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[Maronu]

Character Cards

Character cards, an item obtained by a quest chain, ask for your real life information and give you certain stats based upon what information you put. However, you cannot change your information to change your stats. Some of the possible stats are relatively useless, while others are extremely good. Because character cards used to all give the same stat (hp), many older players made character cards, unaware that putting their rl information or random information would result in them receiving unwanted stats in the future. Now a lot of players who are lvl 65 are stuck with unwanted stat bonuses, and their only option to get a character card that gives them the stats they want is to abandon their mains and reroll brand new characters. =(

Possible Suggestions:


Let players change the bonus given by their character card at will (by using a drop down box).

Remove the current bonuses and change it so that all character cards give the same bonus.

Delete character cards and allow players to do the quest again or do it on an alt to get a new character card.

Remove player character cards altogether. Remove them from players. Remove the quest for obtaining them, and make any that are in players inventories unusable.

Implement an option for players to delete their character card before using a new one, or make it so that using a new character card (obtained by trading or making an alt) completely replaces the old character card and gives players a new stat bonus.

Allow players to get a new character card with the bonuses they want by filing a support ticket.






Medals

There are 3 medals that a lot of older players are no longer able to obtain.

Listed here

This isn't as big a deal as the character cards by any means, but players who started earlier are still cheated out of a good amount of AP because these medals are unobtainable.

Suggestion:

I believe there was a version of Dragonica that sent the medals you obtained in the mail, and you had to get them out and click on them in your inventory in order to get it. My suggestion is to have the 3 missable medals sent to players in the mail as an item that you can use to get the medal. Allow players to trade the medals they get in the mail so that they can make an alt to get the medals or buy them.

Currently this affects new players as well because if you want to obtain the medals and you fail to job advance your character the first day of playing or you die, you have to make a new character.

Edited by Maronu, 26 November 2010 - 07:44 PM.

[Maronu]

Rules/Disclaimer:

This is not a petition or anything, but just some suggestions that I think are valid. Feel free to post your opinions about the current character card system and state if you like any of the suggestions, why the suggestions are bad, or come up with your own suggestions. Let's just keep this civil. You are free to post your experiences and opinion of this new character card system, but just be polite. Suggestions and discussion only. No demands, signing, talks of quitting, or anything like that allowed here.

Edited by Maronu, 01 November 2010 - 11:05 AM.

[Tundra]

I like this idea beacause I like balance and fairness. It's not fair for a warrior to get 5% strength, and then a mage winds up with 5% strength as well. What's a mage going to do with strength?! Anyways, it should give 3% health, aim, and evade. It's a low number AND they're all stats that can be used by everyone. They're also not game breaking numbers.

[Iamshow]

If they made those changes they would also have to make changes with kimart wings(illegally obtained because of a fail gm), because alot of the players were also "cheated out" of getting them.

Edited by Iamshow, 04 November 2010 - 04:23 PM.

[Maronu]

If they made those changes they would also have to make changes with kimart wings(illegally obtained because of a fail gm), because alot of the players were also "cheated out" of getting them.

No they wouldn't. With kimart wings it was possible to spend money on insurance and stuff to upgrade them. No money was spent on character cards or medals. Also, Kimart wings are obtainable by finding a seller and having enough gold to buy them. Character cards are obtainable by abandoning the character that you are playing (the character many players have spent a lot of time and invested money on) and starting a brand new character.

I'm not arguing for or against the removal of Kimart Wings. The point is the things you are comparing are very different, and even if they had more in common, Gravity wouldn't be obligated to treat them in the same way. Gravity should make decisions that keep cash spenders happy. You can argue that removing Kimart wings would make cash spenders happy, but this thread is not even about Kimart wings.

I feel that the way character cards work now is completely unfair to older players. It's irritating. The change was a bad decision imo, and it makes me less inclined to spend money on this game. However, if you feel that the way character cards currently work is a good thing, and it will cause most players to spend more on the game, then please explain.

[LadiThePKK]

I agree with the OP.

[Eldarath]

I want this change lol, I am stuck with 10% Extra MP!!!!!!!!

[Devikn]

Btw.. you can just make an alt, grab the Character Card and trade it back to your main.

