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[Kieri]

Yes afk all day on WL.

[Memoir]

Then what r other classes for? Just so ppl can sit there and afk like my warlock?

I don't get why would you make something then just sit and afk. I'm pretty sure you know what each class is capable of.

[thatfool]

I see. Thats very balance and no work needs to be done there.

[D111]

I always thought that if you want to compete on mvping against genes, then make a gene?
It's also the time that you put into it.
I seriously wake up early in the morning sometimes just to MVP. Because that's usually when I get to have MVP on my own. If anything i just think that one person can't camp a MVP 24/7. Like to have it for them everytime it spawns. But either way. If its competition against a gene then make a gene.

 

Do you guys really think I don't have a genetic?

 

Seriously.

 

Why should I have to play one, why should one character be the sole MVP God?

 

Reduce the cooldown or at least allow us to regen sp but not cast G-fist for 10 seconds.

 

 

[Kieri]

You know I find it hard for us to disagree on everything I post,

 

So the impression I get from you is that every time I post or make a thread, you find a way to post something to spur a disagreement.

 

Now I feel this way, due to the drama between our guilds.

 

Which I have said repeatedly I wish you would just drop.

 

If you don't hate, then prove me wrong.

 

Back me up on something now and again.

 

Because I really find it hard to believe you truly disagree with me on everything I post.

I don't post a reply to things you post unless they're very misinformed and why would I back you up on something that I disagree with or agree with depending on the thread that's just illogical. Stop taking it out of context and exaggerating it "everything I post" Yes I have totally disagreed with 4303 posts of yours. I don't agree with certain posts you make so I make it clear exactly how I would make it clear if it was someone else posting it get over it.

[D111]

He made a lot of decisions people were very unhappy with and it showed (heim).

I don't think anyone hates you... They just don't agree with you.

I'd say debating back and forth is pretty productive. It means people are paying attention. Smile and don't let it get under your skin, just make logical points you can back up and then sit back and don't worry about it, you're allowed to have an opinion so no sense getting upset!

Lighten up guys

 

I feel ya.

[Memoir]

I also don't get why would you complain about competition against genetics when you have one. I'm pretty sure there are MVPs that can be one shotted by gfist which makes it a better competition against a gene

[D111]

I don't post a reply to things you post unless they're very misinformed and why would I back you up on something that I disagree with or agree with depending on the thread that's just illogical. Stop taking it out of context and exaggerating it "everything I post" Yes I have totally disagreed with 4303 posts of yours. I don't agree with certain posts you make so I make it clear exactly how I would make it clear if it was someone else posting it get over it.

 

Sure,

 

I know you are 1000 time smarter than I,

 

What do I know, I am just an ignorant immeasurable being shivering at your feet.

[D111]

I also don't get why would you complain about competition against genetics when you have one. I'm pretty sure there are MVPs that can be one shotted by gfist which makes it a better competition against a gene

 

The point is, to people that main a Sura,

 

MVP prerenewal on a champion

 

They think the cooldown is unfair.

 

Yes I can kill MVPs on a genetic, but why should i have to.

 

The Sura should be able to be utilized as an option, not just an MS tank.

[thatfool]

I also don't get why would you complain about competition against genetics when you have one. I'm pretty sure there are MVPs that can be one shotted by gfist which makes it a better competition against a gene

Nothing wrong with that, totally perfect picture and balanced.

[Memoir]

Then if that's the case. My wanderer can't compete against any class in mvping.

My whole point is that iro needs to stop custom changes.

[Memoir]

That's the thing. It's iro. There might be a change.
If ppl qq enough...

Edited by Memoir, 04 March 2014 - 04:33 PM.

[D111]

Then if that's the case. My wanderer can't compete against any class in mvping.

My whole point is that iro needs to stop custom changes.

 

You know I can agree the Wanderer needs buffed.

 

Not that it should be an MVP killer, it Never was prerenewal.

 

The Sura was a killer and now is handicaped.

 

The Champion and Alchemist always competed prerenewal.

 

Now it is an all out Genetic show, I am just asking that the balance be restored.

[thatfool]

To put it, genes are too imba compare to all the othet classes.

