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#26 iDaehyun

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 01:46 PM

I decided to make a tank novice, got it to 150 today, and this is my HP with a Bryn and VIP Buffs :

 

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I can pull and tank just fine, not salamanders pls.


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 04:53 PM

Awesome HP/SP pool o.O

This one's mine without lower headgear, weapon, and garment.
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Posted 12 November 2014 - 07:03 PM

congratulationon on reaching 150!

 

 

Think I also capture a picture of you, since seeing other SN in high ti is a very rare sight.

 

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 07:12 PM

Lol thank you, and yes, that's me. I can only be somewhat useful in TIs as a puller/gwinger, SN's dmg is overall too low to do any killing in High Tis.


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 07:34 PM

Yeah ... that lack of powerful 3rd class skills, I know that feeling.

 

 

I don't think theres even any cards to grant any 3rd class skills to boot.

Only thing I found might grant a 3rd class skill with soul link is the Oni Horns with its 1% proc Cross Impact, but I haven't tested it.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 07:43 PM

Yeah ... that lack of powerful 3rd class skills, I know that feeling.

 

 

I don't think theres even any cards to grant any 3rd class skills to boot.

Only thing I found might grant a 3rd class skill with soul link is the Oni Horns with its 1% proc Cross Impact, but I haven't tested it.

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Oh wow you can wear it when soul linked ? But lol, even if we can, imo,the dmg will be really low, as it's only lv 1, and SN can't dual wield, beside, the Ascendant Crown is too good to give up, and the 1% chance is quite low. Maybe Autocast 193 ASPD build can make some use out of it.


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 07:50 PM

Any build, including ASPD, should never opt Ascendant Crown, for general reason: massive HP/SP, crit, hit, flee, and flat 5 aspd boost, stats, etc. Soul linked ASPD build can wear CD if that's not enough.

I'm currently trying to get a 193 ASPD with knife atm... I've reached 188 with axe before but I think 193 will be hard without ASPD FAW or Bako.
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Posted 13 November 2014 - 06:21 AM

Damn Pentel i was racing you and you beat me so hard.

 

Only just dinged 131 today hoping to hit 150 by end of week.

 

This is my build at the moment, kind of similar to yours TBH im just missing a few things like 

 

AAR, tattoos ect don't know what to put in my spectacles either i was debating between incubus and a few others but i really need to get a AAP for that +30 Mdef if i want to do that so i can get the succubus combo.

 

Also those vagabond wolfs just don't want to drop a SDB for me xD

 

 

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Stats unbuffed.

 

 

 


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 06:43 AM

 ASPD FAW 

 

I didn't realize you could make an ASPD FAW has made such a huge difference on my aspd thanks.

I am not sure what i should put in my new ASPD +9 Faw Though i was thinking maybe an aliot any suggestions?


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 06:47 AM

Spoiler


Do you level outside TIs?
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Posted 13 November 2014 - 06:51 AM

lol, so it's you, and yes, I set up a tent in TIs and live there so xP.
And I thought you were going for 193 ASPD ? 


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 06:52 AM

Do you level outside TIs?

 

I do a little bit of both, its very hard to get High TI recently so im forced to grind scaraba dailys ect.
 

Curious i just made the ASPD faw you were talking about but i am having trouble deciding what card to put in it, any tips i was leaning towards Aliot just because of my super low SP pool but raydric reis is also kind of invaluable now that i lose reis from switching from my Hpb

 

 

@Pentel ^ 

 Yeah 193 ASPD is my goal but i am not quite their in terms of gears yet so im doing what i can, i also need to put a little more emphasis on my survivability 


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 07:00 AM

You shouldn't card your FAWs with Aliot, it'll ruin the FAWs usefulness and resell value, beside, that abysmal amount of int won't make much of a difference, compare to say, Raydric or Giant Whisper. I would still pick Raydric over GW though, 20% Neutral reduction is too good to give up.


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 12:40 PM

So I recently leveled my 100/21 supernovice in low ti the other day. I wanted to try out my new gears.

