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[mistergohan]

So I'm leveling a rogue and everytime I try to Sightless Mind a mob, they instantly rip me out of Hiding before i can get a cast off. I can only seem to pretty much get an opener in and then I'm permanently stuck out of hiding due to monster hits. Is there a way to prevent this or is it just a game bug thats unavoidable? And btw im not referring to demon or other types that can see through invisibility. Just regular mobs hitting me. Its making leveling extremely difficult because i cant mob train unless i coral the monsters in a circle and they never get near me.

 

Also can someone please tell my why Snatch even exists if its disabled on pvp maps (it seems like such a strong pvp move for taking people away from their pocket healers or vice versa)? The only possible use i can see for it now is to KS someone =/

[DrAzzy]

Well it didn't used to be disabled in PVP! 

 

They did that a long time ago. 

 

Yeah, it's for KSing, spawn manipulation (moving zone spawns far from their zone to make it easy to farm the desirable monsters. This is only relevant on classic though, sadly. That's something I miss about RO, how you would set up maps for leveling with snatch and hunting around for missing monsters), pulling a desirable monster out of a mob tht's too big for you, and as a flywing when you're out. IIRC it was kinda OP in PVP. 

 

At least it actually does something, unlike piece/remover which have no function, yet are prereqs. 

 

And yeah, sightless mind is not the most effective skill. Plagerize bowling bash. 

Edited by DrAzzy, 01 September 2013 - 11:39 PM.

[YangeWenli]

HI!I have been lvling my stalker and came to tell you a good trick!If you noticed sightless mind has a bit of range on it!I suggest you learn this range on single mob so that you can keep on killing!GL

[kijanta]

Yeah, Sightless Mind can be annoying - but without Preserve, it's the only really constant AoE a Rogue has. And it stuns. Sometimes.

 

My Rogue (class) has always been based on agi, this really helps avoiding hits, even with mobs. However, slowly increase the number of monsters per mob to see how much you can take without being constantly pulled out of hiding. I actually came to like Sightless Mind and use it quite often as AoE, leaves place for other Intimidate / Reproduce stuff With some high-hit mobs it just won't work effectively, though.

[azumak1]

spawn manipulation (moving zone spawns far from their zone to make it easy to farm the desirable monsters. This is only relevant on classic though, sadly. That's something I miss about RO, how you would set up maps for leveling with snatch and hunting around for missing monsters)

 

Whoa, you just nostalgia bombed me! I totally forgot the original use of the Rogue that I made (which is now SC) and that was to Snatch out other monsters in the bottom right quadrant of the Dark Frames map! I also miss using Mental Sensing there... lol. xD

[mistergohan]

Damn that just sucks then. That same bug has been plaguing the Rogues on World of Warcraft since forever (being ripped out of stealth because the server doesnt calculate the hit until AFTER you go invisible). I guess us poor Rogue RPG players just cant get a break  

 

If they would fix that then Sightless Mind would be a pretty amazing skill to level with. As it is, its not bad, but not great. I have learned to keep my distance, but some mobs just move too fast to run from. 

 

 

 

 Plagerize bowling bash. 

 

Would that still be effective on an INT/DEX build rogue though? My stalker currently has 1str 80dex

Edited by mistergohan, 02 September 2013 - 05:57 AM.

[jake0619]

i think you can use bowling bash with a bow

[IsisThump]

 Would that still be effective on an INT/DEX build rogue though? My stalker currently has 1str 80dex

Yeah you can use an Orc Archer Bow with steel arrows. And if there are mobs that are the same element, try to get an endow or mild wind. I leveled my bow rogue with BB, and it was pretty simple and fun ^_^

[mistergohan]

So since Snatch is disabled, is it safe to assume that they've also disabled Dimension Door and Fatal Menace as well on Shadow Chasers? They sounded like fun spells but I'm not even gonna bother getting them if they're unusable =/

 

 

 

Yeah you can use an Orc Archer Bow with steel arrows. And if there are mobs that are the same element, try to get an endow or mild wind. I leveled my bow rogue with BB, and it was pretty simple and fun ^_^

 

Oh I just meant that wouldn't the damage be low since I have no STR

[IsisThump]

Oh I just meant that wouldn't the damage be low since I have no STR

Bow/Instrument damage is affected by Dex not Str.

[DrAzzy]

But you can't bowling bash with OAB + Steel arrow (well, not if you want sexy damage numbers). Steel arrow + OAB is +50% ranged damage, and BB isn't ranged....

[IsisThump]

But you can't bowling bash with OAB + Steel arrow (well, not if you want sexy damage numbers). Steel arrow + OAB is +50% ranged damage, and BB isn't ranged....

Oh yeah o_o. Well I just had a brain fart lmao. Thanks for the info though!

 

Well if you still want to use BB with a bow, I guess you can use a stronger bow like a Rudra or even an Eden Bow III since these two have more attack than an OAB. And I believe that Rudra bows can be enchanted, so that can be useful too. And use elemental arrows or an arrow with the highest attack (Oridecon?)+ an endow? Leveling with an OAB+Steel Arrow was still efficient for me lol, but it sucks cause I could have had better damage

Edited by IsisThump, 02 September 2013 - 08:42 AM.