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[iHeroic]

Evade has a cap now so what am I suppose to do?! All my gear to waste

[StormHaven]

Ummm...Learn to play without evade? It's not that hard..

Edited by StormHaven, 02 December 2013 - 12:57 PM.

[Starkespada1]

stack health,attack speed,and movement speed and slap on element accessories that's pretty much what everyone else did.

[Rabbicarpo2011]

stack health,attack speed,and movement speed and slap on element accessories that's pretty much what everyone else did.

everyone who didn't quit ninja 

[Apocryphos]

Best Update Ever.

Spoiler

Pro's
No more evade nubs

Easier to kill everyone.

Overall Fairness increased.

Con's

Crybabies be crying.

ragequiters be ragequitting.

Complainers be complaining

 

@OP

Randomize for hlt and agi at the very least if they're enchanted they can atleast block most weapon damage, or even promote greater resistance via 6* or 4 pcs of the Lv.4 Elemental Accessories.

Atleast you have agi for increasing crit rate.

Just think of it this way. Now you can hit people who you couldn't hit before.

Check my youtube channel no evade pvp even with other ninja's it's pretty easy.

Edited by Apocryphos, 03 December 2013 - 10:00 AM.

[noxis]

bring evade back. it was more fun then.

[Rabbicarpo2011]

bring evade back. it was more fun then.

Bring it back and expect QQ from more than half of the end game players who can't hit 3-4 ninjas 100% in BSQ

[mag727]

Bring it back and expect QQ from more than half of the end game players who can't hit 3-4 ninjas 100% in BSQ

bring on the qq'ers. we had more people when evade was on. people stood united against one common enemy.

[Coolsam]

bring on the qq'ers. we had more people when evade was on. people stood united against one common enemy.

 

Because ruining any hope of variety in our class builds just to hit a required aim rate for PvP'ing was any better. Despite that aim/evade are still relevant it's just at a level-based formula now and has a cap dodge rate. I never liked ruining all my chances of stats like Health, Movement Speed, or Critical Rate just to hit my old 500-ish aim max that didn't even 100% hit half the endgame uber-stacked ninjas. I really doubt a lot of players wanna go back to force-re-rolling our characters to hit the required aim just to fight 2-3 ninjas in their level Range. Or in endgame's case, a lot more who managed to hit 550+ Evade or the 2-3 at or near 700 evade at the pre-nerf time. And I'm not even dipping into Sentinels or the occasional max-evade Savage or Destroyer.

 

Evade/Aim's reworking did help players. Ninjas now play more safe in their PvP skills making and waiting for openings, playing defensive until the right moments, and stacking stats to help them do so like Movement Speed and back-up health. You'd be surprised how much movement speed a ninja can achieve especially for the mobility Ninja Frenzy grants. Just practice some evade-less PvP and learn the tricks to surviving at 0 evade.

 

And despite the loss in Evade, Ninja's can still pack a heavy punch damage-wise with elements and/or even their critical rate from lethal attack. The class hasn't become totally useless I still see some powerhouse people maining ninjas that managed to do well in this update.

[GetSumDimsum]

new here.. so does that mean evade is a useless stats no? how bout for pve ?

[Rabbicarpo2011]

new here.. so does that mean evade is a useless stats no? how bout for pve ?

yep 100% useless

[ScrambledCraig]

Just gotta deal with it.

I had to reroll most my armor to Hp because of the nerf.

[EarhSaker]

I was thinking a lot about the ninja class. Now without evade rate what is the purpose of that class? to stack HP and ms ? Well if it so i think it is better to play with warrior class... Definitely we need some changes. Also to say some of the skills that give us evade rate are useless..

[5143121023173906760]

Ninjas still have a lot of damages and cool skills.

Warrior doesn't replace ninjas. You need to stack C.Rate on warriors while ninjas don't need many items to increase their C.Rate since it is an AGI based class.

Also ninjas has smooth moves. You can't move quickly while using skills with a warrior.

[Agitodesu]

I 5-0 apocryphos against his ninja with a level 25 weapon and him using a +20 elga weapon. Not sure if one of the top players at ninja is bad or the ninjas got hit hard. I assume ninjas got nerfed pretty hard in my opinion in pvp.

Edited by Agitodesu, 09 October 2015 - 05:31 PM.

[flubsy]

I can say I can 5-0 2Sicc if I really wanted.  He has as max cdmg/cr/hp build.  And that is literally paper against me, even when I dumb down gears.

 

Ninjas need it in order to survive to some extent or have a higher Cdmg cap or something

[7678160114071226753]

Aim rate and evade rate are useless
Gm can u remake it?
Unfair to Ninja,savage,destroyer,sentiel
Aim rate and evade rate are useless
Gm can u remake it?
Unfair to Ninja,savage,destroyer,sentiel