12 replies to this topic

[Nifa]

I seem to have replied to several topics regarding this question, so I figured I'd just go ahead and make a guide to compile the things together.

 

My Specs: Fall 2009 MacBook Pro 15.4" 3.60 GHz 8GB running 10.6.8

 

You have several options for running ROSE (or any Windows program) on a Mac.

1. Dual Boot

2. Virtual Machine

3. WINE (Wine Is Not an Emulator) -- "a compatibility layer capable of running Windows applications on several POSIX-compliant operating systems, such as Linux, Mac OSX, & BSD. Instead of simulating internal Windows logic like a virtual machine or emulator, Wine translates Windows API calls into POSIX calls on-the-fly" (http://www.winehq.org/about/)

 

The three options are ranked in order of Best Performance, with Option 1 giving the best performance.

 

1. Dual Boot

Spoiler

Dual (or Triple or Multi if you have the Hard Drive space) Booting is the act of installing another Operating System on a computer such that you have the option to boot into a different OS from your default. In other words, if you're on a Mac, when you turn your computer on, you can have the option to boot into Windows like any other Windows computer. This method will give the best performance because it will allow you to run Windows programs natively on a Windows OS. 

 

Steps:

Here is Apple's official guide for installing Windows: 

https://help.apple.c.../mac/5.0/help/#

 

Note: This method is for installing via a Windows disc. If you want to install via USB, it is a bit more complicated. Might add it in later if I remember to.

 

1. Make a complete backup of your hard drive.

 

I suggest cloning the hard drive so that in the event that you completely wipe your hard drive, you can just paste your data back into place. Cloning your hard drive also lets you boot from it, which may be useful if you completely brick your hard drive. You will know if you cloned your hard drive correctly by having the ability to boot into it.

 

If you would rather opt for a normal Time Machine backup, that's ok too. It is probably slightly faster than cloning your hard drive, but it is not bootable.

 

Useful links:

Time Machine

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1427

How to clone your hard drive

http://eshop.macsale.../clon_data.html

Hard drive cloning software

http://www.bombich.com/

 

2. Partition your hard drive.

 

Partitioning your hard drive allows you to make a separate space on your hard drive solely for the use of the Windows side of the computer. The Windows OS goes there, and anything you do when booted into Windows will be saved over in the Windows partition.

 

As there are many guides out there that are much better instructors than I, I will just link a few.

 

Useful links:

How to Partition your Hard Drive

http://www.geek.com/...drive-1482555/ 

http://macs.about.co...utilitypart.htm

Deleting Partitions

http://www.macworld....osing-data.html

 

3. Install Windows (XP/7, not sure if 8 works)

 

After you've partitioned your hard drive, you should still have Boot Camp Assistant open. You can then insert your Windows CD and follow the instructions for installing Windows.

 

How to install Windows 7

http://www.pcworld.com/article/249059/how_to_install_boot_camp_and_run_windows_on_your_mac.html

http://www.digitaltr...an-imac/#!G05px

 

4. Install ROSE

 

Just follow the normal installation process since you are now on Windows on a Mac.

 

 

2. Virtual Machine

Spoiler

A Virtual Machine (VM) is a software-based emulation of a computer. Basically, you trick your Mac into thinking it is running Windows. Kind of like Computer-ception -- you are running Mac natively, but then you run a program that runs Windows virtually that then allows you to run Windows programs, all while still being on and having access to the Mac OS.

 

The advantage of using a VM over Dual Booting is that you remain on your Mac side and don't have to reboot every time you want access to either Windows or Mac. The disadvantage is that running VMs can use up a lot of RAM and CPU. This can result in not having the ability to really run many intensive (or non-intensive) programs simultaneously because the programs will respond slowly and feel laggy. Additionally, your computer fans might need to run really high to keep your temperatures in a safe range, resulting in a very noisy computer.

 

Free v Paid options:

The free option is, of course, free, which is a great factor. However, because it is free, it doesn't have the manpower to develop quickly and support all the features necessary for a more native Windows Emulation. Thus, you might have some graphics glitches or lag issues unrelated to your internet and ROSE. 

 

a. Free VM program

i. Install VirtualBox (VBox) like how you install any other .dmg on your Mac.

https://www.virtualbox.org/

ii. Install Windows

You'll need a bootable USB, Windows CD, or a .dmg Windows Installer file. I like the .dmg option because it is very transportable.

Follow the instructions for creating a Virtual Machine and then run the virtual machine, installing Windows like normal. Do make sure that you have access to the Windows OS somehow. Detailed instructions are in the section under the one linked below.

https://www.virtualb...ml#gui-createvm

iii. Install Guest Additions

https://www.virtualb...anual/ch04.html

iii. Install ROSE and play

 

b. Paid for VM program

You have two main options here:

Parallels http://www.parallels.com/

VMWare Fusion http://www.vmware.com/

 

I personally prefer Parallels due to the way it integrates on top of Mac, but that is just personal preference. You can probably try demos of each before deciding on which to buy.

