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[Leonis]

I'm not going to pin this thread, so in the event no one cares to ask anymore, it will naturally fall down the list.
 
But I've been having some requests for specific items for where or what to hunt.
 
I am willing to confirm if an item is on the drop table and able to be farmed and will give general outlines to how the new drop table works, but I will not be giving out actual drop chances, because the system has become quite complex now.
 
If you want to know the level of a monster, I will be happy to share that information with you by requests posted here, so everyone has the equal opportunity to learn. The reason I'm not going to share who drops what, is because I would like to reserve that for exploration and discovery. That is part of what makes it, a game. Talk with your friends, help update the Wiki or a fansite, explore, take notes and share or corner the market and make others jealous!
 
And finally, the drop table is still in its infancy, for being the new system it is. So if you have feedback, please also post that here so we can consider it for future adjustments.
But generally, here's what the guidelines look like on the new drop table and system.
 

Drop Table Guide

 

The new mechanics

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Drop System Update
Multiple Drops per monster!
 
We have updated the drop table so that each monster will have unique and independent drop tiers from now on. This new design will not only allow us to better control what drops, but it also increases the potential for farming!
 
How it works:  Monster is defeated > Drop Roll begins
Let's say, the monster has:
These are example rates, not real rates!
 
1.       60% chance for zulie to drop
2.       75% chance for a "common" drop
3.       30% chance for an "uncommon" drop
4.       15% chance for a "rare" drop
5.       5% chance for an "epic" drop
6.       1% chance for a "legendary" drop
 
The first thing, you may have noticed, is we're bringing back zulie drops!
 
The next thing you may be thinking is, it's the same as before. Oh, but it isn't! This is different from what we used to have, because each drop tier is now its own unique drop roll and chance, instead of lumping it all in to one attempt. You may get a drop from each category, just a couple or maybe just one if you're running a bit of a bad luck streak. Also, we've gained a bit more control over the drop quantity as well, and will be working to reintroduce something more closely similar to the old style of Stockpile, for those who remember how it worked, back in to game play with some extra enhancements of our own!
 
What this also allows, in combination with our database update, is expand on some bonus stats and medal types, which will directly influence a certain category of drop, to help you with your farming.
 
Now, in most cases, many of the category drops will now work like this:
 
Common Drops: Zone related drops and various common and fairly useful materials for both crafting and NPC trash selling, as well as helping you recover from battle.
Uncommon Drops: Monster related drops, mostly common crafting materials related to the level range of the monster and area/planet you're on.
Rare Drops: Rare monster related drops and uncommon crafting materials.
Very Rare Drops: Generally blue equipment, both armor and weapons which will vary based on the type of monster class you've defeated, just like before.
Epic Drops: Typically, these are those purple weapons you find.
Legendary Drops: A step up from the Epic rarity, we've placed most accessories within this tier, along with some of the higher impacting materials that are involved with Gem Crafting or Refining.
 
Now mentioned before, was that we have new stats that will help influence specific tiers, but we'll be waiting on releasing those for a future update, when we finish the Gem expansion planned for July.  The Gem expansion will provide us a means to offer new gems, with some of the latest new stat types, such as piercing defense, and help you customize your character and build further and to become more powerful!

 

 
New Medals in the Item Mall, to help with farming!
Medal of Prosperity

• Increase Drop Chance by 50% for 30 minutes.

Medal of Abundance

• Increase Maximum Item Drop Quantity by +3 for 30 minutes.

Medal of Common Gathering

• Add an additional 50% to your base Common Item Drop Rates for 30 minutes.

Medal of Uncommon Gathering

• Add an additional 30% to your base Uncommon Item Drop Rates for 30 minutes.

Medal of Rare Gathering

• Add an additional 15% to your base Rare Item Drop Rates for 30 minutes.

Medal of Very Rare Gathering

• Add an additional 10% to your base Very Rare Item Drop Rates for 30 minutes.

Medal of Epic Gathering

• Add an additional 2.5% to your base Epic Item Drop Rates for 30 minutes.

Medal of Legendary Gathering

• Add an additional 1% to your base Legendary Item Drop Rates for 30 minutes.

Notice of Refund & cease of item functionality

• The Medal of Retrievals will be refunded, 50 Premium Points per 1 Medal as the Medal no longer is able to be used with the new drop system.
• The Medal of Retrieval (10) Box, will be refunded 800 Premium Points, if any happen to exist.

