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#1 Poohie

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:00 AM

Hello,

I've read so many posted about priest / hybrid priest / dps priest for quit awhile and I understand well about the job. So I decided to start new char as dps priest. I dun understand is why people are said dps priest is bad.. And they should go fs. Don't get the wrong way here I do enjoy being fs but seriously though dps priest really fun and cool. I also think that if you really going for dps, u should just max Reno is enough for u instead of take abunch of skills from healing tree.

Stop trying to be hybrid cos ur dmg going low. Really max Reno is enough to keep u alive while u are tanking 4 to 5 mobs. ( at least to me even just green gears )
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#2 prismflower

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:04 AM

Hello,

I've read so many posted about priest / hybrid priest / dps priest for quit awhile and I understand well about the job. So I decided to start new char as dps priest. I dun understand is why people are said dps priest is bad.. And they should go fs. Don't get the wrong way here I do enjoy being fs but seriously though dps priest really fun and cool. I also think that if you really going for dps, u should just max Reno is enough for u instead of take abunch of skills from healing tree.

Stop trying to be hybrid cos ur dmg going low. Really max Reno is enough to keep u alive while u are tanking 4 to 5 mobs. ( at least to me even just green gears )


People do not necessarily say DPS Priest is bad, but getting a spot in raids near end-game will be near to impossible, unless you have a higher damage output than Sorcerer or Wizard. Priest is wanted everywhere for its superb healing skills, and this community is too new to accept those experiments lightly.

Renovatio is not nearly enough to keep you alive, even when maxed out, especially at lower levels. Either you are going to spend a lot of HP potions like a DPS class does, or you are going to have to accompany your Renovatio with a few heals. Also, if you completely ignore the healing tree, you will potentially lose out on Colluseo Heal, which is very valuable, even as a DPS Priest (fully heals HP).

And, thirdly, why do you think you are going to have low damage output with a hybrid? Your Magical Power accounts for both your heals and attacks, so as long as you have that alongside a few skill points strategically put into your DPS tree, your damage is going to be good and versatile.
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#3 JustGabe

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 03:05 PM

Renovatio is not nearly enough to keep you alive, even when maxed out, especially at lower levels. Either you are going to spend a lot of HP potions like a DPS class does, or you are going to have to accompany your Renovatio with a few heals. Also, if you completely ignore the healing tree, you will potentially lose out on Colluseo Heal, which is very valuable, even as a DPS Priest (fully heals HP).

 

Huh, actually Renovatio is a hell of a good skill, specially during your Aco leveling, during which a max Reno is more than enough to grind like crazy.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:14 AM

Justgabe was right, Renovatio is actually the best healing skill you can got because you can double other kind of your heals...

 

people going hybrid because they can max the potential on everywhere: field, bosses, coloseum, dungeons, both solo and party-ing. At OP's point of view you maybe just test DPS priests on field and coloseum. Try dungeons, you will cry except on weak dungeons like seagod temple and below...


Edited by Exvee, 02 July 2013 - 04:14 AM.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:25 AM

I accept dps priest, the problem is support priests population is decreasin O.o the same for tanks.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:28 AM

There is nothing wrong with DPS priests. What is wrong is when DPS priests let people die by DPSing at the wrong times.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:31 AM

Renovatio IS going to be enough.... just as long as you never set foot into a dungeon.

If you do take some extra healing skills along though, you'll be able to solo dungeons when you're a few levels over the content. And there are enough skills to do that without gimping your DPS. Going full DPS will increase your damage (you can max all your attack skills and get max archangel), but sacrificing a few points here and there to be a better healer wont make your damage be low compared to a full DPS priest. 

 

DPS priests are quite fun to play, I agree with that, but as it is now unfortunately they're not really a viable alternative to true DPS classes in parties. You'll be okayish at downing adds, but no more than that. Once all your dots are ticking you're doing 42% per 2 seconds, but it takes too long to apply those dots to a group of targets and they'll die too soon if you're not the only one attacking them to get maximum effect. It's more efficient to just start spamming aoe attacks right away and with ME you're going to be about as good as a warrior (the (off) tank). A wizard or even a sorc will easily outdamage you in aoe, rangers will kill single targets almost as fast as you can apply the dots... And on the boss itself, well, you're going to be heavily outclasses by any of the DPS classes, I was just focussing on multi-target scenarios because dps priest fans tend to say that's how priests get more damage in.

 

Unless DPS priests get serious buffs at some point, people just are not going to want you around taking up a position where someone else could have done a lot more damage. Even if you do take some more healing skills and you could help out in a pinch, well, most people will probably prefer a sorc because they do better damage while still being able to perform emergency healing.

 

 

(Right, so I wrote this yesterday, but then the forums went down <_<)

 

 

 

There is nothing wrong with DPS priests. What is wrong is when DPS priests let people die by DPSing at the wrong times.

Actually you're probably thinking of hybrid priests. An actual DPS priest shouldn't be trying to heal in the first place because they wont have enough points invested in the healing tree.

 


Edited by Finraziel, 02 July 2013 - 07:32 AM.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:52 AM

 

Renovatio IS going to be enough.... just as long as you never set foot into a dungeon.

 

 

Actually you're probably thinking of hybrid priests. An actual DPS priest shouldn't be trying to heal in the first place because they wont have enough points invested in the healing tree.

 

 

+1. Just in case someone gets the idea of healing with a DPS build (which can come across many newbie minds).


