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#1 minigod321

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 07:15 AM

I have a 89 biochemist and a 97 filir atm, I really need enlightenment, plz help me   :D

 

1- Should I skip the 4th skill to mutating my homun after I become genetic?

2- Does filir and sera make a good combine? (sorry I don't really trust wiki.)

3- What should I do to gain zeny after become geneticist, I wanna buy em because botters made me feel so stressful to farm those cards


Edited by minigod321, 20 July 2013 - 07:18 AM.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 08:15 AM

1. Get it if you're going Eira because she can farm the intimacy back easily, otherwise you can skip it because you'll almost never use it.

2. Filir -> Sera will have the lowest VIT out of all the homunculi combinations (as far as I know), but at least Sera has handy skills like Painkiller while Filir has good offensive skills too so it's still a nice combination.

3. Farm etc items instead? Maneaters, stems, poisons spores + karvodailnirols, etc. At least with those you can have a steady but sure progress, unlike card farming when you may never get one. There's also the buying low and selling high, though that's a bit more advanced for merchanting. Also be sure to do the Gramps turn-in quests for the badges which you can exchange for reset stones and stuff.
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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:33 AM

1) Not even worth it if going Eira imo. Even when loyalty is farmable, the skill doesn't do enough damage to justify it. It's not like genetics lack the ability to do high single target damage. 

 

2. It's a good combo, Sera is really nice in PVM, but keep an eye on vit, sometimes they don't get stat immunity. But of course, you don't find that out until level 14x so there's not much you can do about it by then. Ami -> Sera is better end-game (where the thing you care about is what the homun can do to make you stronger)

 

3. Kill MVPs and other monsters with valuable drops. Once you get PK, you can hunt normal monsters without using significant amounts of pots. 


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 03:29 PM

thx guys, neat and great info   :D

 

 

4- Will all my homunculus's skills points be remove after it mutating to S?? I still have 17 sp left

 

@DrAzzy: what is PK?


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 09:38 PM

PK = Painkiller


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 10:27 PM

thx guys, neat and great info   :D

 

 

4- Will all my homunculus's skills points be remove after it mutating to S?? I still have 17 sp left

 

@DrAzzy: what is PK?

Nope, skill points stay. But homun S skills become available based on base level (but you have skill points so you can max each one as it becomes available) 

 

PK is painkiller. It's a sera skill, that it can use on players, including you. Just like painkillers in the real world, it makes you feel damned near immortal. Unlike the real world, you actually are. It's like, a flat ~900 damage reduction, subtracted from damage after just about every other modifier. It's just insane, it's wonderful. Take 1's on the TI maps, solo malangdo culverts using only half a dozen white raffle saps for hp regen. Stuff like that is all possible with painkiller! Of course, it destroys your attack speed, but who cares about aspd on a genetic anyway?


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:13 PM

Aw that is so awsome :heh:

 

 

I just found out that free reset has been remove :omg: , I  planned to use agi build for easy lvling then reset for cannon after reach geneticist, now I must work hard for 3-4 reset stones (I stop playing iRO before they remove it - how unlucky :wah: )

 

thx you so much, but it won't stop here, may be someday I will be back with more questions ( I'm a big fan of summon classes  :kis:)


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 11:56 PM

Sorry to hijack your thread. I have similar question.. How about Amistr, does the 4th skill worth the wait? Thanks :p_smile:


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 01:11 AM

Yes.


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#10 DrAzzy

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:51 AM

Sorry to hijack your thread. I have similar question.. How about Amistr, does the 4th skill worth the wait? Thanks :p_smile:

Very much so, you gotta get bloodlust. It's the best of the final skills, I think. 


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:13 AM

just got a bit bored so I bump this thread again with few questions :)

 

1. How long does it took to max level a homunculus S (from 100)

 

2. I heard Kro has raised level cap to 175, is there any update for homunculus S to catch this level cap? (new lvling spot, raise lvl, new skills.....???)

 

3. Will homunculus be balance? (something like lif....)

 

4. How to disable filir's auto buff but still allow it use moonlight?

 

5. How to allow homunculus attack a monster that attacking another person? (I was set "always kill steal" but it doesn't work - I made another alchemy to afk with my geneticist)

 

 

 


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 11:21 AM

1. What kind of homun S, and is it being AFK leveled or actively leveled?

 

2. As far as I know, there has been no change to the homunculus leveling system or cap. 

 

3. Huh?

 

4. Consult the documentation for the AI you are using - this is generally provided as a configuration option. ( If using AzzyAI, it's UseOffensiveBuff and UseDefensiveBuff for pre-S homun skills. )

 

5. Consult the documentation for the AI you are using. Most AI's have a feature to "friend" another player - this has to be done in a different way than adding people to your ingame friend list, since the AI can't read the in-game friend-list. (If using AzzyAI, you move the homun 1 cell directly north or west of another player, and it will do a little dance around them to indicate that they were removed or added) Some AI's also have ways to enable kill-stealing either globally or for specific monsters. (If using AzzyAI AzzyAI this can be set on the tactics screen; if you have tactics defined for the specific monsters you're fighting, you need to set it there, not just in default tactic. )


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:54 PM

Thx Azzy again for reply  :thx:

 

1. Filir - Sera + afk (my sera already 105 with 40%, it is so painful to see her next skill stay at level 116 and it took me 1 day to gain 50-60%.)

 

2. How sad, i'm a big fan of summoner  :sob:, Y gravity, U NO love summon?

 

3. Aren't most ppls out there say lif is the most useless homunculus ???

 

4.5. Thx I will try it  :heh:


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:35 PM

Yes, of course, lif is useless. But what was the question?


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 08:36 PM

Never mind, I was hope they will revamp homunculus to give them their own advantages (lif with aco heal, filir with best atk speed...) but that won't be happen (look like i must wait for more than 2 years to see something new.)

 

I was expect too much  :p_sad: , the reason I pick geneticist is just because of those homunculus (the only real summon) and I pick sera just because I can summon while summoning :heh:

 

nothing to do *fly away*

 

 

 


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 08:42 PM

Once sera gets mist, it's the fastest leveling homun S in OD2. 


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 01:38 AM

Once sera gets mist, it's the fastest leveling homun S in OD2. 

 

Is it? I thought dieter the fastest lvling homun S in OD2, because its AOE skill, lava slide kill all the monster but for sera, poison mist wont give any damage to orc skeleton. Also, the aoe of lava slide seems larger than poison mist although in irowiki both stated have max of 7x7 cell area effect,.. By the way, how to configure the homun to always cast poison mist after it wear off?


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 07:03 AM

Lava Slide sprite looks bigger than it's AoE, they're the same size.

 

Lava slide is limited to 5 hits (and 1 hit that damages 5+ monsters instantly ends it). 

 

With mist, you have it cast mist on owner location, and stand in a busy place, and set homun to only attack archers and skeletons. The mist aggros and kills all the passing monsters except orc skels, so you capture all the monsters that run past. And it stays up for the full duration, no matter how many things it hits.

 

I've run dieter and sera at the same time in OD2, and sera consistently beat dieter. Dieter is faster if actively leveled, but who does that?!


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