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#51 saoLian

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 08:43 PM

So, if the better way to fix this problem is returning the castle over to the guild that held it before... Why Galajuan didnt get the castle back after the "surprise woe"?

 

 

Cause Galajuan in the previous WoE before the surprise one used a gate glitch to take the castle without killing the doors. Invalidating their win as well.

 

 

that suprise WOE was due to the gate glitching that makes Galajuan's right to hold the castle invalid.. so yeah 

becoz of door glitch,, the gm claimed the castle...
the previous owner of the castle that time was Aesir, make me think of this question, why is it that wp didnt give it back to aesir that time?..
and now, that some weird stuff happened again, they easily returned it to exodus? .. i'm wondering..


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 11:45 AM

these commentary was made by one of my friend: but iwasn't able to comment it since the tpic was locked:
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The truth is, LAST woe , COLLISION and Exodus were only few participated in woe, compare to Æsir they were really out of numbered. The situation was like that, 
Given this fact, I hypothesized another side of the story.. or should i say, it's not my hypothesis but the hypothesis of some in the community.... This is the rumor roaming around, unspoken, but can be true... :

Those lizards can be from defending guild, knowing the fact that they can lost the castle. It is a good and wise strategy that they summoned it , or let someone w/ hide(another guild atleast lvl 10) and MADE IT LOOK LIKE THEY WERE DEFEATED NOT BY ÆSIR BUT BY LIZARDS.(but personally i was there hiding and i can say that even w/o those lizards Æsir did a great job combating) Since they know how to play the rules, They can report to GM'S and say "Someone did hack and let the castle be back to it's previous owner------ Exodus " W/ this strategy they can accomplish two things :
a) Destroy the image of the one who get the castle, accused them of hacking etc.. destroy their credibility.
b)Secure the ownership of the castle.

If the WP can't prove that those lizards come from Æsir, and still stand on their decision to give the castle back to Exodus. I do understand why Æsir feels that way. They got a number,they were prepared and did a good job last woe. Yes, there were lizards roaming around (we don't know if it was set up or not) but the fact was, they dominated last woe.Not becoz of lizards , but becoz of numbers.

Last thing i want to point out is:

Back in history of woe here ,and i read another comment about this,
Back then, Galajuan got the castle 
Issue : Glitch Door Issue 
Solution : Reclaim the castle and reset it

Next scenario :Exodus had the castle and was passing it to Collision. Collision succesfully recieved the castle 
Issue: Unknown hacking buff (that was proven that can be put in a player unintentionally or not)
Solution :A maintenace fixing it. BUT STILL ALLOWING COLLISION ON HAVING THE RIGHT IN THE CASTLE EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS ISSUE OR IRREGULARITIES.

Should it be proper if they also reset the castle?Is it fair enough to say that they are allied that's why its ok?.It cant be! Becoz as far as i know in WOE rules in Ragnarok II, there were no thing called alliance, this alliance is just an agreement between guild to guild BUT NOT OFFICIAL.

Last Scenario: Exodus was passing the castle to collision ,BUT WAS FAILED Æsir got it..
Issue: Lizard summoning randomly
Solutuion : Get the castle back and give it to the previous owner.

C'mon Rules are rules, You cant change it the way you like it..IF u cant follow your own rules with regards to this matter, dont expect others to follow you..Be professional enough and learn to value equality.
so there are two options to prove this:
a) the solution u did in galajuan case
B) the solution u did in 2nd scenario , let Æsir have the castle but fix this hack..


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 01:41 PM

Currently is supposed to be an investigation... So, wheres that veredict?

 

Zanbee and Njoror both have said (multiple times, even) that their investigations are taking a while due to their method of investigating. What these methods are, nobody can be sure, but these methods are also ensuring highest accuracy in finding out who hacked.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 01:09 AM


If the WP can't prove that those lizards come from Æsir, and still stand on their decision to give the castle back to Exodus. I do understand why Æsir feels that way. B)

 

First, I would like to compliment 32932130510101152367, the post was reasonably well written. You seem intelligent and with a reasonably good command of the English language. As a gesture of goodwill, I will give you and your friends a little helping hand.

