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#76 Joeydemunnik

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:40 AM

As a monk, is so hard to get BPs X.x really! chasing ppl without snares ... and when you are casting azura, all colo have the time to steal your kill =( and now we will need more BP!!! wtf rangers, sorcs and priest will be more OP with T2! First balance clases and colo, then add new tiers =) or adjust BP cost of T1 for tanks =P

 

Same for BM man, We lack the AOE and ranged attacks, We can really only kill people if they are stunned or not running away... Even then a wiz/sorc/ranger can KS us easely.

 

I also think people with tier2 items should be put into a different arena, For tier 2 people so colo gear-less BM's and Monks can win too..


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:51 AM

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T2 colo gears should cost like this (edited)

its just your imagination xD all t2 will cost BP thats all


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:56 AM

Well, iRO2 can has custom things to attract player so hope that they will do something to balance it...


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 06:00 AM

It'll likely just be straight bp for t2 equip. If they want to appease people that have t1 gears already, the best they can do is add an npc that trades t1 gears for bp.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 06:21 AM

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T2 colo gears should cost like this (edited)

 

That cost is looks pretty atrocious, but I understand what you are trying to do.  Which brings me to another point.  Could anyone here name a NPC that requires multiple currencies to purchase an item?  Cause if there's not then that means the code isn't written for it and WP most likely has no control over that aspect.  The only way to implement that would be to allow Tier1, Victory Trophies, and Winner's Guild tokens to purchase/convert into blood points.

 

yeap and u need:

GoB/Pve Normal first to up it for GoB/Pve H

CoA N to up it for CoA H

and in future same for AoD ??

 

is it work like that in this game ? like i can see NO!!  soo stop talking nonsense >_<

 

Finally, someone that understands how the gear ladder generally works.  A new tier of items superseding the previous and making it worthless besides from looks?  Shocking!

 

 

 

It'll likely just be straight bp for t2 equip. If they want to appease people that have t1 gears already, the best they can do is add an npc that trades t1 gears for bp.

There's enough table banging and loud noises here for WP to react in appeasement I suppose.  What I would like to see is T1 costing 50-75% less or purchasable with Victory Medals.  With the Medals themselves tradable on account.  Makes gearing alts and bringing them up to speed quicker.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 07:38 AM

There's enough table banging and loud noises here for WP to react in appeasement I suppose.  What I would like to see is T1 costing 50-75% less or purchasable with Victory Medals.  With the Medals themselves tradable on account.  Makes gearing alts and bringing them up to speed quicker.

 

I think they should just make the T1 cost 50-75% less when T2 is introduced. Making them purchasable with Victory medals seems like a bad idea, considering some classes get the short end of the stick when it comes to winning colo. Even if the medals themselves become tradeable, not everyone has a Ranger/Sorc/Priest alt to pass victory medals to their Monk/BM.

 

However, something needs to be done in order to make the T1 gear appealing when T2 is released. If the bloodpoint cost remains the same, then there would be absolutely zero incentive from a new players perspective to get the T1. If the T1 costs are reduced by a large margin (50-75%) then the T1 could serve as a stepping stone for those new players, and those unfortunate classes that have a hard time gearing up in colo.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 08:01 AM

I was considering both options being reasonable.  Lower blood point cost will help new players and alts.  Victory Medal avenue gives longer time players an fast option to gear their alts.  If T1 remains the same price and T2 is 30% most expensive then there is little incentive to use T1 as a stepping stone.  I'm more concerned in whether a bloodpoint wipe is being considered or not, or possibly a cap on bloodpoints.  Though I'm not sure whether or not they see it as a problem for players to amass large quantities of BP and buy the entire T2 set on day one.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 11:06 AM

Well, iRO2 can has custom things to attract player so hope that they will do something to balance it...

 

Easier to copy&paste from SEA... So no, it wont happen.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 03:41 PM

 Could anyone here name a NPC that requires multiple currencies to purchase an item?  Cause if there's not then that means the code isn't written for it and WP most likely has no control over that aspect. 

I do recall event NPCs in seaRO2 and kRO2 that do take multiple currencies. Like the CNY event where you have to trade in rice+beans+something else(?) and ones where you assemble short phrases ( [R] [O] [ II ] )


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 09:17 AM

I just hope they only add the pvp bonus on the tier2,otherwise it kills the purpose of raid completely.


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 12:44 PM

Raiding is already almost pointless with Colo gears. CoA set bonus is nice, and atm right now works well with Baby Devil horn's and wings, about it. Unless I forget something.


