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[GreenIvy]

So the new boxter brought down the price of chibi a little.

 

I am wondering for full support AB, which one is better? I have a blush now, planning to slot it with Arch Angeling.

 

Ygg seem to give more healing bonus? Chibi comes with 1 slot, I plan to leave it empty for now.

[Havenn]

Chibi's best results come with it's upgrade and set bonus with Blush [1] 

 

Since it is slotted, it allows for the use of cards which are extremely powerful for FS ABs. Like AA card as you said, but more importantly, Pharaoh or White Lady MVP cards push those items to the epic level. Where Ygg crown can never go.

 

However, since this requires a lot of money, you might want to use Ygg for now. Though Chibi is going to be your end game headgear.

[RoyalHeritage]

Ygg only works on you while Chibi works for all <-- Most important :v

[Havenn]

=O i never knew that. yea, definitely chibi then haha

[Kadelia]

Wrong. the Ygg works on other people.

 

The chibi only heals others for minutely more.

 

Ygg heals yourself for dramatically more.

 

Ygg is the superior headgear unless you have the MVP card White Lady or the not yet implemented card, parus.

[RoyalHeritage]

i have both, the Chibi heals more as compared to Ygg on others. While Ygg heals more on yourself :v. I totally lost track that ygg works on people as well but its quite less compared to the Chibi. Chibi does even more with a blush on.

Edited by RoyalHeritage, 21 December 2013 - 10:46 AM.

[GreenIvy]

Thanks everyone!

 

I guess I unconsciously also lean more towards chibi c'z it looks more cute than ygg  even cuter with blush

[kasshin]

You can use two useful cards with chibi [1] and blush [1] like Arc Angeling + Ungoliant, double Arc Angeling, or other options.

[Kadelia]

You can still use a useful mid with ygg crown, such as ungoilant mini glasses, or an arc angeling, so the (generally unnecessary) stacking of 2 is all you'd really get. I don't really ever see the need for an arc angeling on a well built +heal% bishop, anyway.

Edited by Jaye, 21 December 2013 - 05:03 PM.

[amandabambi]

I have both, and my Yggdrasil Crown just sits around collecting dust in storage. Whilst the Yggdrasil Crown does allow you to heal yourself for more, it lacks a card slot. Personally, I rarely heal myself. I am in the habit of potting whilst buffing or healing others, so the added heal bonus from a Yggdrasil Crown is not something I deem important. It really comes down to your playing style. There is no right or wrong. 

[Havenn]

I have both, and my Yggdrasil Crown just sits around collecting dust in storage. Whilst the Yggdrasil Crown does allow you to heal yourself for more, it lacks a card slot. Personally, I rarely heal myself. I am in the habit of potting whilst buffing or healing others, so the added heal bonus from a Yggdrasil Crown is not something I deem important. It really comes down to your playing style. There is no right or wrong. 

 

*Looks at your ROPD* 

 

What would you know about ABs?!

 

XD

[Beata]

Testing a +12 ygg crown vs +12 chibi pope/blush combo yielded that Ygg crown is superior when it comes to healing (self & others) unless you have White Lady card then a +12 chibi pope/blush combo will win.

[Kadelia]

Testing a +12 ygg crown vs +12 chibi pope/blush combo yielded that Ygg crown is superior when it comes to healing (self & others) unless you have White Lady card then a +12 chibi pope/blush combo will win.

 

The chibi pope should heal slightly more to others, but dramatically more to self, making the crown a much better item to FS with, since controlling the mob to only be on you and healing yourself is generally safer than healing a plethora of other people, much less SP use, too.

[Beata]

Hm the heal output to others between +12 ygg and +12 chibi is almost close, but still get more healing power from +12 ygg. Wonder if am missing something during the test.

[Kadelia]

It should be straight forward with heal from ygg crown being a lower +% than the +12 chibi combo lol

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Which makes the Ygg a better choice because of the price. Unless you are somehow able to afford a +12 chibi pope, go for the +7 or +9 ygg 99.99% of the time.

[Havenn]

Use the +9 Ygg till you can afford the +12 Chibi, Chibi is your endgame headgear 

[Beata]

Test results (naked ab minus the headgears with an active blessing buff):

Note regular heal without headgear(s) is 2169.
AB base stats were: 100 int, 73 dex, 90 luk.

 

Edited by Beata, 24 December 2013 - 04:14 AM.

[GreenIvy]

Test results (naked ab minus the headgears with an active blessing buff):

Note regular heal without headgear(s) is 2169.

 

 

wow, 420 difference on self

[MeisterKirisaki]

Test results (naked ab minus the headgears with an active blessing buff):

Note regular heal without headgear(s) is 2169.

 

Same Int as well? 

 

From your test, Yggdrasil Crown at +12 offers about +17,5% to heal, Chibi Pope + Blush only increase heal by about 15%. 

 

The mathematical values would be

Yggdrasil Crown +18% 

Chibi Pope + Blush +16% 

if the following formulas are correct.

 

Yggdrasil Crown at +7 or higher:  (Upgrade + 1%) + (Upgrade - 7%) (= 2x Upgrade - 6%)

Chibi Pope at +6 or higher + Blush: (10% + Upgrade - 6%) (= Upgrade + 4%)

 

In that case, a Yggdrasil Crown is the better choice if it's upgraded to +11 or higher, Chibi Pope + Blush would be the better choice if the headgears are upgraded to +9 or below.

Edited by MeisterKirisaki, 24 December 2013 - 02:53 AM.

[Kadelia]

Test results (naked ab minus the headgears with an active blessing buff):

Note regular heal without headgear(s) is 2169.
AB base stats were: 100 int, 73 dex, 90 luk.

 

 

The thing that changes the game is the Parus card. If you slot a Parus card into a Chibi pope, it adds another +9% heal, making the Chibi Pope superior on outbound heals and helping bridge the gap on incoming heals. The best situation for healing a tank would be a double parus carded pope combo healing a tank wearing a +12 ygg crown.
 

[Beata]

^ Yup. The cards that are worth slotting into chibi pope hat are either Parus or White Lady.. and probably Pharao. Personally I find other cards such as AA going into chibi kind of a waste.

[Kadelia]

I think people will find that as they get their +% heal up to really high amounts that they tend not to run out of SP because they use fewer heals, so AA becomes unnecessary.

[GreenIvy]

I plan to put an AA in blush. So that other class can use it as well. Is it good?

[Beata]

Should be okay.