 

Dear Panda

 

If you have not already known, the Spanish speaking community of RO2 (in particular members of Aesir) are utterly devastated by your decision or the collective decision of the Game Masters/ Community Managers to reset the Prontera Castle which in our view was seized in a fair manner. We are unable to bring to terms, how such a decision was reached given the fact that you, yourself were present when it all happened.

 

From your past actions or inactions, it saddens me to inform you that the majority of us have developed a strong sense of distrust towards the Game Masters/ Community Managers. We feel vilified, alienated and prejudiced; just because we speak a different language. We are beginning to feel unwelcome and the thought that perhaps the Game Masters/ Community Managers are really in cahoots with other English speaking guilds, in particular our rivals simply could not escape us.

 

We remain adamant that none of the Aesir members who were present on that day, had anything to do whatsoever with the severe exploitations you had witnessed during last WOE; namely the mass summoning of Fighter Zadors and Godly buffs. We beg for your assistance in this matter to help clear the good name of our beloved guild, Aesir which has been a victim of false accusation.

 

We, members of Aesir pledge to give you our full co-operation in your investigation to hunt down the real perpetrators behinds these heinous and cowardly actions which had violated the sanctity of WOE. We sincerely hope that you will be able to conclude your investigation soon. At the very least, we, together with the wider community of Odin deserve to know the truth and that justice has been served. Who were the real culprits? And how dare they make a mockery out of all of us.

 

Thank you for listening.

 

Kind regards

Tres-dos

 

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32932130510101152367(a mouth full, I will just call you Tres-dos), now you translate the above and communicate with your community/guild leaders. If everything is all good, you should gather whatever information you have and present them to the GM/CM to help in their investigation. You may even post screenshots (removing the names of course; before you incur the wrath of Volunteer11) which were captured during that Sunday WOE. Why you may ask? You do this to indicate you have nothing to hide, transparent and is fully co-operating in the on-going investigation. You said so yourself, there were many more Aesir members than Collision and Exodus combined during Sunday WOE, therefore, it's not unreasonable to assume there ought to be many more screenshots of severe abuses captured. Someone might have seen something or heard something. Encourage them to speak out. With approximately 120 players during WOE and one Panda, someone ought to know something. Please be advice to do so in a non-accusation manner (i.e. try not to blame or flame) I understand it can be difficult, but try to remain calm. The sooner the investigation is completed and the real perpetrators revealed and punished, the sooner the good name of Aesir will be restored. After all you are with absolute certainty that none of the Aesir members were involved in mass summoning Fighter Zadors and/or Godly buffs. I know you may have other concerns, I suspect you ought to receive something as follows soon (as an example):

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Querido Tres-dos;

 

It deeply saddens me to know that the Spanish speaking community of RO2 feels a great sense of distrust towards us. Let me assure you that we value the Spanish speaking community of RO2 and in fact, we values all players on International Ragnarok Online 2 irrespective of their backgrounds.

 

We hear you and will only be more than happy to help you in understanding how we reached those past decisions and the rationale behind them.

 

1. Scenario: Galajuan seized the castle by glitching the door. 

    Decision: Reclaim the castle and reset it.

    Reason: [Please justify]

 

2. Scenario: Exodus was handing over the castle to Collision; allegedly using Godly buffs

    Decision: Collision keeps the castle

    Reason: [Please justify]

 

3. Scenario: Exodus was handing over the castle to Collision; but in vain and was taken by Aesir instead

    Decision: Return castle back to Exodus

    Reason: [Please justify]

 

[p/s: To Panda, I do not exactly know which WOEs he is referencing to and all the circumstances surrounding it. I am just listing how he had listed them (feel free to correct if any were misconstrued); but I am quite certain these are very important to him and his community at large. I have seen it being posted repeatedly in varied forms highlighting the inconsistency in decisions made by GMs throughout the period; leading to their current dissatisfaction and even going so far as to even imply GM favoritism. This is a major stumbling block in the reconciliation process and needs to be addressed with due care]

 

We are certainly aware there are screenshots and even a video being circulated implicating several members of Collision with Godly buffs while being AFK in Prontera City. We had thoroughly investigated all these reports without bias and have found them to be innocent of any wrong doing. Not only did the perpetrators tried to frame Collision members, they also tried to frame members from Galajuan with Godly buffs while being AFK in Alberta City. Our investigation confirms that the real perpetrator[s] known as [  ] from [   ] Guild had intentionally applied these Godly buffs on both Collision and Galajuan members in order to frame them and sow seeds of discord among our community. Rest assured they has been severely punished and permanently banned.We attached a section of the relevant logs as evidence in incriminating them for their cowardly actions.

