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#251 Gn1ydnu

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:55 AM

don't forget using elemental converters as well!

 

Wait for double attack from BC before gfist!

 


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:56 AM

remember to double the phen just in case one fails


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 11:00 AM

they could use bsb also


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 12:52 PM

Champs with full gear (no bryn) 1 shot everything on previous servers already. The only exceptions would be GR/DR, and LK with a CK.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 04:24 PM

I feel like this thread would be empty if all posts with logical fallacies were deleted
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#256 MattyL904

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 04:50 PM

What about the posts made by a guy wanting to be a girl?


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 05:12 PM

Well I must be wrong, but no I didn't teach my guild that.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 07:26 PM

What about the posts made by a guy wanting to be a girl?

 

I don't want to be a girl. I want to be a princess.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:08 PM

Sad I didn't see Princess Viri at Sakuracon =/

 


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 06:14 AM

I was in artist alley helping friends sell -_- like 99% of the con lol
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Posted 25 April 2014 - 07:49 AM

I'll go back to a post that made sense before we derailed. This was estimated for April. Please put it in. Your efforts should not be focused on changing existing content that worked. If you want to make custom changes please release the content and then make new custom content. Leave what worked alone.

Looking for a GM response now. Is there an ETA on this release?
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#262 Xellie

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:15 AM

I'll go back to a post that made sense before we derailed. This was estimated for April. Please put it in. Your efforts should not be focused on changing existing content that worked. If you want to make custom changes please release the content and then make new custom content. Leave what worked alone.

Looking for a GM response now. Is there an ETA on this release?

 

"lets take something that worked on a different server with different gear available, with different base rates and 10x the population and put it in as is"

 

What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

 

This might not have occurred to many people, but there was a reason that renewal eventually had to be put in.

 

SM is going to have an extremely small lifespan in terms of profitability. I've been thinking this over a few weeks now in terms of, do I make a party to comp it or no?

 

So I thought well who would my customers be?

 

The dark Bacillum is essentially only an aesthetic headgear due to parade hat/slot mids/pencil. A few will sell and maybe it'll take the place of the poor mans slotted mid. It's like hunting crowns or tiaras when you get down to thinking about it.

 

Dboots are decent. But with only 3 active guilds on the server that leaves a customer base of ~2 guilds or approx 50 people not including my own people. As far as the fact that most people WoE only, immediately rule out the bg set classes. That is a lot of people. So maybe those will be good for 2 months, but good enough to not just buy and hunt something more worthwhile? Lets think about the rest.

 

Drobe. Assuming each guild has ~ 5 champs that's a customer base of around 15-30 people. I'm sure they'll upgrade. A few priests might want it, not enough people really pvm/pvp to make an impact on that in terms of priest buying them.

 

D Armor. Lol. Why would anyone bother when there's so many bryns/free bg armors for those stats?

 

Personally I would suggest the D.Bac needs some kind of buff to make the MVP more desirable.

 

The SM map was constantly being "fixed" from the day it was put in. From people bugging the quest so nobody else could comp, the change of spawn in, the sp nerf. It was like a map that was constantly in beta and pretty darned annoying. I'm glad they're going to at least think about these things once over because it was stupid before with how it kept having to be changed after implementation.

 

 

I think back to SM on the old server and I remember a group icewalling monsters on to the spawn point. I remember a group icewalling the loot from the mvpers without them ever attempting to engage the mvp. I remember them only ever being dealt with once and souring the party who were trying to hunt it into really not wanting to bother with RO much anymore.

I remember being mobbed with eske'd mobs, dbed, bbed, looted b/c of icewall.

 

And one of those times was by someone trying to portal fist it; they logged off their mvp char and spent 2 hours purely griefing. I'd like to know what is fun about playing against that.


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 12:51 PM

Deal with it. It's going to happen. Report it and hope it gets taken care of.

Your pointing out valk server but keep in mind this update wasn't shunned on existing servers like chaos and Loki which sported player bases of maybe 150 after vends?

Renewal was not implemented because of a lacking player database and these items being devalued but instead because it was the direction that kRO decided to try and modernize the game (created far more problems but this isn't the thread for that).

IRO is notorious for making bad custom changes to try and fix issues that in the long run don't really change anything. The Morroc changes were iRO specific and they were and still are bad changes.

Satan Mistress
4 angel mob debacle
Changed spawn on MAP 1 only with a half SP and only on this map.

There are many other ways to grief other than an esked mob and ice wall.

If you couldn't figure out a way to deal with your loot being ice walled you probably were not killing the MVP with a party either.

