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#151 Helium

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:55 AM

ok posting this here because there is no reply from GM's in any other topic on the forum about this. I received an answer on my latest ticket and here is the additional info about the transfer that was added.

 

"Let me take the opportunity to give you the details about the account transfer as well.

The event is a server transfer (or more like an account copy) and not a merge. So all of your characters on the said account will now be copied.
During the transfer the battle field records, cash items and mall items are NOT transferred.
Mall items, honor points, character bank, etc. can be transferred (and not copied) on the other server as a separate request.
Copies of the characters on each server is permanent, but will live separate lives.
Accounts from Trifri that was transferred to Nova cannot be accessed using Facebook. The nova account can only be accessed via game client or the browser version of the client."

 

So I guess every single ticket sent in that didnt specifically state they wanted their Honor, mall items, banks etc to also be transferred I guess better go flood the ticket system all over again. I know some of you are transferring to Nova because you like the cloning idea.. I for one am going because I'm not a fan of the pk, its not a secret. Ofcourse I want ALL my accomplishments in the game to go to Nova with me. 

 

Why all this info wasnt stated from the very beginning of this nightmare errr I mean event.  You guys could have saved urselves hours n hours of senseless work had you just told us the details from the get go.

 

My condolences to Ed and Noel who have had to attend to my 50 tickets this week lol, they are doin a great job trying to keep up!

 

The response is almost accurate, but let me make 2 small corrections and then add something to consider:

 

Corrections:

The character bank does automatically get copied.

The account bank does not automatically get copied.

 

Consideration (For those of you trading your gear for WP or gifted items on the other server):

- First, let me say that, there are no plans currently to merge! With that said, in the case of a merge, the copies of items that you part with on the original server will not be merged in if they still exist on the server at that time. In other words, the items you parted with will remain where ever they have gone to and the copies of those items will not go anywhere.

(This is in keeping with what I have been saying! Duplicates are not going to exist on any one server. Furthermore, it would allow for scams.)


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#152 Dyshana

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 10:37 AM

Helium you didn't answer to me... this thing is going to destroy all trades.....

 

 

What happens if somebody put the same item (original and copied) to AH on both servers? What will happen in case the servers will merge again? Will you delete the item from the bags of one of the 2 buyers????? THIS IS LIKE PLAYERS GET SCAMMED by Gravity!!!!


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 10:42 AM

   Can you transfer BFG points? I got that max 1,000,000 TB points :P Let alone 90k svs and 20kish BF points....


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 10:58 AM

 

PvE @ me bros  !

 

 

 

 

This is why battlefield points should not drop from mobs / events.

 

 

Make events with +points for participate in battlefields, don't give free coupons.


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#155 Helium

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:38 AM

Helium you didn't answer to me... this thing is going to destroy all trades.....

 

 

What happens if somebody put the same item (original and copied) to AH on both servers? What will happen in case the servers will merge again? Will you delete the item from the bags of one of the 2 buyers????? THIS IS LIKE PLAYERS GET SCAMMED by Gravity!!!!

 

If you part with the item on the server you got copied to, in case of merge, if the item has not changed or moved on the original server it will at that time. It will get merged in with the character it was sold to at auction and will no longer exist in the original location. If it moves on both servers, well... I may at that time make a list of items which fall under those circumstances. With that list, depending on other conditions like whether the item is used by an active player or was simply moved once and then let sit, I will have to determine among these which will get new Id #'s and which will go poof.

 

Simply stated, if a Player gets an item at Auction, it will be fine even if that item happens to be one with a copy on the other server. The only thing to be decided is whether or not the person who put it up on the Auction was trying to scam people by putting it on Auction thinking they will still have it if the day of merge ever comes.


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#156 Dyshana

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:44 AM

Ok. Thank you, It's clear... in this way better not buying anything anymore.... This will be a big problem for the entire game economy. I was against the cloning... and this confirm me you are going to kill AH and personal shops.


Edited by Dyshana, 01 July 2014 - 11:48 AM.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 12:21 PM

Simply stated, if a Player gets an item at Auction, it will be fine even if that item happens to be one with a copy on the other server. The only thing to be decided is whether or not the person who put it up on the Auction was trying to scam people by putting it on Auction thinking they will still have it if the day of merge ever comes.

 

I mostly flipped through this topic and what's going on with Requiem atm in general due to not playing this game anymore.

 

But what I get from this is:

"I can dupliacte my char and sell my mallwhored stuff on the other server and Gravity is perfectly fine with it."

Spoiler

 


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 12:33 PM

lol leash those pictures sum up my reaction as it sunk in this was happening. Ive been shocked into mr positivity for gravity. Im not sure if i woke up in another reality its very strange. I have to say though lets not complain. I know theres many risks involved but thats up to Helium to sort out. Im sure if the time comes no ones stuff will just be deleted after that amount of time passing with those items passing through so many hands. The more likely option like he said is to simply alter their codes with some exstention.

 

 


Edited by BumblefootV7, 01 July 2014 - 12:33 PM.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:30 PM

The response is almost accurate, but let me make 2 small corrections and then add something to consider:

 

Corrections:

The character bank does automatically get copied.

The account bank does not automatically get copied.