I'm just saying that but I never tried to see if you are able to replace the information from your old character card.

[Eldarath]

Wierd... my character card is gone all my info is blank again... O-o

[hsidnomeL]

So, if I'm understanding the OP correctly about the medals suggestion... You want to give medals to old players, even if they didn't earn the medals? I don't know about you, but if I worked to get my character to 20 and job advance in under 24 hours without dying, I'd be a bit.... let's just say upset shall we?, if older characters got it handed to them for free. If it's really that important to you, roll a new character and level that one. :\ I think handing out medals to people that didn't earn them, whether they had the chance to or not, is idiotic at best. That destroys the whole purpose of getting the medals in the first place!

[Rynas]

So, if I'm understanding the OP correctly about the medals suggestion... You want to give medals to old players, even if they didn't earn the medals? I don't know about you, but if I worked to get my character to 20 and job advance in under 24 hours without dying, I'd be a bit.... let's just say upset shall we?, if older characters got it handed to them for free. If it's really that important to you, roll a new character and level that one. :\ I think handing out medals to people that didn't earn them, whether they had the chance to or not, is idiotic at best. That destroys the whole purpose of getting the medals in the first place!

No, I think Maronu is saying making the medals tradable so people can make an alt, achieve that medal, THEN send the medal to their main. +1 to Maronu's suggestion. QQ int bonus on Myrmiderp.

[hsidnomeL]

No, I think Maronu is saying making the medals tradable so people can make an alt, achieve that medal, THEN send the medal to their main. +1 to Maronu's suggestion. QQ int bonus on Myrmiderp.

I see... I was confused because of this:

I believe there was a version of Dragonica that sent the medals you obtained in the mail, and you had to get them out and click on them in your inventory in order to get it. My suggestion is to have the 3 missable medals sent to players in the mail as an item that you can use to get the medal.

I thought he meant old players just get the medal. If you can make an alt to get the medal then send it to your main, I don't see a problem. Though then you run into players making new characters and giving them high powered medals to level with... which is a bit unfair too.

[Maronu]

I see... I was confused because of this:

I thought he meant old players just get the medal. If you can make an alt to get the medal then send it to your main, I don't see a problem. Though then you run into players making new characters and giving them high powered medals to level with... which is a bit unfair too.

No freebies. I still think you should have to obtain the medal. When I said they should be sent in the mail, I didn't mean sent to everyone regardless of if they met the requirements or not. I just meant that once you get it you should receive it as an item that you can use (after use it would be added to your journal) or trade, instead of having it automatically added to your journal.

The only possible downside is that people could also buy the medals from other players, but at least everyone would be able to get them with a bit of effort. Players shouldn't have to quite their main characters and make new ones just for a chance to be on the leader bored for achievement points.

[Urikashima]

I think what the problem is: "these medals didn't exist in Dragonica." When it became Dragon Saga, these medals were put in, making it impossible for an older character, who has already made their job change and received a lot of time and effort to make them who they are, to get these medals.

Thus the suggestion, if I read it right, was to allow those that would have obtained the medal due to fulfilling the requirements in the old game, to get it now, since it's apparently available.

If that wasn't the suggestion, that I suggest my suggestion be suggested to your suggestions. Think i said 'Suggestions' enough?

[Tundra]

It'd be smarter if they just allowed the achievement thing to automatically detect when something was done.

IE:
Character is level 60? Did all the job changes?! Well damn, looks like you get these medals even if they didn't exist before you did the job change!

[Maronu]

It'd be smarter if they just allowed the achievement thing to automatically detect when something was done.

IE:
Character is level 60? Did all the job changes?! Well damn, looks like you get these medals even if they didn't exist before you did the job change!

Actually that sort of makes sense. We did already have our class advancement before the end of the first day of playing Gravity's version of the game.

[Confusion]

i tried going for 10% hp and ended up with 10% evade ? evade is okay but i have more fun with solid defensive stats.

may be they can let us choose the stat we want and we can fill the character cards correctly?

or let us choose 1 stat and have another depending on character cards

or do overs


i do think the character cards are a fun idea but most people are gonna lie on em or not get a satisfying stat