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[elior901]

hi there everyone ! 

 

after the skills update i kinda stock because i dont know my raider stats skill which mean i cant train him....

 

Who could help me that would be nice... ty for now

[iMatt]

Hi elior,

 

first of all i reccommend every (katar) raider for pvp using glorious raptor sets - then ofc a katar - fv(epic) if you can afford it, otherwise use the exalted katar from dunegons as cheap but cost efficient solution.

 

but that is pretty all that katar-raiders have in common - skills gems stats depend on your playstyle and what you want to achieve with your raider.

 

if you can list what you want to play with your raider i can maybe give you advises.

[elior901]

I ment thet i need pvp raider but not the equipment ...i need acctually the list of skills from common/katar and raider... all guids are befor the update and

 

idk what to do... who can help with thet TY a lot

[jerremy]

Even if it is pvp, there are still other things to look out for. When it comes to pvp, will you mainly do 1v1's or group combat? What classes do you focus on fighting, or do you want to make a more all around build capable of fighting different classes?

Just tell matthias what it is you're looking for exactly, while I not exactly agree with him all the time, he knows what he's doing when it comes to builds for PvP.

[elior901]

If you tell the truth ... it does not really matter to me for my part will battle groups or fit everything what you think is best, I will accept it ....

[iMatt]

I will tell you now the list for an all round raider which can win 1on1s as be strong in clanwars:

 

Skills:

-ALL DAMAGE/defensive passives EXCLUDED common runspeed /mprecovery/ backpack/DEX

-NO selfbuffs

-offensive: Katar upper/BLIND(MAXED)/suckerpunch/mystic knife/cloack/stealth/venom knife (ofc maxed) - those which re not listed as max you can leave on lvl 1-2 depending on how mutch skill points you got left

-unique passives:fury/wired/raiders accordance

stats:

-dex above 300

-con above 250

-sen above 230

all left statpoints depending on where you like it like str for more hp, charm for stronger debuff effects or maybe sen / con for more crit or what ever....

items:

-Glorious raptor(Gemmed depending on your style:G7, J7, Ta7, D7, M7, or enchanted dex/con con/sen dex/sen)

-lava 50 40 / m7

-herban 25 50 / 50 40 / ta7 / d7

-raptor BS 50 40 / 25 50

-fv Ta7 / m7 / d7 / ench stones / 50 40 / 25 50 / g7 / j7

-4leaf or starglasses 25 50 / 50 40 / 60 40

 

as example

vs champs/mages/clerics

glor rap D7

fv 25 50

herban 25 50

Starglasses 25 50

raptor bs 25 50

 

or vs raiders

glor rap Ta7 /M7

fv ta7/m7

lava 50 40/m7

4leaf 50 40

raptor 50 40

 

....it all depends on how your opponent plays....when i see my enemy crits me to death i higher my crit in my itemmix - if i see my enemy dodges more but he hits me i go lava m7 or just more acc that i keep critting him - as you can see the ONE itembuild doesn t exist it more depends on reading your enemy using the correct skills and knowing how you have to use your regeneration like pots and food correctly - its nothing i can teach you in a single post its more about understanding mechanics and being flexible.

 

another mistake lots of raiders do is getting items with ASPEED. ASPEED is in my opinion one of the minor priorities on raider since you get more than enaugh from all passives so FOCUS on  CRIT ACC AP DODGE. warring raiders prefer higher dodge 1on1 raiders high charm soooooo i can t give you the ONE AND ONLY style i can just advice you to focus on your strengths and avoid your weaknesses (if you stand in the aoe of a berserked champ not even the best itembuild will help you.)

Edited by matthiashornauer, 12 April 2014 - 06:39 PM.

[elior901]

TY a lot for thet guide.... its very useful.. i unsderstood this char...thnaks for the build a lot!!!!

[deathy527]

I will tell you now the list for an all round raider which can win 1on1s as be strong in clanwars:

 

Skills:

-ALL DAMAGE/defensive passives EXCLUDED common runspeed /mprecovery/ backpack/DEX

-NO selfbuffs

-offensive: Katar upper/BLIND(MAXED)/suckerpunch/mystic knife/cloack/stealth/venom knife (ofc maxed) - those which re not listed as max you can leave on lvl 1-2 depending on how mutch skill points you got left

-unique passives:fury/wired/raiders accordance

stats:

-dex above 300

-con above 250

-sen above 230

all left statpoints depending on where you like it like str for more hp, charm for stronger debuff effects or maybe sen / con for more crit or what ever....

items:

-Glorious raptor(Gemmed depending on your style:G7, J7, Ta7, D7, M7, or enchanted dex/con con/sen dex/sen)

-lava 50 40 / m7

-herban 25 50 / 50 40 / ta7 / d7

-raptor BS 50 40 / 25 50

-fv Ta7 / m7 / d7 / ench stones / 50 40 / 25 50 / g7 / j7

-4leaf or starglasses 25 50 / 50 40 / 60 40

 

as example

vs champs/mages/clerics

glor rap D7

fv 25 50

herban 25 50

Starglasses 25 50

raptor bs 25 50

 

or vs raiders

glor rap Ta7 /M7

fv ta7/m7

lava 50 40/m7

4leaf 50 40

raptor 50 40

 

....it all depends on how your opponent plays....when i see my enemy crits me to death i higher my crit in my itemmix - if i see my enemy dodges more but he hits me i go lava m7 or just more acc that i keep critting him - as you can see the ONE itembuild doesn t exist it more depends on reading your enemy using the correct skills and knowing how you have to use your regeneration like pots and food correctly - its nothing i can teach you in a single post its more about understanding mechanics and being flexible.

 

another mistake lots of raiders do is getting items with ASPEED. ASPEED is in my opinion one of the minor priorities on raider since you get more than enaugh from all passives so FOCUS on  CRIT ACC AP DODGE. warring raiders prefer higher dodge 1on1 raiders high charm soooooo i can t give you the ONE AND ONLY style i can just advice you to focus on your strengths and avoid your weaknesses (if you stand in the aoe of a berserked champ not even the best itembuild will help you.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

plase take a screen shot of your katar raider skill build. I have no clue to what I am doing to my hawker T_T

Edited by deathy527, 26 May 2014 - 12:24 PM.

[iMatt]

add me ingame - it is not yet supposed to be spreaded on forums or give me an email i can send it to in PM

Edited by matthiashornauer, 26 May 2014 - 01:44 PM.

[Nudelhupf]

I dont like to create one more thread about a Raider Guide so i just use this one. I hope that's okay.
 
I took a long break and now i have no idea what i should do with all my stat- and skillpoints. With my forum research and the all round raider from iMatt i made this "plan" for my Raider:

Spoiler

 

I marked the skills i'm going to skill with a red number. To skill all the passives i need 180 of my 221 SP at level 230. 34 points for the actives and debuffs and 3 for the unique skills. After I learned everything I have 4 SP left. I think i will max Suckerpunch with them!?

Actually my Raider is 13x. Do i need other stats/skills to level or can i just complete my "plan". Is this even a good plan?^^

Is it needed to max 300 DEX only with my stats or can i reach them with my stats + equip?

Edited by Nudelhupf, 18 February 2015 - 04:40 AM.

[iMatt]

naja second sight nicht vergessen und dann müssten noch 2-3 punkte über bleiben - wired / fury / raiders accordance IM skills = must have

 

Edit: stats are personal prefernces - some prefer high acc others crit others AP/dodge (I am a fan of acc but that s up 2 every1 himself...)

Edited by iMatt, 18 February 2015 - 01:34 PM.

[Leeny]

Jeez people..this is so simple