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 01:36 PM

I just hope they only add the pvp bonus on the tier2,otherwise it kills the purpose of raid completely.

 

You raid for cards, rare recipes and to have fun. Honestly, I just do colo instead.

 

Sad thing is, you actually need colo gear to perform well at CoA.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:47 PM

I'm going to see if we can get more information for everyone on the upcoming 2nd tier pvp items and the Guild Battle skills.

 

Small bump, still wanting to see if Njoror gets some official information for us.


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 02:54 AM

That cost is looks pretty atrocious, but I understand what you are trying to do.  Which brings me to another point.  Could anyone here name a NPC that requires multiple currencies to purchase an item?  Cause if there's not then that means the code isn't written for it and WP most likely has no control over that aspect.  The only way to implement that would be to allow Tier1, Victory Trophies, and Winner's Guild tokens to purchase/convert into blood points.

 

That's very basic coding, and warpportal, who is owned by gravity could implement it within seconds. Multiple currencies aren't like a difficult thing to write. in psuedocode all you're writting is that it will cost this and this. So it will check if A is met, if true check if B is met, if true then item purchased.


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 07:39 AM

It'll likely just be straight bp for t2 equip. If they want to appease people that have t1 gears already, the best they can do is add an npc that trades t1 gears for bp.

 

ppl who already got t1 gained the profit from it

 

now you want to have advantage before people who here came recently? not tooooo fat ?

 

at present and those who plays long ago and those who only began have equal conditions for acquisition t2 set, and to tell the truth it is much easier for those at whom already has t1

 

so stfu plz about all *omg i wana trade my t1 for t2 for free*, *omg i wana back my bp* , look at other games at last where a new Tier do previous useless and no 1 cry about this... only lemmings of Ro2 think that they the cleverest on the earth
 


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 08:44 AM

ppl who already got t1 gained the profit from it

 

Uh.. people who got full colo quite fast have had all the time in the world to farm BP too. They'll have tons saved up for tier 2 while some of us can't even spend on tier 1 for fear of it getting outclassed in the coming month.


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 09:05 AM

Uh.. people who got full colo quite fast have had all the time in the world to farm BP too. They'll have tons saved up for tier 2 while some of us can't even spend on tier 1 for fear of it getting outclassed in the coming month.

 

I know it and therefore it is difficult to me to understand why some one with t1 crying here about that as life is difficult and unfair to them.


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 09:27 AM

 

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If you're still watching this thread, can you tell us the combined total BP cost of tier 2 in kRO? AFAIK tier 1 is somewhere around 2.1m, so I'm hazarding a guess at around 3m?


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 09:40 AM

3.65 million blood-points in the KRO2 version. Not sure if they would be changed if it comes here though. 


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 10:40 AM

t1  - 2,4m (with acces 3m)

it seems like u need +150-200bp more on each peace of armor

 

Shouichirou Victory Medals still useless even on kRO ?


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 11:13 AM

For the most part, yes.


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 12:08 PM

Wizard:

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ranger:

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crecentia:

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btw. some it is is english because i'm using the english translation pack


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 12:14 PM

Still no news from njoror, huh? Guess his silence is pretty much the answer. 

And wtf is up with Ranger weapon?? 900k plus 170k quiver???

I'm assuming that's the case for Knights too??

Wow is that a fake screenshot or the devs are just fukcing stupid?

 

PS:

Crecentia's T1 pants is cheaper? Errr why?


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 01:44 PM

WHY COLO EQUIPS PPL ARE FREAKING OUT HERE? ITS NOT THE FAULT OF PLAYERS WHO DON'T HAVE COMPLETE COLO GEARS IF IT WILL NOT BE PREREQUISITE  FOR THIS TIER 2. WHY MAKE THEM SUFFER HERE? JUST ASKING...  :ok:


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 02:10 PM

Still no news from njoror, huh? Guess his silence is pretty much the answer. 

And wtf is up with Ranger weapon?? 900k plus 170k quiver???

I'm assuming that's the case for Knights too??

Wow is that a fake screenshot or the devs are just fukcing stupid?

 

PS:

Crecentia's T1 pants is cheaper? Errr why?

 

Helmet is also cheaper in t1 crescentia as well as boots. My guess would be noel came out later, and since people were getting a late start on the character they compensated the colo gears prices so they could catch up. Also for some reason the gloves are 200 BP more.


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