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[Uristx]

Hello ! My first character, an AGI 2HS Knight, is getting close to 99, so I need to think about my rebirth. I'm planning on doing an hybrid Hundred Spear / Dragon Breath build following this guide (and build), since I hate Bowling Bash and AGI ASPD looks like a joke at higher level without a lot of equipment. A few question about this guide :

 

1) Why 2H Quicken and Bowling Bash lvl 10 ? To be able to AOE before Dragon Bearth I guess ? I will never use 2HQ with my 1 AGI, it's just here as a prerequisite for BB ? Why not get Brandish Spear lvl 10 instead of BB and save ~20 points ?

 

2) How do I level as a pure VIT pre RK ? Considering this is my first character, and I only have the Eden Quest equipment and about 20m zeny. Auto-attack + Bash as a Swordman, then Pierce/Spiral Pierce and Brandish Spear as a LK ? It's gonna be expensive if I don't put a lot of point in INT, right ?

 

3) Final question, not really build related. Do I need to get all Platinum Skills (Swordman and Knight) before the rebirth or will I be able to get them afterwards ?

 

Thanks ! 

Edited by Uristx, 22 December 2013 - 04:08 AM.

[RedKing08]

1- No, if you're planning on a HS/DB build with 1agi, you dont need 2H quicken. Brandish Spear and Clashing Spiral are gonna be your main attack skills before you turn RK.

 

2- Swordie leveling is pretty easy if you can afford healing items. Get to lv30, which isn't hard to do, and start mobbing on orcs with magnum break. Then move to orc dungeon once you reach close to changing job. You can stay there till 70 pretty easily with the current exp event. If you get it well, you should be able to get a level before running out of sp. Then at 70, start doing TIs or do the juno board quests till lv 85.

 

3- You will automaticaly get the swordman quest skills after you rebirth ( HP recovery while walking, berserk and fatal blow). You can get back Charge Attack later.

[Kydon]

With all due respect, MrBudd's RK builds are so much outdate to the point its that it is misleading to new players, reading his site is like doing archaeological excavation on the history of ragnarok with his builds+gears being fossils left there to be discovered by new knowledge thirsty swordmen.

 

I am pretty sure that in 1 or 2 years the game will be so different that new people will look at those builds and be like "OH WOW PPL USED TO FIGHT LIKE THAT? O_O"

 

I recommend you to NOT follow any of them and instead ask again for Skill and Stats suggestions here (also please be specific in what you plan to do with your RK. there is alot of specialization that can be done in a RK build depending on where u plan to use it)

 

1) i dont recommend 1 agi even on the purest HS/DB PVM build.

 

Bowling Bash is stronger than Brandish Spear, that makes it a better leveling skill even in the early RK levels before u get enough HP/SP to do good dmg with Dragon Breath. Brandish Spear on the other hand costs less SP and its more new-player friendly. In the end the choice is yours (On a 150/50 RK that plans to woe/pvp i dont recommend BB for totally different reasons though)

 

2) Leveling on a low agi Knight costs some zeny. u will need both HP (cause u will level up by mobbing monsters) and SP recovery items (cause without agi u relay purerly on skill spaming to do dmg).

 

Putting points on INT will raise your SP regen and the SP u get from SP Pots, it kinda makes you save money by using less SP pots. I wouldnt recommend getting more than 20 INT though, u still need to raise STR/DEX/VIT :U

 

One extra advice that i can give you is... Get a +5 Orcish Sword its Required Level is 5 and it will make your life easier till you can use the first eden weapon you have.

 

 

Edited by Kydon, 22 December 2013 - 04:33 PM.

[Uristx]

Thanks ! I plan to use my RK mainly for PVE/Zeny farm. Since it's my first character I won't focus on woe/pvp/mvp.

 

How much min AGI do you recommend ?

I think i'll go the Spear route (Brandish Spear + HS). I don't like BB, I fail too many BB due to glutterline and poor placement to rely on this skill for AoE.

BS will be easier to use, even if it does less damage (and i'll need to waste 4 points in Cavalier Mastery, i think ?)

 

CS/BS to level in LK, HS/BS early RK then DB/HS is gonna be okay, I hope.

 

Thanks !

 

Edit: this is the build i'm planning

 

Rune Mastery / Dragon Breath / Hundred Spears as a RK

Brandish Spears / Clashing Spiral / Aura Blade / Spear Dyanmo as a LK

Magnum Break / Bash as a Swordman

 

Am I missing important skills ?

 

Thanks !

Edited by Uristx, 23 December 2013 - 04:37 PM.

[Kydon]

If you go the spear way you will have plenty of skill points to waste :U
 
Anyway this build is probably what you are looking for. It has the skills needed to level up and also the skills needed for woe, in case you change your mind you wont need to skill reset your RK

 

50-60 agi. the reason for this is something called "animation delay", to make it more easy for you to understand lets just say that aspd also makes your animation sprite act faster when you cast skills. its not something necessary to get but it will make your character act more responsive more fluid and you will be able to chain skill actions better. Another use of agi is that it gives you resists to Masquerade skills on pvp/woe.

 

Oh and let me answer some frequently asked questions to save us both some time

 

Q: What should i do with the 11 skill points left?

A: either get lvl 5 Sonic Wave and lvl 3 DeathBound or just lvl 9 DeathBound

 

Q: Why no Spear Boomerang? :U

A: The auto cast on HS is annoying. 1 second global cooldown and a 6 cell knockback that i didnt want for 1k extra dmg on HS? HELL NO (In case you have a different opinion take 5 points from Parry and put them there)

 

Q: Why no lvl 10 bash?

A: You wont stay swordman for too long so it gets obsolete really fast

 

Q: Do i still need to get 2handed quicken?

A: There is nothing else to get for what you asked. you might as well use this skill build and not even notice a difference (Please do NOT take my advice seriously. MAX all job levels)

 

Q: Any more advices?

A: Ask the right questions and you will get the right answers.

Edited by Kydon, 23 December 2013 - 06:08 PM.

[kasshin]

Apparently the Hypnotist in Prontera can reset your skills (but not stats) unlimited times while under 100. I haven't tested this to be clear on the details; does anyone know if it works for third classes? Works for both 99 and 100?

 

But anyway, just for skills, you can go with any skill build before reaching RK and reset for a proper RK build at 99 or 100 if you want to. This includes Cavalier Mastery, which is USELESS for RK and you should never be caught with over level 1 as RK (which is pre-req). But Cav Mastery might help you a bit as an LK.