 
Common

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• Are based on map level range, where the monster is first found. What we would refer to as a "Zone drop"
• Typically things like:
  • HP Point
  • MP Point
  • Ancient Coins
  • Animal Bones
  • And more

 
Uncommon

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• Low Essence & Essence
• Are based on the monster or monster's "family" as well as common crafting materials that relative to the planet, and level of the monster or its family.
• Example of an Aqua Monster family:
  • Fish Egg Shells
  • Fish Eggs
  • Sea Shell
  • Conch
• Example of Crafting Materials
  • Metals: Iron, Silver Iron, Steel
  • Stone: Sandstone
  • Wood: Aromatic Wood
  • Leather: Sleek Leather
  • Cloth: Linen
  • Other Materials: Etil

 
Rare

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• Low Ether, Ether & Pink Powder, Destruction and Mythril Drills.
• Are also based on the monster or monster's "family" as well as some more rare crafting materials that are relative to the planet, an level of the monster or its family.
• Example of a Beast Monster Family (Grunters, Moldies, Rackies,etc)
  • White Animal Tail Fur
  • Red Animal Tail Fur
  • Black Animal Tail Fur
  • Little Angel Feather
  • Little Devil Feather
  • Various "Dirty" items
  • Various miscellaneous items: Ink, Oil, Glue, Alcohol, Dyes, Gunpowder, Sharp Iron Pieces and more.

 
Very Rare

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• Purple Powder, High Ether, Elixir & Orihalcon Drill
• Blue Weapons and Equipment, relative to the monster's level range and then class type.
• Monster Types and Equipment Associations (we kept the same associations as the prior drop list, not to alter expectations)
  •  Basic.png   383bytes   20 downloadsBasic: Visitor
  •  Guard.png   353bytes   9 downloadsGuard: Soldier & Muse
  •  Fighter.png   286bytes   17 downloadsFighter: Soldier & Hawker
  •  Warrior.png   333bytes   30 downloadsWarrior: Soldier & Dealer
  •  Ranger.png   263bytes   7 downloadsRanger: Hawker & Dealer
  •  Hunter.png   295bytes   13 downloadsHunter: Muse & Hawker
  •  Magician.png   281bytes   12 downloadsMagician: Muse & Dealer
• Monster Class:  Basic.png   383bytes   20 downloadsBasic,  Guard.png   353bytes   9 downloadsGuard,  Fighter.png   286bytes   17 downloadsFighter,  Warrior.png   333bytes   30 downloadsWarrior,  Ranger.png   263bytes   7 downloadsRanger,  Hunter.png   295bytes   13 downloadsHunter and  Magician.png   281bytes   12 downloadsMagician, all have the ability to drop the blue prefixes:
  • Demon (Critical)
  • Dark (Attack Speed)
  • Golden (Max MP)
  • Elven (MP Consumption)
  • Saint (Reduced Level requirement to equip)
  • Grand (Max HP)
• Monster Class:  Leader.png   313bytes   35 downloadsLeader,  Captain.png   364bytes   62 downloadsCaptain,  SubBoss.png   369bytes   15 downloadsSubBoss and  King.png   447bytes   35 downloadsKings, have the additional ability to drop the blue prefix:
  • Legendary (+ Primary Stat for class)

 
Epic

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• Ancient Scarab, Protective Amulet, Mystic Charm, Hime, Low Enthiric, Lisent Hg & Adamantium Drill
• Only monsters with a Class of  Leader.png   313bytes   35 downloadsLeader,  Captain.png   364bytes   62 downloadsCaptain,  SubBoss.png   369bytes   15 downloadsSubBoss and  King.png   447bytes   35 downloadsKing have been given a listing for an epic drop tier.
  • Game Arena Dungeon:  Leader.png   313bytes   35 downloadsLeader &  Captain.png   364bytes   62 downloadsCaptains are excluded from Epic drops.
• Within this tier would be the various purple equipment that is found from monsters, based on associated level to the purple and the monster.
• List of Epic Weapons from a Level 80's  King.png   447bytes   35 downloads  Warrior.png   333bytes   30 downloadsKing-Warrior [Soldier & Dealer]:
  • Firangi
  • Phoenixhander
  • Razor Spear
  • Dark Buster
  • Knight Killer
  • Abyss Rifle
  • Faust