Champs used to be able to compete, but now they are so behind that the logical thing for them to do when they find an mvp is that, drop on the floor, grab popcorn and wait for that gene to come and kill it.(im being sarcastic but serious, chance r a gene will come and take the mvp from u)

Edited by thatfool, 04 March 2014 - 04:40 PM.

[Kadelia]

The point is, to people that main a Sura,

MVP prerenewal on a champion

They think the cooldown is unfair.

Yes I can kill MVPs on a genetic, but why should i have to.

The Sura should be able to be utilized as an option, not just an MS tank.

I thi nk you are making the wrong arguement. Sura is 2nd to gene. Yes. But every other class is a DISTANT 3rd or worse. You're making a biased arguement only. Atm sura is still competitive, even against a gene. A sura that hits first is almost guaranteed the mvp. Also sura can 1 shot most of the mvps with a good setup, so the rate of fire from sp nerf is irrelevant.

We should be arguing to nerf acid bomb and gfist further so other classes can compete.

[Kieri]

You take everything so offensively, but w/e sure why not. I gave feedback to your posts and others and my own posts to add MY opinion to the thread and yet you are just attacking those who disagree with you and taking things out of context, claiming that they're haters for disagreeing with you etc. One of the points to a good discussion/argument is to and stay away from using any ad hominem in it. Either way I've given my opinion and I'm done here it is pointless trying to get a worthwhile discussion.

Edited by Kieri, 04 March 2014 - 04:41 PM.

[kerolneko]

They plan on derailing and discouraging the threads productivity.
 
One of them has hated Suras since renewal hit, Jaye.

 
so having people who main sura classes and/or hate gen only allowed to to give feedback? Nice discussion you have here.
-close thread-

I thi nk you are making the wrong arguement. Sura is 2nd to gene. Yes. But every other class is a DISTANT 3rd or worse. You're making a biased arguement only. Atm sura is still competitive, even against a gene. A sura that hits first is almost guaranteed the mvp. Also sura can 1 shot most of the mvps with a good setup, so the rate of fire from sp nerf is irrelevant.

We should be arguing to nerf acid bomb and gfist further so other classes can compete.

+1

Edited by kerolneko, 04 March 2014 - 04:43 PM.

[D111]

Bye.

[thatfool]

I thi nk you are making the wrong arguement. Sura is 2nd to gene. Yes. But every other class is a DISTANT 3rd or worse. You're making a biased arguement only. Atm sura is still competitive, even against a gene. A sura that hits first is almost guaranteed the mvp. Also sura can 1 shot most of the mvps with a good setup, so the rate of fire from sp nerf is irrelevant.

We should be arguing to nerf acid bomb and gfist further so other classes can compete.

Genes are also at a distance laughing at all the suras

[D111]

Look I am not the one always editing my posts, I say what I mean and feel.

 

If you can't handle that maybe you should ignore me.

[miliardo]

im actually ok with it being fixed in pvm status but do not want the fix to happen in pvp woe situation would make suras almost impossible to kill cause of non stop mobility.

 

as of now they can g fist but then they cant snap away making you able to use trapping skills to stop. Removing the sp cd would make to where could g fist then snap away making it very difficult class to fight in woe/pvp and would bring rise of suras again lol

Edited by miliardo, 04 March 2014 - 04:51 PM.

[D111]

 
so having people who main sura classes and/or hate gen only allowed to to give feedback? Nice discussion you have here.
-close thread-


+1

 

I welcome other opinions to the thread.

 

However I just feel and maybe I am wrong that the two people I have been arguing with do this in every thread I post or make.

 

Just a little tired of it and felt like calling them out on it.
 

[thatfool]

Seriously, whats the problem? So what gfist does a -_- ton of damage, ppl are acting like genes arent dropping mvps in few seconds

[Erydanos]

I main a Sura...my second char is a Gen. I love both and I plan to MvP with both.  I've seen videos where Sura's can MvP w/o GFist (though I admit they're doing instances so there's really no competition for the MvP)

 

And I agree...kRO has iRO in some sort of limbo...if they like an idea iRO pitched to them, it might take a long time to even have it implemented here. I'd say try to do your best with what you've got.

 

And...as a total stranger to whatever feud you have with whatever guild/player...you don't need to call it out in your thread D[][][]...it only derails it and makes you look unproffessional.

[meli]

Some classes are meant to be better than others at mvping /end