 

[ p/s: To Panda, you need to shed some light on what really happened and unmask the real perpetrators and their hidden agenda. Because of the long silence and absence of a formal verdict, the seeds of discord sown has engulfed the community with strife, disharmony and distrust. Be transparent. Tell us what really happened? Who did it?]

 

Before the end of this week, we would have finished our investigation with regards to the severe exploit incident on Sunday WOE 10/20. We will then publish our investigation and reveal the identities of the perpetrators who had the intend in destroying the harmony and peace of our community. Rest assured that they will be severely punished and permanently banned. Everything will be revealed and become crystal clear by end of this week. We simply ask for you for a little more patience until that time.

 

We would also like to apologize for any of our short comings, actions or inactions which may have tarnished our standing in the eyes of your community and will endeavor to work together with you to regain that trust by taking all necessary steps to mend our relationship:

1. We will designate a part time bilingual GM/CM/Volunteer (Spanish/English) with the sole aim of bridging the gap

2. We will work hand in hand with your community leaders to bring you important Announcements in the Spanish language

3. We will hold regular dialogue sessions with your community leaders to genuinely understand any pressing concerns your community may be facing and attempt to address them in a prompt manner

4. We will be engaging your community leaders to assist the Spanish speaking community to adjust, adapt  and conform to the standards of International Ragnarok Online 2; such as conversing only in the English language while on public chat (after all, we are an English speaking server), condemning all forms of third party programs (bots, hacks or otherwise), etc...

5. [Insert suggestions] ...

 

Thank you for your regained confidence in us. We are very committed to bringing you a better iRO2 gaming experience from here forth.

 

Besos y abrazos

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[p/s: To Panda, something like that ought to clear the air a bit and help players from all sides to reconcile their differences and perhaps even find some closure.]


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 10:26 AM

Bueno SolidGood (Creo saber cual es tu GM), no hablaré ni como integrante de Æsir, hablaré como un jugador más de este "MMORPG" y como un miembro de la comunidad de habla hispana:

 

En estas ultimas semanas, con el tema de las mascotas (pets), los buffs de modo dios, el reinicio del castillo en el caso de galajuan, y todo eso, me hizo ver que una cantidad de guild latinas o españolas se desarmaban y se iban del servidor a otro juego (Creo que todos veíamos como solo "3 GUILDS" participaban en WOE) seré franco y te diré que me he encontrado a muchos ex jugadores de RO2 en distintos juegos. AYER CUANDO ESTABA JUGANDO TERA ME CAUSO GRACIA EL ESCUCHAR UNA CONVERSACIÓN EN EL CHAT GLOBAL SOBRE EL SERVIDOR DE RAGNAROK 2: ODIN (WARPPORTAL) LA CUAL DECÍA LO SIGUIENTE...

 

ANONIMO: EL MEJOR JUEGO ES RAGNAROK 2 WP

ANONIMO 2: YO VENGO DE ALLÁ, ES UNA MIERDA YA QUE LOS GMs SIEMPRE LE DAN EL FAVORITISMO A DOS GUILDS Y ESO ES ABSURDO, HE VISTO DEMASIADAS GUILDS MIGRAR DE VIDEOJUEGO A CAUSA DE LAS DECISIONES DE LOS GMs ASÍ QUE NO CREAS QUE ES EL MEJOR...

 

Es un extracto de la conversación que mantuvieron ya que muchas personas hablaron sobre ese asunto, pero en general todos hablaban como si "RAGNAROK 2: ODIN" fuera una mierda por las decisiones tomadas por los GMs y por la falta de neutralidad.

