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#51 AppleEater

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:07 PM

remember all of the low dmg hits in between the strong ones? they're still there, but they're strong hits now

someone already said that somewhere in this thread but its just the last hit that used to do less dmg but w.e
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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:14 PM

no QQs here(o and also as far as iv seen u jumped on the harle QQ bandwagon aka this thread)
have you ever realy played a WM without skill cancel?
who the hell standas vurnrable for 3-4 seconds cast time?
thats right no1 EXCEPT WMS~
every class has instant attacks except WMs
and PLEASE if you think that backdraft is instant as every1 elses skills let me correct u
says instant 1.5sec actual cast time and 1.x sec for the flame to go out (almost 3 seconds now~)
ntm -_-y and very specific range of hit(u get used 2 it though)
the only usable "instant" WM skill.
other classes just stand there.
ok
seriously
i cant take your seriously anymore are you trolling?
i just cant see someone being serious with this statements i realy dont.

My god, If you think your job is bad try a myrm/glad level 40 or lower w/o stuns.
You will actually have a reason to QQ :)

Anyway Bandits did get nerfed too hard.

Edited by MeloMew, 28 October 2010 - 06:15 PM.

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#53 AppleEater

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:19 PM

My god, If you think your job is bad try a myrm/glad level 40 or lower w/o stuns.
You will actually have a reason to QQ :)

Anyway Bandits did get nerfed too hard.

Thank you
btw Myms lvl 40 and lower still does tons of dmg even if it seems like its little
the bros do alot of dmg like one of the bros (forgot name) hits 8 times or something like that and times that by like 400 dmgs each hit is 3.2k dmg in total with a short cooldown
just something to think about :D
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#54 MeloMew

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:22 PM

Thank you
btw Myms lvl 40 and lower still does tons of dmg even if it seems like its little
the bros do alot of dmg like one of the bros (forgot name) hits 8 times or something like that and times that by like 400 dmgs each hit is 3.2k dmg in total with a short cooldown
just something to think about :)

But really He could be worse off than he already is they could Decide to lower the damage of all there skills by 20% and justify it being "They where too strong".

But yah Bro skills are good depending on who your facing. Pali with a little stacked hlt > Myrm
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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:25 PM

and man i love jester cant believe they nerf it... hope they switch it back somewhere in the future.....
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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:42 PM

But really He could be worse off than he already is they could Decide to lower the damage of all there skills by 20% and justify it being "They where too strong".

But yah Bro skills are good depending on who your facing. Pali with a little stacked hlt > Myrm

Nowadays there really isn't any point in fighting pallys because they can just sit there with revenge on the whole fight and you will die before them from the dmg reflecting back to you...
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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:47 PM

Nowadays there really isn't any point in fighting pallys because they can just sit there with revenge on the whole fight and you will die before them from the dmg reflecting back to you...

Ikr Played a Bandit in phase one and with that skill on I just killed my self >.>
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 01:01 AM

Harlies FD you stand there for like 1.5 secs where you can get frozen stuned and many stuff basically all of Harlies atks have cast animation so no Harlies don't have Instant cast stuff...


Typo man i fixed


all of harels skills are insta damage dealers
u get close u cast and u hit there is absulutly no cast time for FD US and windmill

u cant stop ranting. we get it u have issues, u shud relax just a game

im not ranting.
he started an argument and he cant finish it while iirc u were siding the wm side
i have no issues it was purly an argument.

Thank you for stating what everyone wants
He's just selfish and wants WMs to be OP over other classes
(not saying other classes like Warriors aren't OP)

i laugh inside reading ur posts apple i realy do.
i dont want WM to be OP and again with personal attacks? realy?
your a bad troll and you should quit it.

My god, If you think your job is bad try a myrm/glad level 40 or lower w/o stuns.
You will actually have a reason to QQ :)

Anyway Bandits did get nerfed too hard.


never said my job was BAD i just said it was a major nerf which changed the playstyle almost completly
SD isnt stun?
bears dont stun?(fliniching is a way to stun)
i havnt played glads much but the damage boost they got should make the users happy not QQ

Thank you
btw Myms lvl 40 and lower still does tons of dmg even if it seems like its little
the bros do alot of dmg like one of the bros (forgot name) hits 8 times or something like that and times that by like 400 dmgs each hit is 3.2k dmg in total with a short cooldown
just something to think about :D

"thank you"
realy?

