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#1 Winterdrop

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 07:39 AM

Well. How are we? c:

 

I have seen posts about our heals getting fixed.

But the hits/crits are still bad.

 

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 11:06 AM

Skill resets are still in Kafra.. so we can still play around with skills.
Earth Emblem works correctly, LoR... I don't even remember how much it healed before AoV, but I think it's been fixed? It's not healing for 100s at least. Deluge, same thing, I don't really remember but it seems alright

Max Fireball... yes fireball, did a 1k DoT for me, and my Chaos weapon isn't upgraded.

I didn't bother trying LB, that proc rate for DoT sucks.

 

Aqua is still missing 100% of the time.

 

Couldn't really try out more, I got class to go to xD

 

 


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#3 Winterdrop

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 11:13 AM

Max Fireball... yes fireball, did a 1k DoT for me, and my Chaos weapon isn't upgraded.

 

Aqua is still missing 100% of the time.

 

So .. We going fireball sorcerers now? :o

 

And wow .. My Aqua has been so useless. They haven't even fixed it. :<


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 06:29 AM

Healing we have been nerfed, since our preAOV days, but our damage as gone up. With blitz buff, frozen damage, and ymir we can hit 20k on a 50mob. So damage wise are great, however, because we can't hit anyone over level 5 in the colosseum, that won't translate well, so spend most of your time ready to switch to earth emblem to heal off random damage you obtain. Our dps isn't keeping up with the rest of the dps players, regardless of what you do, so don't try, and yea I noticed yesterday that Aqua was missing everything. 

SP cost are still high so i haven't put JT above 3, the extra damage doesn't truly help your overall DPS especially when you are enhaling 80pots a CD.


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 06:43 AM

I was wondering if the AGI stat is still unbalanced especially on the magic based class since we got the new patch.


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#6 Winterdrop

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 07:31 AM

I actually like my sorcerer now better.

When I do chaos runs, my threat goes just under the tanks.

I just burn blue pots like crazy.

 

And I use all AGI on mine.


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 05:56 PM

can you list your gears and etc cause my threat remains with the priest. i have full chaos gear and cant do anything to gain threat or dps. 


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:19 AM

can you list your gears and etc cause my threat remains with the priest. i have full chaos gear and cant do anything to gain threat or dps. 

 

I have all chaos except for pants.

My cards are all Culvert Band of Abyss [N+] - I'm not sure on this one.

I am using a GreenSeed Chaos staff.

 

All my gear has +7 AGI runes in them except for the weapon.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:50 AM

can you list your gears and etc cause my threat remains with the priest. i have full chaos gear and cant do anything to gain threat or dps.


Because Winter cheats!

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 11:11 AM

Because Winter cheats!

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._. Define cheats.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 11:58 AM

I think he means using max fireball and +15 staffs is cheating.


Edited by NuwaChan, 14 January 2014 - 12:01 PM.

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 12:02 PM

I think he means using max fireball and +15 staffs is cheating.

 

Well i have a +1 staff with un-punched rune holes.

How exactly am I cheating - 3-


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 03:17 PM

Well i have a +1 staff with un-punched rune holes.
How exactly am I cheating - 3-


Because I'm joking around. :3

But yeah, Fire Ball is too strong right now.
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Posted 12 February 2014 - 11:38 AM

Just one question:

 

How can I build a good skill tree for a Sorcerer??


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 01:59 PM

is there some update guide for sor?

 

I just change to sor now, but is very difficult find a good guide, coz with the patch all change.

so, can someone post some update? we use fire now?

pls someone help me for make a decent build. not FS. 

i want hybrid, some nice dps+suport. but i like solo too, but idk if go to water or fire o.O im confuced before read lots of diferents guides TT_TT

 

 

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edit: Also, what about stats?? 


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:33 PM

^ please anyone x_x


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:35 PM

Just one question:

 

How can I build a good skill tree for a Sorcerer??

 

It depends on what build you are going for - FS | DPS | Hybrid

 

is there some update guide for sor?

 

I just change to sor now, but is very difficult find a good guide, coz with the patch all change.

so, can someone post some update? we use fire now?

pls someone help me for make a decent build. not FS. 

i want hybrid, some nice dps+suport. but i like solo too, but idk if go to water or fire o.O im confuced before read lots of diferents guides TT_TT

 

 

ty

 

edit: Also, what about stats?? 

 

^ I pm-ed you.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:44 PM

It depends on what build you are going for - FS | DPS | Hybrid

 

 

^ I pm-ed you.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 05:23 AM

The way our healing and matk calulations are now, you need a few more skill points into healing to be a better healer. Before, a hybrid could potentially heal and dps quite nicely, now its not so much anymore. However going FS loses out DPS and vice versa. Most people are still choosing Hybrid. It depends on the person if they want to choose more healing or more dps. I've been using a hybrid/dps build thus far saving my last 8 points. With the master lvl 20, thats save 28 points total.

 

Cold Bolt - 1

Frost Diver - 1 This depends on your personal preference. Yes for individual or PvP, others say no because all bosses are immune and AoE is the way to go.

