job 50, and carded +9 heart breaker)

Lower slot cd in mouth
Acessories carded luck gloves (If they can be slotted)
Hat either glory hat, agility + hat or auto cast hat
HBP for increaed crit damage and increaed magic attack.

+10 luck tarnished lamp hat costume
Green Maiden Card on garment for +luck and + crit
Enchanted +luck Meteo Plate Armor

We don't get hind sight or duplex magic. But we already a high attack speed, ignore size damage reduction, big upgrade to melee damage buff, the bad faw skills for extra dps. If the enemy gets stunned from heart breaker or hamerfall we can use cart ram/axe tornado on them while they are in the stun state. Cart ram for single target stunned, axe tornado when 3+ monsters are stunned.

Edited by Lunebeam, 27 June 2013 - 09:33 PM.

[killedbytofu]

yea this is a good mvp build. you can enchant a HF with crit though and put an SS card in it (or the +20% more crit damage card).

for accessories id use either tattoos or if you can afford it ROFL and the other autocast ring. i personally like kobold cards better hten luk cards since you get more crit out of them

[Lunebeam]

How much crit can HF get? Because heart break is like +20 and +1 per upgrade level if I remember right. The added HF damage might not be as good if it misses half the time and the loss of auto hammerfall lvl 2-3, while not that useful is still okay.

I was basing it around HB because it adds such a big bonus to crit chance. (around +30 at upgrade +10 if I remember right and then another +9% for 39+ crit chance at 10+) The higher you upgrade it the lower you can put luck and the higher you can up agility.

Edited by Lunebeam, 28 June 2013 - 09:08 AM.

[kasshin]

You're probably better off spamming HSCR with 90+ agi. Ctrl-click really is more for GX and rangers.

[killedbytofu]

You're probably better off spamming HSCR with 90+ agi. Ctrl-click really is more for GX and rangers.

you seem to be forgetting royal guards and RKs that use this same build for mvping. they all work on the same game mechanics of 'pop speed boost spell, auto hit, auto spell cast'

the only difference is that mechanics have the edge of having damage boosting spells as well, so they succeed a little better at it

[kasshin]

Sorry, but the royal guards and RKs who use this build for MVPing have a fail build.

[killedbytofu]

Sorry, but the royal guards and RKs who use this build for MVPing have a fail build.

i dunno about that. ive seen them destroy mvps like white lady, osiris, and kiel hyre with no problems. you just have to have the gear for it

Edited by killedbytofu, 01 July 2013 - 08:14 AM.

[kasshin]

Those are really easy MVPs and any class can solo them really. It's just that the build is a gimmick and isn't nearly as effective as the mainstream builds. Crit is kind of nice for AGI up or very high flee MVPs, but at that point you really start to question why you aren't using a better class for that MVP with skills that always hit like acid bomb and guillotine fist. Even a GX with CRIT would be more effective.

 

Those builds are only effective (or worth it) in GX and Ranger's case because GX gets EDP which boosts their regular attacks by a LOT, and rangers get auto-warg procs which make most of the damage.

[killedbytofu]

Those are really easy MVPs and any class can solo them really. It's just that the build is a gimmick and isn't nearly as effective as the mainstream builds. Crit is kind of nice for AGI up or very high flee MVPs, but at that point you really start to question why you aren't using a better class for that MVP with skills that always hit like acid bomb and guillotine fist. Even a GX with CRIT would be more effective.

 

Those builds are only effective (or worth it) in GX and Ranger's case because GX gets EDP which boosts their regular attacks by a LOT, and rangers get auto-warg procs which make most of the damage.

 

why dont we all just play rangers and gens then? get rid of all other classes and builds since they arnt as maximum efficient as ranger and gen.  derp   

[kasshin]

All I'm saying is ctrl-click is best left to GXes and rangers, especially if the class has a skill that can be used at ASPD speed (vanishing point, high speed cart ram, and sometimes even rolling cutter). And one advantage over acid bombing gens you can always go with is that you don't blow 50k per attack. Acid Bomb is also bad on low vit targets. But that's all PVM / MVP and you haven't gotten into WoE / PVP yet...