 

Me causo gracia, yo antes de pertenecer a Æsir, estaba en otra GUILD LATINA: MAREA ROJA... y desde que empece a jugar me di cuenta que una GUILD siempre recibía más que otras, o por lo menos así se veía, llego a Æsir y me doy cuenta que esto es más grave y real, ya que viví cuando collision le quito el castillo a galajuan ese domingo, y la pregunta que me nace desde el domingo pasado es... "¿Por qué a exodus le devuelven el castillo con este caso, y a Æsir no se lo devolvieron cuando galajuan lo perdió?"... bueno, espero que me la puedas responder...

 

RESPECTO AL TEMA DE SUS ERRORES COMO GMs, LOS ENTIENDO, FUI PROGRAMADOR Y DISEÑADOR DE SERVIDORES DE VIDEO JUEGOS Y SÉ COMO ES DE COMPLEJO EL TEMA CON LAS AMISTADES Y TODO, PERO CREO QUE TENIENDO A GMs ASÍ DE NOVATOS EL SERVIDOR NO PROSPERARÁ, TENGO ENTENDIDO QUE LA RESPUESTA ES EN BASE A LA REVISIÓN DE LOS REGISTROS DEL SERVIDOR (LOGS) QUE ES DONDE APARECEN TODAS LAS ACCIONES EMPLEADAS POR CADA USUARIO DESDE SU CONEXIÓN, HASTA LO QUE HABLA POR EL CHAT PRIVADO. Y ME SORPRENDE VER LA INEFICIENCIA DE LOS GMs EN ESTE CASO YA QUE CON ESO ES 100% DETECTABLE EL USUARIO CULPABLE Y SABER DE QUE GUILD ERA...

 

PD: Si las GUILDS LATINAS y los miembros de la comunidad de habla hispana, están abandonando el juego, ES LA CULPA DE LOS GMs Y ADMINISTRACIÓN DEL SERVIDOR...

Espero puedan resolver todo pronto, ya que pronto lo llamaremos "Ragnarok 2: SERVIDOR EXCLUSIVO NA" y no será un MMORPG... será un RPG solamente...

 

PD2: Es triste ver aquí en el foro como los "GRINGOS" molestan a usuarios con MAL INGLES, me encantaría verlos hablando español con la cantidad de modismos que existen...

 

PD3: Si gustas responde en ingles, lo entiendo y hablo, pero si es cierto lo que dijiste arriba podrás ponerme atención así como lo escribí...

 

Saludos, besos y abrazos.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 11:28 AM

solution = ban collision and exodus permanent 


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 11:36 AM

solution = ban collision and exodus permanent 

 

This does not solve anything.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 11:43 AM

This does not solve anything.

 

The best solution is, track the hackers (via LOG), ban them, release a patch that block the hack, and if the hacker is from aesir, RESET the castle (dont give it back to exodus), if is from collision or exodus, give the castle back to Aesir.

 

Also show proofs that the hacker is from X guild.

 

ps: sorry for my english


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 12:00 PM

Saludos, besos y abrazos.

ATTE. ZevN - Martín

 

Well, I think people are leaving the server from all communities.. as you've said, only a minority of players bother with WoE, and many of the others issues affect all parts of the game. People have plenty of reasons to rage at the administration of the server.

 

But, it's a fact that the Fighter Zadors were not attacking Aesir members (in videos), and people from other guilds said they were in fact attacked. That alone no doubt was preliminary evidence the CMs used in their decision. They have actually said they are fully reviewing the logs - it will just take some time, so, maybe try to be a bit more patient. Who knows, it could have been a small minority (or even one) member of the guild causing issues in secret. Last patch fixed it, so, if your guild truly did deserve the castle, you all should be able to take it back next WoE.