But really He could be worse off than he already is they could Decide to lower the damage of all there skills by 20% and justify it being "They where too strong".

But yah Bro skills are good depending on who your facing. Pali with a little stacked hlt > Myrm

eh... FYI WM skills are not overpowered by damage
the combo locking overall consists of 4-5 skills which only then can finish the job(somtimes it dont)
check the % urself considering to other classes WM DPH is rather low
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 05:37 AM

all of harels skills are insta damage dealers
u get close u cast and u hit there is absulutly no cast time for FD US and windmill


im not ranting.
he started an argument and he cant finish it while iirc u were siding the wm side
i have no issues it was purly an argument.


i laugh inside reading ur posts apple i realy do.
i dont want WM to be OP and again with personal attacks? realy?
your a bad troll and you should quit it.


never said my job was BAD i just said it was a major nerf which changed the playstyle almost completly
SD isnt stun?
bears dont stun?(fliniching is a way to stun)
i havnt played glads much but the damage boost they got should make the users happy not QQ


"thank you"
realy?


eh... FYI WM skills are not overpowered by damage
the combo locking overall consists of 4-5 skills which only then can finish the job(somtimes it dont)
check the % urself considering to other classes WM DPH is rather low

are u dont yet? dood u sound like its the end of the world just cuz wm need aim and a few non cancel so what.. other classes need aim and not many classes can cancel things anyway so stop whining like a little kid.. get a life man stop raging i mean cmon just relax already

Edited by sumbody, 29 October 2010 - 05:47 AM.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 05:52 AM

are u dont yet? dood u sound like its the end of the world just cuz wm need aim and a few non cancel so what.. other classes need aim and not many classes can cancel things anyway so stop whining like a little kid.. get a life man stop raging i mean cmon just relax already

are you a bad troll or cant you read?
im not raging im stating facts.
im not bitching im comparing harle and wm nerfs while arguing.
i am relaxed you obviously didnt understand my tone nor my arguments with that post u just made
seriously if you cant contribute to the thread just be quiet
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 06:07 AM

are u dont yet? dood u sound like its the end of the world just cuz wm need aim and a few non cancel so what.. other classes need aim and not many classes can cancel things anyway so stop whining like a little kid.. get a life man stop raging i mean cmon just relax already

LOL AT LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. Really though trying to cast a spell and be a sitting duck while you cast. In PvP its about movement standing just gets you punished. Since they need aim now I could see whyd they complain because since this game was made aim was something they NEVER needed. That is understandable. As for canceling all the classes do it with w/e skills they do.
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#62 Confusion

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 01:49 PM

are you a bad troll or cant you read?
im not raging im stating facts.
im not bitching im comparing harle and wm nerfs while arguing.
i am relaxed you obviously didnt understand my tone nor my arguments with that post u just made
seriously if you cant contribute to the thread just be quiet

sorry man, now the thread isn't only for harly "nerfs" so i got no prob with that(you talking about WM nerfs). i think it's your tone or something, try arguing in smaller posts.i still think that harly was downgraded the most though, and still you have to consider that trickster only have 3 attacks! and they require us being surrounded for full potential.

Edited by Confusion, 29 October 2010 - 01:50 PM.

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#63 AppleEater

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 01:51 PM

are you a bad troll or cant you read?
im not raging im stating facts.
im not bitching im comparing harle and wm nerfs while arguing.
i am relaxed you obviously didnt understand my tone nor my arguments with that post u just made
seriously if you cant contribute to the thread just be quiet

your stating a fact?
do you know what a fact is?
you just gave your opinion that WM nerfed more than harlies, so thats suppose to be a fact?
you need to work on your english more
btw calling me a troll really?
you don't even know what a troll is I just stated that WMs wasn't only class that got nerfed hard and you came back at me with your opinions

Edited by AppleEater, 29 October 2010 - 01:53 PM.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 01:56 PM

Harlequins got ridiculously nerfed. They lost their Aerial Kick, Burrow and FD doesn't hit ground monsters anymore.
And now that WMs got one nerf, you started to QQ. It's kinda ironic, don't you think?
Get over it, it's a game. If you don't like it, play another class/game.