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#9 Asur

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:41 AM

I hate to tell people what to do, but I highly discourage you to go dps priest. The community isn't accepting of dps priests, and for good reason. Classes that specialize in dps like rogues far outclass dps priests. You will get kicked from dungeon parties, and you will have trouble finding spots in parties or raids. If you like to play with other people, then you will be seriously disappointed with the gaming experience as a dps priest. If you like questing and skip dungeon and raid content, then  by all means play what you like. 

 

Priests are always expected to be focused on healing in parties and raids, so I suggest you go the hybrid route for a good balance between damage and heals. Hybrid priests do well in both pvp and pve.


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:53 AM

Full DPS or Full Support I always thought is silly. I think FS priests should at least have some DoTs. Those DoTs can make a big difference if you keep it up the whole time AND if you don't have them sometimes you're just standing there doing nothing because you just don't have any other skill. FS priests and hybrid sorcs don't work well together as much as a hybrid priest and hybrid sorc. As a DPS priest you'll be great for solo but not so good if you want to get in a party so keep that in mind. You can always go full dps until you hit 50 then get a skill change scroll once you get all your colo gear or whatever.

 

I'm a hybrid that focuses on healing more. My skill build is kinda wonky but it works alright. I was going to be more DPS at first but then when playing dungeons, I realized you don't need those DPS skills as much as you need support or else the party suffers.

 

I find Hybrid Sorcs and Priests really similar. Hybrid priests damage passive with Dots and actively heal. Hybrid Sorcs heal passive and actively damage. I think this works the best against hard bosses. FS priests should play with Wizards so that they can have a super boost to their healing to make up for it.

 

If you are the only priest you'll eventually realize you don't have time to deal damage. But if you're only playing for yourself by all means make a DPS priest. I still think they do a lot more damage than people are willing to admit but I find Hybrid is the way to go imo.


Edited by RavenTDA, 03 July 2013 - 03:55 AM.

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#11 SolidGold

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:52 PM

By all means go ahead and make a DPS Priest, if you enjoy it.

 

But please DO NOT pretend to be a Healer Priest when applying for a spot in raid/ dungeon parties. State up front clearly that you are not able to heal and you are a pure DPS. Especially when it comes to raids, there's competition for Tokens - as a DPS Priest, you are competing against a Tanker Monks, DPS Assasins and Healer Priests X2. 

 

And also DO NOT expect to be treated at par with other Priests with healing abilities. You will just be "another DPS class"


Edited by SolidGold, 04 July 2013 - 01:53 PM.

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#12 ExeltusPendragon

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:47 AM

By all means go ahead and make a DPS Priest, if you enjoy it.

But please DO NOT pretend to be a Healer Priest when applying for a spot in raid/ dungeon parties. State up front clearly that you are not able to heal and you are a pure DPS. Especially when it comes to raids, there's competition for Tokens - as a DPS Priest, you are competing against a Tanker Monks, DPS Assasins and Healer Priests X2.

And also DO NOT expect to be treated at par with other Priests with healing abilities. You will just be "another DPS class"



On the other side of the coin, if I say I'm DPS looking for a group don't invite me thinking I'm going to be able to heal the group outside of the occasional spot heal or Reno :B
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#13 laserna66

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:42 PM

The DPS Priest should not concentrate on AoE or DoT skills.  Doing so will make them fall behind other DPS classes.  They shine as a DPS class when they concentrate on single range attack (Holy Light, Lex, and Ray of Genesis)  INT and AGI are very important, with the goal of critting 3K on HL.  What makes them outstanding as DPS is that Holy Light can be used with Aspersio to GUARANTEE 3 CRITS IN A ROW.  If used in conjunction with Archangel, this has the potential to do 9K damage in just over 2 seconds.  This can be repeated every 20 seconds (minus archangel).  In between, Ray of Genesis fills in for over 5K damage.  That makes this class one of the most powerful DPS classes.  A DPS PRIEST SHOULD NOT BE AOE or DOT DPS!  Damage on the AoE's are too weak to outdo the wizard and the same can be said of their DoT skills.  A DPS Priest's moderate competition is the Ranger, also a ranged single attack class.  However, the ranger can't heal himself and barely keeps up with the dps of a battle priest.


Edited by laserna66, 30 August 2013 - 12:45 PM.

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#14 nogebator

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 03:47 AM

dps classes do much more dps then priest. that only usable at pve farm pandora boxes nothing more.


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Posted 03 September 2013 - 04:46 AM

One day, there was a guild raid that needed a tank so i joined them. We had 3 priests and 1 of them is dps and the dps priest was 2nd on the threat metre. of course he had full colo gear and so did other dps^^ i think if you want to help with healing, use heal instead of renov because you can stack heal with other priests but not with renovatio^^


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#16 Kaori

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 05:29 AM

On the other side of the coin, if I say I'm DPS looking for a group don't invite me thinking I'm going to be able to heal the group outside of the occasional spot heal or Reno :B

 

+1. I'm getting tired of warning people, but because the are almost no healers available, they just say, let's try and see if we can do it.

Sometimes I manage to keep everyone alive but most of the times I don't, because I'm DPS not FS or hybrid!


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Posted 03 September 2013 - 07:23 AM

Hybrid for the win :3


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Posted 10 November 2013 - 04:14 AM

If you want to be able to DPS and heal at the same time then go for a hybrid priest as you'll be good at basically everything. 


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