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[Hardc0re]

I've never played Ragnarok, i'm still deciding wich class to play.

Unfortunately, even the game being as old as it is, it's impossible to find reliable and trustable information on the internet.

 

My question is really simple:

-Assassin has the "Enchant Poison" skill

-Assassin X has EDP

-GX has Poisonous Weapon

 

I noticed that the Assassin poison only applies regular poison, EDP gives a nice damage boost, and Poisonous Weapon poisons are more "support". So basically the Assassin's one is fairly useless...

 

So, the question: Can I have all of these 3 different poison types at the same time on my weapons? Or do I need to chose between EDP poison or Poisonous Weapon poison?

Edited by Hardc0re, 19 March 2014 - 09:55 AM.

[MinJo]

yes u can have all three poison enchant at the same time

[Hardc0re]

Are the effects on irowiki correct/updated?

 

Spoiler

Level 1: Paralyze A paralyzing poison.
For 300 seconds, decreases attack speed by -10%, evasion -10%, and movement speed by 1/2.
Weight: 2

Level 2: Pyrexia A poison that causes a high fever.
For 300 seconds, causes incurable blindness and causes the player to see illusions. Sometimes causes 100 damage which can interupt casting of skills.
Weight: 2 Only causes Blindness no confusion effect.
Blindness of screen is only lasts 30 secs reduced by stats and can be cured. 25% flee and -25 hit penalty remains till poison is removed. Even if Poison is removed Blindness remains till the 30s ends. Damage is once every 3s. Interupts casting.

Level 3: Disheart A poison that slows healing. For 300 seconds, drops the effectiveness of recovery on the target by 20%. This effect stacks with critical wounds. Weight: 2 Reduces Heal and etc. Don't know about potions as they vary quite a bit.

Level 4: Leech End A poison created with leeches. For 300 seconds, drains HP every second Damage done by Leech End : (Maxhp/100)-(Armordef+Statusdef) Weight: 2 Interupts casting. Des not bypass Phen. New damage formula: [HP/100+vit*2] on a GX and [HP/100-3xVit] on other Classes and Monsters.

Level 5: Antidote
Item Catalyst for the skill Antidote Weight: 0

Level 6: Venom Bleed A poison that lowers the strength of a person.
For 15 seconds, reduces MaxHP by 15%. Weight: 2 It lasts 300s instead of the stated 15s.

Level 7: Magic Mushroom A poison made with the dillusional effects of magic mushrooms.
For 300 seconds, every 4 seconds you lose 3% of your HP and involuntarially cast a random skill. Weight: 2 Skills that are autocasted by Magic Mushroom: Resistant souls, Power maximize, Improve conc, Backslide,Tatami flip, Cicada skin shedding, Sight, Endure, Hammerfall, Frost Joke or Dazzler, Flip Coin, Pick stone, Backslide, Angelus, Auto counter, Ruwach, Energy coat, Magnificat, Signum Crucis, Magnum break, First Aid, Summon spirit sphere, Auto guard If you are already casting a skill it will cancel that casting to cast a new spell. Power Maximization from this poison is bugged is doesn't work or drain SP.

Level 8: Toxin A nerve paralyzing poison.
For 300 seconds, every 3 seconds it causes the damage motion on your character, interrupting any skills. Skills not interrupted do not receive the effects of your weapon or cards. Weight: 2 Damage is now only every 10s even if description says 3. Drains 3% SP every 10 secs. As stated before bypasses phen effect.

Level 9: Oblivion Curse A poison that causes loss of memory.
For 300 seconds causes the target to suffer from amnesia. While in amnesia it blocks natural SP recovery, and cannot be canceled via lex divinia or green potion. While in this status you cannot use any skills. Weight: 2 Int reduces chance of Curse by Int/125. Int has no effect on duration.

Do some of these poisons not work on PvP/WoE by any means? Because everytime I find a cool class I do some research and they can't use their cool skills on PvP...

I'm specially interested on the level 2 and 9 poisons.

 

Level 2 poison states that the blindess is incurable on the first paragraph, and then says it can be cured on the second paragraph... Wich one is true?

[MinJo]

first yes u can use this skill in pvp. i personally like to use pyrexia too. most uses poison in pvp scenario are oblivion curse and leech end.

 

as for ur second question, i think what its mean is even if the blind effect where the screen goes black is cured by any mean except  GX antidote, the poison effects still remain

Edited by MinJo, 19 March 2014 - 11:54 AM.

[Kandine]

Assassin's Enchant Poison is still useful, even if you're already a GX. It gives a decent damage boost from monsters that are weak to poison*. And it gives you roughly 50% total damage boost when hitting a poison weak mob with a GX skill, Venom Impression at max level.

 

It also stacks with EDP and still gives you a good chunk of damage boost to those weak to Poison.

 

Heres a vid with Enchant Poison and Venom Impression against an MVP: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Jmr-WorvZOc

 

Also, monsters that are poisoned (poison status effect) receives more damage from any attacks (maybe except Soul Destroyer, not sure) than when they are not poisoned. Not sure how much % of damage is that though.

 

Lastly, EDP requires a poison bottle, and Poisonous Weapon also requires a specific item, both skills require zenny to use. Enchant Poison requires 0 zenny to use, and you will need it as a prerequisite for a SinX skill, so you will be dumping at least 5 or 6 points into it. Requiring zenny meaning, you need to either buy them from vend since I doubt you will have fun creating those items instead since your build will be most likely not specified for creating them, specially for Poison Bottles.

 

Monsters that are weak to Poison* element: Earth, Wind, and Fire element monsters. Poison element deals about 25% more damage to those three elements.

 

The only time Enchant Poison will be "useless" is when you have a gazillion zenny to spend since you will most likely use an Elemental Katar or Elemental Converter for your elemental needs. For a player that is unfunded or just starting out from scratch, Enchant Poison is far from being useless.

Edited by Kandine, 19 March 2014 - 03:24 PM.

[Auarion]

Yes, you can have all three at the same time. Here is the difference, in few words:

 

Enchant poison: Adds poison ELEMENT to your weapon for some time. Can be overwritten with a converter or some other buff.

 

Enchant deadly poison: Consumes poison bottle. This is an enormous attack buff. It doesn't change your current element. By the time you are GX past 110, you need to use EDP like rangers use arrows. On the plus side, you will be able to solo all three levels of TI.

 

New poison research: Each gives you a new poison which you can create a corresponding CATALYST for. The useful ones are pyrexia, leech end, antidote, and oblivion curse. Each also adds 3 seconds to your EDP duration, up from its base of 1 minute.

 

Poisonous Weapon: This consumes 1 poison CATALYST of your choice. For 5 mins, your REGULAR attacks have a chance of putting the poison's effect on the enemy.

 

Venom Pressure: You need to have poisonous weapon active to use venom pressure. It's a melee skill with a 95% chance of inflicting poison on the enemy, useful when you need speed. Using it deactivates poisonous weapon. The damage ranges from slightly higher than cross impact to extremely OP 170k+ hits depending on what enemy you're fighting, but how it works exactly hasn't been researched much.

 

Poison smoke: You need to have poisonous weapon active. It's an AoE ground skill that puts a 5x5 poison cloud on the floor. Enemies who walk in it might be poisoned. You do *not* lose poisonous weapon status for using it, but it isn't spammable. You have to wait till your poison cloud disappears before putting down another. It has about a 3 second cast time.