 

The instructions here are pretty much the same as for VirtualBox.

Cool trick thing with this: If you minimize the ROSE Window to your dock, it effectively "suspends" the window such that you can get some memory back and calm the CPU down a little. When you unminimize the window, it will take some time to reload and update, like updating your tumblr dashboard after you've left that page open for an hour. Server Reset after Patch v501 broke this such that minimizing the window will completely freeze the client when you unminimize it. Though if you have another client open watching the frozen one, the frozen one doesn't dc or anything.

I usually try to keep only 1 or 2 clients open at any time because it really eats your CPU/RAM, and even with just two clients, it can get pretty laggy sometimes. But the above trick is pretty useful for farming, since I can have 5 clients open (4 minimized until king spawns) without too much lag. 

 

3. WINE

Spoiler

If you are using WINE for anything, you probably already know how to do [at least] rudimentary commands in Terminal and how to use package management systems like MacPorts or Fink.

 

1. Install WINE

2. launch the ROSE .msi installer (unlesss ROSE has a .exe installer now? If so, that's easier)

http://wiki.winehq.org/msiexec --how to run .msi in WINE

If there's a .exe installer now, just run wine [RoseInsallerName].exe. These commands are launched in the directory containing the installer.

3. run ROSE

You'll have to cd into the director containing the ROSEonline.exe game, which is probably going to be inside (unless you changed the defaults of WINE installation) ~./wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Gravity/Rose\ Online. And then you can just run: wine ROSEonline.exe, patch up, and play.

 

IMPORTANT:  If using WINE or a VM, you'd best have all browsers closed. Chrome especially, loves munching on RAM, and as you will already be slightly short on memory (500-700MB to spare for me), having browsers open will bring you down to 50-200MB to spare easily. Though sometimes if you are careful about just afking around with one window open, the rest minimized, and a pretty fresh browser, you can stay at a decent amount of memory free even with a browser open.

 

Comment if you have any questions or need a better explanation for something, and I will try to answer. I currently run ROSE in Parallels because VBox has really bad 3D Graphics support at the moment, and I can't get ROSE to see the Internets through WINE (though other applications like Internet Explorer 8 access the Internets just fine).

 

 

Edited by Nifa, 04 May 2014 - 08:35 AM.

[ShazamO]

Gross~ MAC's.. I kid

 

Topic Pinned.

[Nifa]

I agree.

[Irirwanwan]

I copy the folder gravity on my other computer, and I paste it in my mac (wine fili> program files> Gravity> rose online) and I run ROSEONLINE.EXE, but can not patch rose: (, so what should I do?

[Genesis]

Supposedly you have to add Wine to your firewall exception list to allow Wine applications to connect to the internet.
 

Allowing specific applications
To allow a specific app to receive incoming connections, add it using Firewall Options:

• Open System Preferences.
• Click the Security or Security & Privacy icon.
• Select the Firewall tab.
• Click the lock icon in the preference pane, then enter an administrator name and password.
• Click the Firewall Options button
• Click the Add Application (+) button.
• Select the app you want to allow incoming connection privileges for.
• Click Add.
• Click OK.

Edited by Genesis, 15 June 2014 - 10:10 AM.

[Irirwanwan]

its can't sir , because Roseonline.exe ,not dmg

can't add Roseonline.exe to firewall system  

 

[Genesis]

From what I read, you have to add Wine.app to your firewall exception list.

[Irirwanwan]

already add it , but can patch :/
 

[Nifa]

Personally I am unable to get ROSE on WINE to work. I also have the connection error. This is with having my Firewall turned off, and with having it on and having wine added to my Firewall exceptions [allow incoming connections] list. 

[Irirwanwan]

hmmmm, so i must instal windows and my mac , very sad with this situation

[Nifa]

I use a VM instead, because my Mac also does not want to install Windows

[DrunkinMonkey]

Ok guys so I'm running a 2014 Macbook Pro (2.2ghz I7, 16gb 1600mhz ddr3 Ram, with Iris Pro 1536Mb GFX, 250gb SSD HDD, Running OS X Yosemite.)

I'm wanting the best way to Run multiple rose clients without needing to duel boot reading this wine is out?? but VM crashes when you switch clients is this correct??

This is my Uni Laptop so duel booting is really not something I would like to do especially with the small hdd space.

 

Are there any software out that is better then these options these days? or just install VM and see how it goes.

 

Cheers Mick

 

Edit - Have been having a bit of a look around has anyone tried using wine bottler and if so how is it?

 

WineBottler

Edited by DrunkinMonkey, 04 January 2015 - 04:10 PM.

[Onehityoudie]

anyone knows how to download this on mac easy way?