 

I doubt the CMs will show proof - sharing logs is a bit much. About all you can do is just trust in their word once the decision comes, or just leave and be done with it. You already did say you were quitting - if you're this upset, I think it would be good to move on.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 12:30 PM

man, when Æsir win the castle the guardians start to attack the zadors, and if u know... the desing of the zadors is attack mobs, don't attack players... "Bapho - COA" maybe u remember that the fighter from bapho and coa don't attack the players, only mobs... the fighters attack our kafras too and siege, but if u know when the Fighter Zadors is above from you he buffed you with 100% atk u can see this in bapho :)... and if the zardors is summon above the siege weapon this are buffed too...http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Ybyb9Rejkn8 in this video u see that the zadors don't attack exodus and Æsir members... and if Æsir summon the zadors the guardians why attack it? 2:00min zadors fight with guardian...


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 12:59 PM

The Fighter Zadors in Bapho wouldn't hit you since they're on your side. Who knows how they'd react to helper NPCs though like the guardians. :/ In that video, there's not really a clear shot of how close the outside one is to the Exodus members. Forum posts from members of other guilds said they did get hit, though (which I know is hardly evidence).

 

Oh, also, SolidGold's post.. there is no bilingual GM (as far as I know, though support is said to have people speaking many languages). Half of that post is an "example" of what a CM "should" say - I don't know why he bothered to go through the effort of typing it all out, especially given how misleading it is.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 03:15 PM

Saludos, besos y abrazos.

ATTE. ZevN - Martín

This guy had dedication and so, Im going to translate it (no, its definetely not because Im extremely bored)

 

Note: from here it is not me talking:

 

Well SolidGood (I think I know who is your GM), I will not speak as an Æsir, I will speak as one more player of this "MMORPG" and as a member of the hispanic community:

 

In the latests weeks, the topic of the pets, the godly buffs, the restart of the castle in the case of Galajuan, and all of that, allowed me to see the quantity of latin or spanic guilds disbanding and leaving the server to other games (I think we all saw how only "3 GUILDS" participated in WoE), I'll be franc and tell you that I've found many ex-RO2 players in different games. YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS PLAYING TERA I FOUND FUNNY TO HEAR A CONVERSATION IN THE GLOBAL CHAT ABOUT THE RAGNAROK 2: ODIN SERVER (WARPPORTAL) WHICH SAID THE NEXT...

 

ANONYMOUS: THE BEST GAME IS RAGNAROK 2 WP

 

ANONYMOUS 2: I COME FROM THERE, IT IS SH¡T SINCE ALL THE GMs ARE ALWAYS SIDING WITH 2 GUILDS AND THAT'S ABSURD, I'VE SEEN TOO MANY GUILDS MIGRATE TO OTHER VIDEOGAMES BECAUSE OF THE GMs' DECISIONS SO DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS THE BEST...

 

It is an extract of the conversation sustained since many people spoke about the topic, but in general everyone were speaking as if "RAGNAROK 2: ODIN" was nothing but sh¡t because of the decisions taken by the GMs and because of the lack of neutrality.

 

I found it funny, before I was a part of Æsir, I was in another HISPANIC GUILD: MAREA ROJA... and since I started playing I realized that one GUILD would always receive more than the others, or at the very least thats how it looked. I arrive at Æsir and I realize this is even more serious and real, since I felt in the flesh when Collision snatched the castle away from Galajuan that Sunday, and the question arisen deep in me since that past Sunday is... "¿Why are you giving the castle back to Exodus in this case, and you didn't do this for Æsir when Galajuan lost it?"... well, I hope you can answer me this...

 

ABOUT THE TOPIC OF YOUR ERRORS AS GMs, I UNDERSTAND YOU, I'VE BEEN A PROGRAMMER AND DESIGNER OF VIDEOGAME SERVERS AND I KNOW HOW COMPLEX IT IS TO DEAL WITH THE FRIENDSHIP TOPICS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT HAVING SUCH NOVICE GMs THE SERVER WILL NOT PROSPERATE, I THINK THE ANSWERS ARE BASED ON THE REVIEW OF THE LOGS WHICH IS WHERE ALL THE ACTIONS EMPLOYED BY EACH USER FROM THEIR LOG IN TO WHAT THEY SPEAK IN PRIVATE CHAT APPEAR. I AM SURPRISED ABOUT THE INEFFICIENCY FROM THE GMs ON THIS CASE SINCE WITH THIS IS 100% POSSIBLE TO DETECT THE USER AT FAULT AND KNOW TO WHICH GUILD HE/SHE WAS FROM...

