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#1 THEWARDEN

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 02:08 PM

Hello everyone!,

 

I bring a new, weird bug to the table, I invited one of my friends to play RO with me, he made his RO warp portal account and entered the game by pressing play, and it auto logged in perfectly... This is where it gets weird, we leveled up to where we could create a party, we have yet to be able to find each other on the game, I organized a party and told him to pop out on the same map I was on, he entered it but usually it will show your friends hp when they are in the same map as you, nope, it said he was there but somewhere else, like a different "instance." like a purgatory, he says theirs people playing on it but maybe only a handful, not many, somehow players are getting stuck in this alternate server and have no clue they are there apparently, he can join my party and I can 1:1 message him like hes there but, hes not physically on the same map or instance. I hope you guys can maybe look into this, hes logging into Chaos server with over 2k people.

 

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#2 DrAzzy

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 02:42 PM

I'm pretty sure this is just a miscommunication

 

Is it telling you that you're on the same map as he is when you two do /where ?

 

There are plenty of cases in game of multiple maps of the same "name" (ex, a bunch of moc_fild maps are named Sograt Desert, but they're each different maps. /where tells you the actual map and your coordinates on it).


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#3 THEWARDEN

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 02:58 PM

Alright, we discovered somthing, no we know we are in the same maps, but when he is izlude, his is satilite izlude, and mine is izlude, whats the difference?! Theres some kind of instance there.

I'm pretty sure this is just a miscommunication

 

Is it telling you that you're on the same map as he is when you two do /where ?

 

There are plenty of cases in game of multiple maps of the same "name" (ex, a bunch of moc_fild maps are named Sograt Desert, but they're each different maps. /where tells you the actual map and your coordinates on it).

 


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Posted 03 November 2013 - 03:18 PM

Heres proof.

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 03:42 PM

Ever since the izlude update there are multiple izlude towns and multiple south prontera fields. I realized this when my girlfriend started RO. I think if you both walk into prontera then go back out to Prontera field you should see eachother. Otherwise find the npc in Izlude (123, 105) and make sure you are in the same channel.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:05 AM

Hi I have the similar issue. Me and my friend we're both on the Chaos server but for me it says ~2500 ppl online and for him ~1600. We decided to meet in the center of Prontera and for me this town looks as always but for him it's all bloody and messed up (halloween style). Are we in some kind of different instances?

I haven't play RO for a while so I don't know what is going on and this new Izude was a suprise aswell.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:28 AM

Alright, we discovered somthing, no we know we are in the same maps, but when he is izlude, his is satilite izlude, and mine is izlude, whats the difference?! Theres some kind of instance there.

 

It is absolutely not an "instance". "Instance" refers to copies of a map(s) that are created for a single party, where only that party can enter, and which are destroyed afterwards, thus allowing multiple groups to go there without interfering with eachother. This is what is typically meant by the term in online gaming in general. 

 

This is a case of two different maps with the same layout, not an instance. 

 

If you all were to type /where, you'd see that you are on different maps (the part that matters is something like "izlude 65,200", "prt_fild01 25,50" - the map name shown just before the coords is always unique and is the actual name of the map (except for instances, where the map name is prefixed by a number and an @, for example "1@cata")). 

 

 

As others said, there are multiple versions of that map as part of the new novice training grounds added on september 4th. I don't know exactly how this bit works, because I haven't created any new characters since then (for one thing, all my slots are full). I think you can only get to the "training" version of the map before you finish the novice training grounds, after which it'll put you onto the normal version of the map.  


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 03:56 PM

This is screwed up I keep being asked this when I'm out in Izlude helping.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:56 PM

Maybe we need to talk to the CM's about getting this changed to be less confusing. 


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:45 AM

Well this is the weird thing, When I played with my first friend we had no problem playing and finding each other, then my second friend, "that now wants nothing to do with this game now :(" hes in this virtual purgatory and we could never meet... I think it should just get removed because only a select handful get thrown into this place that's like an alternate Ragnarok, I bet it has not been reported because maybe a lot of the players in this mirror map are solo players, and many of them don't play with friends, or maybe they got lucky and their friend got thrown in with them, and not the case with me and my 2nd friend whereas I got tossed into the main map and he got thrown into the mirror map, he asked a player walking by and he just replied ,"Just blame Steam." now that's very upsetting because steam has nothing to do with Ragnarok bugs, Steam is doing Ragnarok the favor of allowing to to be distributed on their platform and have nothing to do with the development of the game. Do us a favor and just gut and root this alternate map thing, its confusing and upsetting, and my friends not gonna come back :/


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:52 PM

Ok guys I know what happened for me and it's mind blowing! I think it has something to do with where I'm living right now. I currently live in UK and my friends are from Eastern Europe. So what happened? We all downloaded game from Steam and I don't know how and why I was automaticaly assigned to IRO server (server I always played) and my friends were assigned to Ragnarok European Server. So this is explaining why they are offline form me and why they have like ~1k less ppl online.

I didn't even knew that Ragnarok Europe is online because few years ago I heard that server is going down because of low player base so that's why I was so confused. And as I expected there is no way to choose server you want to play so they have to download the client from IRO page.

 

And that's all. Mystery solved... for me :P


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#12 THEWARDEN

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:54 PM

I wish that was the case for me, but we could actually write each other in-game but we could not see each other :(


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 09:48 AM

I think after today's maintenance everything should be good even for you.

 

Training grounds enhancements

Criatura monster hunt mission NPC will warp players to Prontera Field 8, and will have a NPC to warp back on that same field

Second instances of Izlude and South Pront Field will be discontinued due to confusion when trying to organize newbie parties/find friends

Removing non-tamable little poring NPCs from taming tutorial area to reduce confusion

And the theard link: http://forums.warppo...ay-maintenance/


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