Water Emblem - 5 This is what I currently use, but I've talk to much higher lvl than I (full geared Osiris) and they don't seem to use this much with around 7-9k sp.

***While AoEing, I use this emblem and I never run out of sp in a grind party. I don't use pots either. LoV takes around 175sp lvl 6***

Summon Aqua - 1 This skill is still missing a lot I think?

Healing Wave - 1

 

Lightning Bolt - 1

Thunderstorm - 1

Wind Emblem - 5 Of course for dps/hybrid!

Jupitel Thunder - 3

Jupitel Thunder Mastery - 1

Memorize - 1

Lord of Vermillion - 1 Again, personal preference and if you don't have a great party, most people max so they can grind to master lvl 20.

Vaetyr Spear - 5 (I'm too old fashion to lose my spear, keep at lvl 1 if you want lol)

 

***Lvl 6 JT is 896% matk while lvl 5 Spear is 800% matk*** 

 

Earth Emblem - 5

Soul Bind - 1

Rejuvenation - 1

Earth Shield - 5 (yes so this is your class buff and I think more important than pre AoV)

Land of Recovery - 1

 

Ymir - 3 (used for movement speed and additional dps vs bosses thus far, again totally optional)

 

This build is the way it is because I can't decide if I want to grind via healing or AoE thus the last 8 points aren't used yet. Currently Deluge has absolutely no use what so ever. If its "needed" while grinding, then something definitely needs to change (I've heard that before). I guess my ultimate ML lvl 20 with all points grinded out with be:

 

Cold Bolt - 5                               Earth Emblem - 5                             Lightning Bolt - 1

Frost Diver - 3                            Soul Bind - 1                                   Thunderstorm - 1

Water Emblem - 5                      Rejuvenation - 3                              Wind Emblem - 5 

Summon Aqua - 1                       Earth Shield - 5                              Jupitel Thunder - 6

Healing Wave - 3                        Land of Recovery - 5                      Jupitel Thunder Mastery - 2

Soul Cleanse - 1                                                                                Memorize - 1

Meditation - 1                                  Ymir - 3                                      Lord of Vermillion - 6

Deluge - 1 (maybe useful soon?)                                                      Vaetyr Spear - 5 

 

***There are 2 skill points left over because I haven't decided on lvl 5 HW or lvl 5 Reju***

 

1) I have yet to find a good reason to invest in our new post-AoV DoT: Shock. Thus far as proved to be inflicted after many LB and barely stays at all. (you can't keep up the Shock DoT before it runs out unless you just spam LB even then x.x) This was tested before the DoT % went down so I don't even know how much dmg it does now. So this makes getting past lvl 2 JTM and investing in LB not worth it. (between lvl 2 and lvl 3 is 2% difference, nope)

2) I have not tested any Osiris gears or ML 20 to be able to prove the above skill build is good. I might end up changing it.

3) This is before the 2/19 update that is "suppose" to improve magic classes and our skills potentially. I'm very curious to see how this goes. ^-^


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#20 Henin1987

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 07:30 AM

Please need a hybrid sorc build and stats.


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 07:49 AM

The way our healing and matk calulations are now, you need a few more skill points into healing to be a better healer. Before, a hybrid could potentially heal and dps quite nicely, now its not so much anymore. However going FS loses out DPS and vice versa. Most people are still choosing Hybrid. It depends on the person if they want to choose more healing or more dps. I've been using a hybrid/dps build thus far saving my last 8 points. With the master lvl 20, thats save 28 points total.

 

1) I have yet to find a good reason to invest in our new post-AoV DoT: Shock. Thus far as proved to be inflicted after many LB and barely stays at all. (you can't keep up the Shock DoT before it runs out unless you just spam LB even then x.x) This was tested before the DoT % went down so I don't even know how much dmg it does now. So this makes getting past lvl 2 JTM and investing in LB not worth it. (between lvl 2 and lvl 3 is 2% difference, nope)

2) I have not tested any Osiris gears or ML 20 to be able to prove the above skill build is good. I might end up changing it.

3) This is before the 2/19 update that is "suppose" to improve magic classes and our skills potentially. I'm very curious to see how this goes. ^-^

 

I tried investing points on Lightning Bolt when we still had the "free" skill resets and I didn't like how the dot barely works. So I just left it as 1/10.

 

I like my build atm, hybrid, yes.

I can heal decent while in pvp/pve.

 

I do wonder how this patch would go. If the magic classes ARE fixed, i'll be Gravity's slave for an hour. Jk :D


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:42 AM

I like my build atm, hybrid, yes.

I can heal decent while in pvp/pve.

 

Well if you say you like your Hybrid build could you please share it? xD


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:09 PM

Well if you say you like your Hybrid build could you please share it? xD

 

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:56 PM

Can I get your build also? I have a build right now that is okay, but just curious as to what you use since you seem to be doing good threat and I think mine still needs some work.

I was only around for a week of the "free" skill resets because I took a break from the game for a few months and so the build I have now needs some work.


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:57 PM

Could I also get your hybrid build? Thanks c:


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