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#1 Feuer

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:13 AM

Until further notice [due to personally felt unwarranted nerfs over the last few months] in addition to the Element System being currently tested along with new Cooldown adjustments, there is no reason to play an Axe Champion for Dungeons. Use a spear, or a sword, both will have massively better results. 

 

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#2 WH0MP

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:21 AM

Nice guide!

Is that much con really necessary for pvm?


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:23 AM

The con is actually to gain the benefit of the Axe Sen+Con -> Crit passive. the con is cheap to add AP to, hence adding the extra 100-50 AP is more beneficial then just going for sen alone. 


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 07:02 AM

 

 

 

Build: Stats

STR: 394

DEX: 150

CON: 189

SEN: 250

I just wonder how can we get those dex, con, sen while str is 394 already?


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#5 Feuer

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 07:46 AM

try it, you can get it just fine if youre 230

 


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 08:21 AM

I dont think so, ending up with like 3,5k negative points here


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#7 Feuer

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 08:43 AM

Hmm you know what, when i was doing this there was problems with costumes giving hardstat bonuses, it looks like of my costume items [has 24str on it] was messing up my numbers [even while all EQ removed from ava slots]. So, corrected to 370 [max the str passive, its a must]~ Meaning you need 14 str for the exalted [if you use it]

 

For epic you'll be fine, its requirement is 332 str.

Updated the post to reflect new info as well, many apologies, that shouldn't have been displaying on my client that way. 

 

 


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:07 AM

is that mutch strength needed? I am always carefull about stats over 360-370...its just so expensive...bot on the other side maybe you have more than enaugh con sen


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:13 AM

Well this is a pvm build, and most players will get an Exalted/200 before an Epic, Epic's have the lowest stat requirement for their tier. 

So having 330-350 str is just a bad idea if you want to use the Exalted [384 str required] So sure, you can drop the con for more dex, but i wouldn't recommend going much higher in SEN, anything over 50% when buffed is a waste since mobs only carry the standard 5% chance to crit. 

Also: I highly recommend the Exalted over the epic. 

It has 

More Attack Power

More Accuracy

More Attack Speed

Equal PvM + PvP %;s

 

the only thing the epic has more of is crit, and like I mentioned earlier, Crit is not hard to cap 50% and anything above that rating is frivolous. 

 

 


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:17 AM

ya for pvm you don t need mutch con sen anyways so you can basically go full ap/str np with that


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:22 AM

Meh, full [400-425] is a waste, you can outperform those builds easily by reducing it, and adding more dex. 


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:25 AM

RoseStatCalculator 4tw


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:27 AM

Thing messes me up with the new base stat passives, sometimes i got them, sometimes i don,t and even naked, they'll add and screw up your stat counts. 


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:29 AM

then leave them out of it? the passive you should consider skilling if you have the skillpoints and i for example completly leave it out of my calculations...


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 10:05 AM

Thing messes me up with the new base stat passives, 

 

as in, im not including them on purpose. 


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 05:57 PM

Usage of Pvp weapon launcher was fixed few patches ago


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Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:00 AM

(PvP) Weapon Launcher: 70% stun for 2 seconds [can be applied in PvM, thank god cause i dont need any more things on my damned bars]

 

This one is not working in PVM


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Posted 11 January 2015 - 07:13 PM

Yes they also elongated the PvM Stun cooldown by 1 second, making so ulverick can out spam you to a stun. if you're not actively clicking the skill when the CD ends. 


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Posted 11 January 2015 - 08:29 PM

Also, I'll be updating this guide, now that I've ran another 100+ dungeons since the recent changes to sub-stats etc. Also the Boss changes influenced some things. 


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Posted 19 April 2015 - 06:24 PM

Nice guide, update it though


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Posted 24 April 2015 - 07:23 AM

What's the point of wasting sp on Power Overflow, Durability Assist, and Staminal Assist?


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Posted 11 May 2015 - 11:59 AM

This guide needs to be updated. I can provide my latest builds soon, but I'm also going to be including Spear types soon, and possibly Swords. 

also DoubleRose, those 3sp for the rank 1 buffs were simply if you ended up not having a cleric. 


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Posted 21 July 2015 - 10:28 PM

After watching your Shaman video with your Axe build I got curious to switch one of my Champs to Axe (never EVER use Axes... since iRose....)

 

If you find some time Feuer, I would love to try out your most recent version of this.

 

Thank you once again for your sharing.


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Posted 06 October 2015 - 09:24 PM

Until further notice [due to personally felt unwarranted nerfs over the last few months] in addition to the Element System being currently tested along with new Cooldown adjustments, there is no reason to play an Axe Champion for Dungeons. Use a spear, or a sword, both will have massively better results. 


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