 

PD. If the HISPANIC GUILDS and the members of the hispanic community are abandoning the game, IS BECAUSE OF THE GMs AND THE SERVER ADMINISTRATION...

 

I hope you can solve everything soon, since soon we'll be calling this "Ragnarok 2: THE NA EXCLUSIVE SERVER" and it will not be a MMORPG... it'll be no more than a RPG...

 

PD2: It is sad to see here in the forum how the "GRINGOS" bully the users with BAD ENGLISH, I would love to see you speaking spanish with all the existing idioms...

 

PD3: If you'd like to answer in english, I understand and speak it, but if it is true what you said above, you could pay attention to me just as how I wrote it...

 

Best regards.

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 02:33 AM

This may be long but: 

All this drama. It always happens with the top guilds in any game :x People just point fingers and cuss at each other without really figuring out what happened. All these editted vids and screenshots of people complaining about woe and hack buffs. I don't even know what to say . Tbh Its not the GMs not being neutral that's making everyone leave, Its the fact that this community is rotten and spoiled as hell that's causing people to stay away from the game.Of course most of us are staying because we have our guildies/friends. Im pretty sure they don't wanna release evidence or any proof of investigation since it is against the rules for players to do it publicly so why would they slap themselves in the face and show proof. I'm also certain that even if they did show proof it's gonna lead to something like " collision private server" & " sell collision DNA fragments" etc. I'm certain with Aesir there has been a case where someone was indeed caught hacking and kicked as i read from a different thread. Just because one member does something -_-ty doesn't mean everyone in the guild is -_-. Also, just because people point and say hey they're OP and Gms favor them doesn't mean it actually happens. That's dumb. It's like pointing at some random stranger on the street and going like oh he must be a serial killer or something ( i know thats not the best explanation) but I'm surprised at the amount of people complaining when they're not even at the scene where things happened. For example, I did hear about the lizards and -_-. I'm not happy about them either but I don't go ranting about how some guild abused bugs if I wasn't there to see it myself. I was indeed there, however, for most of the times that people bugged thru the gate. Even so, it doesn't mean i'll post up some long topic ending in: 

please ban galajuan / aesir or something like that. As much as there's issues in woe and pvp etc. It doesn't keep us away from recruiting each other in pugged raid runs. I don't see why everyone's showing all this hate here and there. 


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:05 PM

Dear Zanbee

 

How is it that Asiasoft is able to successfully conclude their investigation of player(s) using an illegal 3rd party program (hack) during WOE within 5 days (10/26 to 10/30), while we have yet to hear the outcome of your investigation into the severe exploitations during our WoE on Sunday, 10/20 (ten days and counting...) to reveal what really happened? who did it? and which guild(s)? And what punishment had been carried out against those perpetrators?

 

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source: http://ro2.playpark....h-october-2013/

 

Kindly expedite your investigation and deliver a just and satisfactory resolution to us. Thank you in advance.

 

(p/s I wouldn't mind some freebies; but I wasn't present at that WOE) :rice:


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 03:24 AM

how about making the emperium area or the whole castle a no-invi area. which makes it easier because everyone can see who is using a hack or something. and you can see the real black sheep on the guild.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:53 PM

^Why are you naked in the picture?


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Posted 03 November 2013 - 12:32 AM

^Why are you naked in the picture?

 

Pr3: Asking the important questions


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Posted 03 November 2013 - 02:11 AM

So in short. There are GM/CM's inside a guild either Colission or Exodus?


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 05:22 AM

So in short. There are GM/CM's inside a guild either Colission or Exodus?


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 07:12 AM

That's not rumors. That's a question.


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#71 Billeh

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:54 AM

That's not rumors. That's a question.

The answer is no, not to our knowledge. In fact I don't even know if any of the CM's even play the game anymore.


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#72 MorbidCoffee

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:28 AM

Njoror was harassing me about eating phones yesterday in game and I think that was his way of trying to recruit me to collision and no matter how many times I said no he kept saying "phones" until I said I'd join.

 

You guys need to keep your CMs in check!


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