Edited by Hawly, 29 October 2010 - 01:57 PM.

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#65 Confusion

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:04 PM

Harlequins got ridiculously nerfed. They lost their Aerial Kick, Burrow and FD doesn't hit ground monsters anymore.
And now that WMs got one nerf, you started to QQ. It's kinda ironic, don't you think?
Get over it, it's a game. If you don't like it, play another class/game.

i never had arieal kick but was and still plan to get it, what happened to it?
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:12 PM

i never had arieal kick but was and still plan to get it, what happened to it?

It used to hit 8 to 10 times, now it only hits 2-3.
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:16 PM

It used to hit 8 to 10 times, now it only hits 2-3.

?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????




BU SHLACKA!!!!!!
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:23 PM

?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????




BU SHLACKA!!!!!!

Yeah, it was Harlequin's move for killing bosses/finishing combos.
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#69 Confusion

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:26 PM

Yeah, it was Harlequin's move for killing bosses/finishing combos.

okay now the harly downgrade is just ridiculous!
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:36 PM

okay now the harly downgrade is just ridiculous!

Yes. And there's still people who are complaining about WM's nerfs.
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:42 PM

Yes. And there's still people who are complaining about WM's nerfs.

oh i feel so much weaker now, and are they really gonna downgrade crazy soul already? didn't i just come out?!

is there still a ch 1 version of the game somewhere?
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Posted 30 October 2010 - 01:36 AM

your stating a fact?
do you know what a fact is?
you just gave your opinion that WM nerfed more than harlies, so thats suppose to be a fact?

btw calling me a troll really?
you don't even know what a troll is I just stated that WMs wasn't only class that got nerfed hard and you came back at me with your opinions

facts i stated:
WMs have the lowest agi/aim therefore its triple harder to stack them
did i ever say more? please quote me me on that 1 all i said WMs got nerfed as bad and maybe worse.
"you need to work on your english more" <realy? check yours then check others
also seriously people who point out grammar errors in arguments just stink of desperation
a troll is a person that uses sarcasam and generaly idiotic remarks to anger another person or just squeeze an enraged comment from them for their own laughs , your comments were filled with personal insults so yes your a bad troll
i say bad because you cant even do it right.

btw~ did u even realise that that certain post wasnt even directed at you?
im losing interest in even looking at your posts now i realy do.

Harlequins got ridiculously nerfed. They lost their Aerial Kick, Burrow and FD doesn't hit ground monsters anymore.
And now that WMs got one nerf, you started to QQ. It's kinda ironic, don't you think?
Get over it, it's a game. If you don't like it, play another class/game.

you know about a year back i remmeber people raging against harels that once they locked you there was no escape and you wouldve died
they had semi good survival skills and epic run away skills(burrow and moonwalk)not to mention a ranged stuners and high base evade
1st its 2 nerfs aim and cancel animation
2nd its not the numbers of nerfs its the severity of them and as i said earlier if youd bother reading both are a kick in the nuts
for veteran WMs and again im not QQing read my other posts or just the whole thread im just making a livley argument.

newsflash~
btw did i ever mention WMs seemingly have the lowest HP aswell?
73 HLT as base stat at lvl 53 (when i stack quite a few HLT items i manage to get 24k HP in pvp)
my 44 PF in gpotato has 25k.

i rest my case

edit~: forgot to add this.

a 3 levels lower harel dealing and winning a stacked pala that heals
yeah you guys totaly get the end of stick eh?
i mean killing palas is SO easy every1 can do it.
/sarcasam

Edited by wardrive, 30 October 2010 - 02:07 AM.

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