No items need buffs they have their benefits and they will always hold value no matter how many exist. It's the same with all other top tier items in this game.

If you still disagree then B>valk armor 5 mil and B> variant shoes 5 mil. Seems fair to me as the are selling so slow.
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Posted 25 April 2014 - 01:04 PM

theories flying everywhere

 

just implement it and end all these speculation of what will happen to the market


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 01:14 PM

Deal with it. It's going to happen. Report it and hope it gets taken care of.

Your pointing out valk server but keep in mind this update wasn't shunned on existing servers like chaos and Loki which sported player bases of maybe 150 after vends?

Renewal was not implemented because of a lacking player database and these items being devalued but instead because it was the direction that kRO decided to try and modernize the game (created far more problems but this isn't the thread for that).

IRO is notorious for making bad custom changes to try and fix issues that in the long run don't really change anything. The Morroc changes were iRO specific and they were and still are bad changes.

Satan Mistress
4 angel mob debacle
Changed spawn on MAP 1 only with a half SP and only on this map.

There are many other ways to grief other than an esked mob and ice wall.

If you couldn't figure out a way to deal with your loot being ice walled you probably were not killing the MVP with a party either.

No items need buffs they have their benefits and they will always hold value no matter how many exist. It's the same with all other top tier items in this game.

If you still disagree then B>valk armor 5 mil and B> variant shoes 5 mil. Seems fair to me as the are selling so slow.

 

Holy crap I never killed SM with a party of less than 12 and I'm from Chaos. The player base was higher than that. For a while Morroc was pretty much my party vs another party. Because we outnumbered the other party they would devote their lives to griefing.

You're assuming a lot from the experiences I described, but you weren't there. When that stuff happens repeatedly and it isn't dealt with, people quit. I do think that is something that needs to not be happening right now?

 

You're lacking some comprehension of the point I was making if you can't understand why Dark Bac is worth a lot less than was on Valk. On prems at least it served the purpose of poor mans sunnies, but guess what? we didn't have pencils etc back then, so yes here it is a lot less valuable. There are many people on this server who SM will have zero impact on beneficially.

 

My point about renewal was that pre-renewal RO wasn't a perfect, flawless working system either. There were some actual (sometimes large issues); that renewal in its own way did good things to address. A complete mechanics overhaul wasn't necessary, but all this nonsense about RO "working flawlessly" in the past is really sort of off the mark.

 


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 01:26 PM

Ppl with extremely rare gear have quit I myself play somewhere else that actually is a competive woe environment this server is just a cripple being dragged in the mud ur servers down to 3 guilds that have a +14 player attended woe might be time to hit the panic button
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#267 Xellie

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 02:06 PM

Ppl with extremely rare gear have quit I myself play somewhere else that actually is a competive woe environment this server is just a cripple being dragged in the mud ur servers down to 3 guilds that have a +14 player attended woe might be time to hit the panic button

 

So compete with my guild I don't get what is stopping you?

 

Do we need a Classic peace conference thread like the renewal one?


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 02:20 PM

I did my end you can Ask anyone in valk i was the most active since this server started and paid a good amount to this server to get stun immunity a year ago over 25k kp. pure p2w/ dragged out updates is all I see now plus ppl I talk to dont take this game seriously it's a hobby some dont want to re roll classes or learn. New things so that's why I left. :EDIT I actually mean they don't take this server seriously anymore posted from I phone deal with it

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#269 Xellie

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 02:30 PM

I did my end you can Ask anyone in valk i was the most active since this server started and paid a good amount to this server to get stun immunity a year ago over 25k kp. pure p2w/ dragged out updates is all I see now plus ppl I talk to dont take this game seriously it's a hobby some dont want to re roll classes or learn. New things so that's why I left. :EDIT I actually mean they don't take this server seriously anymore posted from I phone deal with it

 

I'm sorry, that sucks.

 

Some of us still enjoy it somewhat tho.
 


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 07:06 PM

I'll go back to a post that made sense before we derailed. This was estimated for April. Please put it in. Your efforts should not be focused on changing existing content that worked. If you want to make custom changes please release the content and then make new custom content. Leave what worked alone.

Looking for a GM response now. Is there an ETA on this release?

 

 

I agree just put it in.  Then IF (when) people start abusing Eske and you get backed up on tickets because of the skill then you can do a special maintenance to either ban all the abusers or remove the skill from the map.  Regardless of that just put in the content already please!


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 02:59 PM

http://forums.warppo...mentation-date/


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