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[pandaranger]

so i was thinking about getting a RWC knife for my melee ninja but is it even worth it without the ring? enriched is here till jan 2nd so i could probably at least get it +9 but i know i don't have 99 extra mil for the ring. thanks for any replies in advance ^_^

Edited by pandaranger, 29 December 2013 - 05:59 PM.

[iDaehyun]

Without ring then I believe Grimtooth will make a better choice, cheaper, easier to get, higher ATK, can be Malangdo Enchanted.

Edited by iDaehyun, 29 December 2013 - 06:04 PM.

[pandaranger]

ah ok. well i was gonna go for that instead of an ice pick for my 2nd wep cause picks are just so expensive.

[DrAzzy]

At +9, the GT beats the RWC + Ring vs small, RWC+Ring wins by small margin vs medium, and by a large margin vs large. RWC knife without ring gets completely dominated by GT. Considering the difference in cost, this is rather disappointing for fans of the RWC weapons. They really shine at +12 when paired with accessory...

 

Both are lvl 4 weaps at +9, and neither of them modify str/dex/luk so we can drop out satk while comparing them; we end up comparing:

 

180 watk 

 

vs 

 

50 watk + ([9/3]*20+9*10) eatk -> 50 watk + 150 eatk + 10% physical

 

Now assume 100 str...

 

180*1.5 = 270

 

270 vs small

135 vs large (ouch!)

 

vs 

 

((50*1.5=)75+150)*1.1 = 225*1.1 = 247.5 vs small

((25*1.5=)37.5+150)*1.1 = 187.5*1.1 = 206.25

 

Now let's enchant the grimtooth, and card the RWC knife. 

 

You get 42 atk from enchants on GT: 

 

312 vs small

242 vs medium

172 vs large

 

And 27.5 atk from hillslion card (assuming you're going for general use weapon - 25*1.1)

 

275 vs small

254 vs medium

233.75 vs large

 

Without the ring, those numbers would be:

209 vs small

188 vs medium

166.75 vs large

 

At +12:

 

With Ring:

330

309

288.75

 

Without:

231 vs small

210 vs medium

188.75 vs large

 

Hence, even at +12, the GT is better than the RWC knife w/out ring, except by small margin vs large targets.

Edited by DrAzzy, 29 December 2013 - 06:29 PM.

[pandaranger]

so it's better for me to use 2 gtimtooths on my ninja until i can save for an ice pick? the big downside to GT is that it halves ur defense right?

[twodaysago]

rwc weapons are lv 3

[DonatoX]

Yes

[Facekiller]

so it's better for me to use 2 gtimtooths on my ninja until i can save for an ice pick? the big downside to GT is that it halves ur defense right?

 

i wouldnt suggest a second GT... you be better off with damage+ cards on a MG since the offhand weapon doesnt effect skills.... even tho your going melee Archer Skeleton cards will help since half the melee ninjas skills are considered ranged (cross slash, KS, KE)... a quad Kingbird MG will be far better at least until you get your icepick (and then youll want EA enchants for the added damage on ranged skills)
 

[pandaranger]

well i just got a RWC box so i have the pendant and ring i just now need a RWC knife >_< i need to find one before jan 2nd cause then enriched goes away >_<