 
Legendary

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• Enthiric, Hermes & Lisent U
• Only monsters with a Class of  Captain.png   364bytes   62 downloadsCaptain,  SubBoss.png   369bytes   15 downloadsSubBoss and  King.png   447bytes   35 downloadsKing have been given a listing for a Legendary drop tier.
  • Game Arena Dungeon:  Captain.png   364bytes   62 downloadsCaptains are excluded from Legendary drops.
• Consider this tier, the rare epics, where we wanted to make certain items become coveted items to earn and the rewards for the hardcore or truly lucky.
• Example of Legendary drops:
  • Full Moon Ring
  • Full Moon Necklace
  • Full Moon Earring
  • Silence Ring
  • Silence Necklace
  • Silence Earring
  • Ethereal Ring
  • Ethereal Necklace
  • Ethereal Earring

 
 
Requested Items:

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Yes it drops!     :

• (60) Lunar Seal Staff
• (62) Dust Wand
• (44) Coyote Wand
• (84) Shining Finger
• (160) Beautiful Earring, Necklace & Ring
• (82) Abyss Rifle
• (38) Shining Staff
• (64) Halbert

No it doesn't    :
<nothing to list, nothing requested yet that doesn't drop>

[IAfjiBa]

Thanks! 

[Filipito98]

now ik how it drops niceeeee *add to favs*

[angeltje]

Thanks leo

[HoneyBunz]

This is a great guide esp for new ppl like me. I'm sure I'll also learn a lot from the questions from more experienced players. Thanks much for posting this

[Feuer]

Pin it, post it the to mguide + FAQ section, 

Edited by Feuer, 09 July 2014 - 01:29 PM.

[pdfisher]

 

Requested Items:

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Yes it drops! :

• Lunar Seal Staff
• Dust Wand
• Coyote Wand

 

No it doesn't    :

<nothing to list, nothing requested yet that doesn't drop>

 

I am confused. Forgive me, but I have been working on a report for about 8 hours now, and I am just plain beat. Do those items drop or not?

[Zurn]

List it does
Yes
Yes
Yes
List it doesn't
No
No
No

Top part is yes, bottom is no.

Edited by Zurn, 09 July 2014 - 01:59 PM.

[maischoyuchen]

Bookmark this page. Thanks You!

[Leonis]

Updated an intended change, that will take place after the servers come back online.

 

Leaders & Captains, will no longer have access to Epic drop tiers from Game Arena Dungeons due to the frequency and quantity of their availability.

Captains, will no longer have access to the Legendary tiers from Game Arena Dungeons due to the frequency and quantity of their availability.

[PeppermintDream]

Very nice. I will refer to this often. Thank you!

[DrunkinMonkey]

this will be very handy for the next few weeks I while the drop tables are being tweeked I think

nice one Leo

[GiEm]

i think its  kinda unfair for those farmers who didn't realize about the Leaders & Captains that drops Epics at dungeons.. because they spent all of their time farming for mats and accessories.. its just frustrating for them to know about it that they didn't grab those Epic hunting opportunity.. 

[ChampPower]

i think its  kinda unfair for those farmers who didn't realize about the Leaders & Captains that drops Epics at dungeons.. because they spent all of their time farming for mats and accessories.. its just frustrating for them to know about it that they didn't grab those Epic hunting opportunity.. 

 

I feel you, but it has to be done because Epic dropped like rain in HOO.

[pdfisher]

Updated an intended change, that will take place after the servers come back online.

 

Leaders & Captains, will no longer have access to Epic drop tiers from Game Arena Dungeons due to the frequency and quantity of their availability.

Captains, will no longer have access to the Legendary tiers from Game Arena Dungeons due to the frequency and quantity of their availability.

 

Thank you Leo! I was concerned that with the way epics were dropping in dungeons, that the market was getting flooded with them.

[poso]

can you include shining finger as well please, the unique katar for raider and also that staff I don't know what is called thanks
 

[pdfisher]

Lunar Seal Staff?

[Leonis]

i think its  kinda unfair for those farmers who didn't realize about the Leaders & Captains that drops Epics at dungeons.. because they spent all of their time farming for mats and accessories.. its just frustrating for them to know about it that they didn't grab those Epic hunting opportunity.. 