 

Consideration (For those of you trading your gear for WP or gifted items on the other server):

- First, let me say that, there are no plans currently to merge! With that said, in the case of a merge, the copies of items that you part with on the original server will not be merged in if they still exist on the server at that time. In other words, the items you parted with will remain where ever they have gone to and the copies of those items will not go anywhere.

(This is in keeping with what I have been saying! Duplicates are not going to exist on any one server. Furthermore, it would allow for scams.)

 

ok I get that... and ty for a reply.. but it has nothing to do with the point of my post however. My point was I requested in my tickets to have my toons transfered to Nova simple, but later learn that since I didnt state in the ticket that I wanted my Honor points and item mall items I paid for already to be moved as well I needed to submit another ticket to request for those things. Im not worried about my account banks at all as all that stuff is sitting in the bags of my various toons waiting to be moved. As for battle points well I've been without SVS for awhile, I dont do FOC much if ever at all and Theme well there isnt anything useful whatsoever in the merchant to use those points for anyways so who cares lol.

 

I have no desire for copied items at all.. I just want to leave Tifri and all of its PK'ness behind and go back to enjoying the game like I did in Valdes. The extra toons in Tifri will save me the hassle of making a couple toons there just to keep my names as mine tho so thats cool.


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:45 PM

This is why battlefield points should not drop from mobs / events.

 

 

Make events with +points for participate in battlefields, don't give free coupons.

 

 Its mostly all for BFG ... Tool,


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:57 PM

I have no desire for copied items at all.. I just want to leave Tifri and all of its PK'ness behind and go back to enjoying the game like I did in Valdes. The extra toons in Tifri will save me the hassle of making a couple toons there just to keep my names as mine tho so thats cool.

 

this is all anyone has wanted since forced pvp...
 


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 02:57 PM

 Its mostly all for BFG ... Tool,

 

 

 

Who you trying to convince ? Me ? Or yourself ? ;}


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 06:31 PM

If you request it, we will make one copy of each character, on a one time basis, and only one way. With the exceptions mentioned above, the copies will be the same (as far as honor points, character bank and so on). From that point forward the original and the copy will live separate lives and never the two shall meet...

 

Here Helium states Honor Points will be copied to the destination server in the original ticket.

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ok posting this here because there is no reply from GM's in any other topic on the forum about this. I received an answer on my latest ticket and here is the additional info about the transfer that was added.
 

Let me take the opportunity to give you the details about the account transfer as well.
The event is a server transfer (or more like an account copy) and not a merge. So all of your characters on the said account will now be copied.
During the transfer the battle field records, cash items and mall items are NOT transferred.
Mall items, honor points, character bank, etc. can be transferred (and not copied) on the other server as a separate request.
Copies of the characters on each server is permanent, but will live separate lives.
Accounts from Trifri that was transferred to Nova cannot be accessed using Facebook. The nova account can only be accessed via game client or the browser version of the client.

 
So I guess every single ticket sent in that didnt specifically state they wanted their Honor, mall items, banks etc to also be transferred I guess better go flood the ticket system all over again. I know some of you are transferring to Nova because you like the cloning idea.. I for one am going because I'm not a fan of the pk, its not a secret. Ofcourse I want ALL my accomplishments in the game to go to Nova with me.
 
Why all this info wasnt stated from the very beginning of this nightmare errr I mean event.  You guys could have saved urselves hours n hours of senseless work had you just told us the details from the get go.
 
My condolences to Ed and Noel who have had to attend to my 50 tickets this week lol, they are doin a great job trying to keep up!

 


Now here, Support team states Honor Points won't be copied to the destination server unless we send in an additional separate ticket asking for them to be copied. Helium never mentioned this, so are the devs and support team on a different page on this issue? I was under the impression Honor points would be included in the original ticket.


Helium, do we now need to request, in a another separate ticket for each account, asking for honor points to be copied now?


Edited by Jabrody, 01 July 2014 - 06:32 PM.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 07:12 PM

Here Helium states Honor Points will be copied to the destination server in the original ticket.

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Now here, Support team states Honor Points won't be copied to the destination server unless we send in an additional separate ticket asking for them to be copied. Helium never mentioned this, so are the devs and support team on a different page on this issue? I was under the impression Honor points would be included in the original ticket.


Helium, do we now need to request, in a another separate ticket for each account, asking for honor points to be copied now?

 

My Honor Points transferred and I never specifically asked...Gravity showing its succession in communication yet again


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#165 Jabrody

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:03 PM

Ah okay, I guess I won't worry about it then.

 

I also just watched the new twitch stream, and alteris/helium said it would be copied. (I assume with the original ticket)


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Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:33 AM

too bad triffi who transferred o nova will never access the game thru fb, y ofc your character or account was created in wp and nothing to do with facebook. Your account dont have any link with facebook unlike nova that created thru fb. They provide solution to access the game thru client u just need your account id and password change to access it thru client. Ofc triffi wont be allowed to access thru fb bcoz they have different payent scheme unless otherwise gravity is willing to share profit with fb with triffi ppl. Advantage of nova well easy dual log in 1 pc.
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:48 AM

But what I get from this is:

"I can dupliacte my char and sell* my mallwhored stuff on the other server and Gravity is perfectly fine with it."

*for Lant of course and not real money, obviously noone does that {suggestive wink}


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