I had a blast using faceworm queen's leg[2] as my weapon and white eddga doll on my head. I had 190 aspd with the dagger. I was using an aspd perfected faw and 2 bakonowa tattoos, as well as melee shadow set (+3% aspd), an awake, a aspd+1 rudras grace, and an enrich celermine potion.
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Posted 13 November 2014 - 01:05 PM

aspd perfected faw and 2 bakonowa tattoos


I'm jelly.

Is the FAW a +12 one with Special AGI?
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Posted 13 November 2014 - 01:50 PM

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My stats, with a HP increase potion, as I always use them whenever I do TIs. As I build solely HP and DEF/MDEF, my dmg is exceptionally low, I can say that outside TIs I'm pretty much useless as I can't do any solo killing. I'm always a gwinger and sometimes a puller,though the Sura and RK/RG often take it from me as I can't pull as fast as them snapping or their mounts,and I fall back to spamming Sanctuary/Cure/StatusRecovery, but if the job comes down to me then I can do that no problem.


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 01:53 PM

I'm jelly.

Is the FAW a +12 one with Special AGI?


Its +11 I think. Enchants are after attack delay 8% x 2 and aspd+1.
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Posted 19 November 2014 - 03:35 PM

So i respecced my novice from caster to OP's build(with my own modifications) and even though my gear leaves much to be desired it worked out quite well i am able to effectively(ish) solo pretty much anything in the new world including Bitfrost tower and eclage dailys.

 

Soon as i ding 150 and get my gear sorted my next goal is to solo Nidhoggurs nest.

 

 

 

I also found Slotted agi gloves are a nice alternative too bako tattoo if you can't afford them.


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Posted 19 November 2014 - 04:48 PM

The video got blocked! Did you add background music?


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Posted 19 November 2014 - 04:53 PM

The video got blocked! Did you add background music?

 

Yeah holdup will reupload no problem just going to finish up my TI first.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:08 AM

Managed to derp around on super novice last night in the mid turn in. I still can't seem to get 193 aspd without ascendant crown or whatev. I really like eddga doll though :( my damage on aunoe and whatever is like 600~700 damage per dagger hit, but becomes 900~1000 with the eddga doll tripped, which is pretty often.

 

Despite being a supernovice, I think my party enjoyed having me, since I was apparently interesting/fun to some of them. A couple people were impressed when I turned into face worm queen and earthquaked constantly ;)

 

I think if I switch to ascendant crown I won't need to use an aspd perfected FAW, and instead can probably use a heroic backpack, and get +30 ATK that way at least.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 08:58 AM

What exactly is a ASPD Perfected FAW? Long ago I looked up what other people thought was better, Heroic Backpack or Fallen Angel Wing. Most people sided with Heroic Backpack. Is ASPD Perfected FAW something else?


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:59 PM

Heroic backpack (with 100 base agi, 100 str): +8% aspd, +1 aspd, +30 atk
"Aspd perfected" FAW (with 100 base agi, 100 str): +21% aspd, +1 aspd, +5% atk

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 04:09 PM

Special Agi on the last slot gives more benefit compared to just +1 aspd.

At 132 I have 70 STR 90 AGI and 90 VIT which... Yeah... My best shot was 1,5k endowed double attack. Idk if I can solo grind till 160 when it comes.
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 04:14 PM

Ok so I am assuming this ASPD Perfected FAW is a 

Fallen Angel WIng with the following enchants

 - Delay Afterattack +3

 - Delay Afterattack +3

 - ASPD +1

 

How much Zeny did you spend trying to get these enchants?

 

I think I remember reading that people really liked the -10% Neutral Damage from Heroic. It's the only thing I see that really stands out looking at both pieces of equipment.

 

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Looking at the wiki, yeah putting the special Agi gives you +4 Agi, +1% ATK, -7% fixed cast time, and + 1 ASPD (assuming it's +12) among the other bonuses FAW gives.

Special Stat Enchant

"Special" Stat enchants have the following effect:

  • +1 to (stat)
  • +3 to (stat) if refined to +8 (for total of +4)
  • Bonus if refined to +9

Str Agi Dex Int Vit Luk +1% atk +1% atk +1% matk +1%matk +1% maxSP +1% max HP

  • +1 aspd, -7% fixed cast if refined to +12

 


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