 

You're right, it does have a bit of unfairness, but it's just as unfair to undo the earnings those players made based on what we felt was acceptable. Some aspects of game play we're just not able to fully realize or come to know the full outcome until implementation. Even through our own testing, the rates didn't seem that frequent, but we can never simulate the tenacity of some player's ability to farm and adjust accordingly.

 

Though we want Epics to be available through the community, we don't want them to feel as though they are also readily available at any time. Spending the time and effort to get one, and more so to have the fortune of getting the one you want is something we want to feel as a reward. Not a chore.
 

[Feuer]

^
Which is personally why in the future I would like see some more "control" when it comes to them. For example the bindings, but also getting certain parts from quests, from dungeons, kings lastly. In the end just having a drop table with a % isn't enough. Because so long as there are ways to stack those %'s be it costumes, medals, premium, events or combinations of all of them, the % is mitigated / amplified. Having certain parts being in a "controlled" environment, makes things much easier to keep in that "scope of intentions". 

[Leonis]

i think its  kinda unfair for those farmers who didn't realize about the Leaders & Captains that drops Epics at dungeons.. because they spent all of their time farming for mats and accessories.. its just frustrating for them to know about it that they didn't grab those Epic hunting opportunity.. 

 

You're right, it does have a bit of unfairness, but it's just as unfair to undo the earnings those players made based on what we felt was acceptable. Some aspects of game play we're just not able to fully realize or come to know the full outcome until implementation. Even through our own testing, the rates didn't seem that frequent, but we can never simulate the tenacity of some player's ability to farm and adjust accordingly.

 

Though we want Epics to be available through the community, we don't want them to feel as though they are also readily available at any time. Spending the time and effort to get one, and more so to have the fortune of getting the one you want is something we want to feel as a reward. Not a chore.
 

 

 

can you include shining finger as well please, the unique katar for raider and also that staff I don't know what is called thanks
 

Posted. Yes it is available to obtain in-game.

 

 

Lunar Seal Staff?

Yes, have you not seen or heard of one before? A unique staff statted to be roughly level 60 comparison, needing 107 INT to equip, offers 75 MaxMP and 30% MP Consumption as stats, with a base rate of 64 durability, 71 accuracy and 27 Attack.

[pdfisher]

Yes, have you not seen or heard of one before? A unique staff statted to be roughly level 60 comparison, needing 107 INT to equip, offers 75 MaxMP and 30% MP Consumption as stats, with a base rate of 64 durability, 71 accuracy and 27 Attack.

 

Yes I have. I was just asking him if that was the staff he was thinking of. Cursed Staff is the only other unique staff I know about.

 

Leo, have chewed bones and dusty jewels been removed from the drop table on Orlo? I was leveling there for over an hour, and none ever dropped.

[iMatt]

overkill patch removing epics completly from the droptable in dungeons - no point in farming dungeons now again =)

[poso]

You're right, it does have a bit of unfairness, but it's just as unfair to undo the earnings those players made based on what we felt was acceptable. Some aspects of game play we're just not able to fully realize or come to know the full outcome until implementation. Even through our own testing, the rates didn't seem that frequent, but we can never simulate the tenacity of some player's ability to farm and adjust accordingly.

 

Though we want Epics to be available through the community, we don't want them to feel as though they are also readily available at any time. Spending the time and effort to get one, and more so to have the fortune of getting the one you want is something we want to feel as a reward. Not a chore.
 

 

 

Posted. Yes it is available to obtain in-game.

 

 

Yes, have you not seen or heard of one before? A unique staff statted to be roughly level 60 comparison, needing 107 INT to equip, offers 75 MaxMP and 30% MP Consumption as stats, with a base rate of 64 durability, 71 accuracy and 27 Attack.

 

leo. any specific monster I have to farm to obtained my shining finger ? or just any cptain or leader will drop it, or just king ? so I don't have to waster hours and hours farming for something uncertain thanks . can you at least give me a hint

[Denaomina]

  I would hope dungeons still have chances to drop items people want.  It would be nice to see others doing more dungeons since the que times are terrible as it is for them if you don't know a lot of people to que to them with you.  If there is a chance for epics or whatever that is seen of value then more would be running them and the que would be much better for those who are willing to run dungeons.

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under what tier do king medals fall?