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[Feuer]

They recoded an entire database
recoded the entire drop system
scrapped almost all the skill data and re coded it
Adding a new statistic system from scratch
Coded the entire GA system
Coded all new binding mechanics.

Not bad for 8 months from 3 people [excluding the GA] 

[Valakas]

iuh, no wonder this game is going no where,,, i see now why they can only change things that is already there instead of creating something new,,, dang , they are too greedy .. They shoukd have hired a grouo of people to develop the game , instead, they just take the money and split it into 3 people grrr....

Well tbh we have no way of knowing how much money they make from Rose Online alone, so maybe thats what they can afford right now for the game's development. If we suddenly have a noticeable increment in number of players and they actually contribute to the IM in some way ( which help boost the Income of Rose Online ) then perhaps we'll see more talents being added into their Development Team. Maybe things are sufficient the way they are now. 

[Valakas]

Feuer: I know this can take long time, but I'm talking about years, not months...
People can build real houses in few months. Nobody spends that much time on developnent, movies production or building real houses!
Things they are trying to fix trough these years, are basic mechanics that should be implemented after beta release.

 

Sorry for double posting but I feel that I gotta add something here.  

Since you mentioned build real houses ( I am in fact in the Construction Business ) . Among our clients are quite famous automobile giant brands like Toyota, Porsche, Yamaha, Honda and Aston Martin. 

You see, there are different types of Constructions, some are small scales, some medium and of course some are of gigantic scale. I believe Rose Online are somewhat in the small scale if we relate the game development to Construction world. Small scales are usually ventured by small developer companies whereby they buy their own land and proceed to build and then re-sell them. These type rely heavily on their budget and most of the time they are not bound by deadlines. Its the same as Rose Online now, they build with whatever resources and men power available to them. 

From what I can see, whatever the Developers are doing now are finishing up on the foundation work and mind you, foundation works are very very important. You do not see the actual building taking up shape now and when you look at it, nothing actually makes sense. But during the foundation work itself, electrical wiring conduits, gaps for rain water down pipes, and plumbing pipes has to be installed already ( even though the main electrical and plumbing work only start work many months later ). 

My point is, we may not see most of the reason of why things are happening now but I believe they are the foundation work laid to accommodate future installations. Rose Online is like a commercial building now getting a major renovation work, if you don't trust me then try getting an electrical drill and drill a few holes in the wall in the nearest commercial building you can go to. You stand a 50% higher chance of getting electrocuted or breaking a gas/water pipe than you would to drill a house. It looks simple to everyone's eyes but beneath and behind it took many hard works that you cannot imagine.  

Producing a movie which plays for 2-3 hours max or building a house that its inhabitant will have to adapt or engage in heavy renovation CANNOT be compared to developing a game which needs to constantly evolve in accordance to community's current and estimated future needs.  

[Leeny]

all in all, im excited for this update

[ivqon321]

good work xD

[Naughty]

Joel, your unnecessary bump post has been removed.
In a separate Topic....Mod Genesis had already requested, that you
don't bump topics in this manner.

By this Forums rules, the bumping of Topics is allowed, only in the Buy/Sell section

[Feuer]

Sorry for double posting but I feel that I gotta add something here.  

Since you mentioned build real houses ( I am in fact in the Construction Business ) . Among our clients are quite famous automobile giant brands like Toyota, Porsche, Yamaha, Honda and Aston Martin. 

You see, there are different types of Constructions, some are small scales, some medium and of course some are of gigantic scale. I believe Rose Online are somewhat in the small scale if we relate the game development to Construction world. Small scales are usually ventured by small developer companies whereby they buy their own land and proceed to build and then re-sell them. These type rely heavily on their budget and most of the time they are not bound by deadlines. Its the same as Rose Online now, they build with whatever resources and men power available to them. 

From what I can see, whatever the Developers are doing now are finishing up on the foundation work and mind you, foundation works are very very important. You do not see the actual building taking up shape now and when you look at it, nothing actually makes sense. But during the foundation work itself, electrical wiring conduits, gaps for rain water down pipes, and plumbing pipes has to be installed already ( even though the main electrical and plumbing work only start work many months later ). 

My point is, we may not see most of the reason of why things are happening now but I believe they are the foundation work laid to accommodate future installations. Rose Online is like a commercial building now getting a major renovation work, if you don't trust me then try getting an electrical drill and drill a few holes in the wall in the nearest commercial building you can go to. You stand a 50% higher chance of getting electrocuted or breaking a gas/water pipe than you would to drill a house. It looks simple to everyone's eyes but beneath and behind it took many hard works that you cannot imagine.  

Producing a movie which plays for 2-3 hours max or building a house that its inhabitant will have to adapt or engage in heavy renovation CANNOT be compared to developing a game which needs to constantly evolve in accordance to community's current and estimated future needs.  

 

Well spoken Valakas, completely details my point exactly. 

[Leonis]

Hey everyone, so it's great to see so many excited for this update as we are! I've gone through the thread, best I could, so I apologize if I didn't answer your question as directly as possible, but I wanted to try to formulate the list of questions and answers to be as wide covering as possible, without anyone feeling singled out.

 

Gem Update Questions

Will the gems be account or character locked from Honor / Valor Shops?
They are intended to be a marketable point of consumerism from the Honor and Valor shops. No they will not have any restrictions to them.

What is going to happen to the gems in our current gear?
As stated in the announcement, none of the existing gems will be put under any additional restrictive changes and will behave just as they do now.

The New Gems

With so many new stats, we wanted to make sure that there was an easy way to identify what a new gem did, and where it could go.
What we've created is an easy way to learn to identify what kind of stat a gem would give, based on the type of gem (Ruby, Garnet, Topaz, etc).
We know that there has been a great amount of concern and interest in knowing how gems would change the power of characters, because we're now allowing every equipment piece to have a slot. Fear not! What we've devised will help ensure that the current gems we're all used to and love, will not change, and what we're adding is just that, adding to it.

What will happen to the current gem names?
We are not changing the names with this update. Though we would like to step away from the numbered tiering, we don't want to cause confusion so only the new gems will be given the new named teiring.

So does this mean all the current gems can go in to every slot?
No. As explained in the original post, only certain cuts can go in to the new locations and only new gems will be given cuts. Existing gems will remain as they are and will continue to work as they do currently.

How will this impact the gem process?
None of these new gems will be available through the current gem crafting skills, so it will not impact the current gem crafting processes.

Why aren't all the current gems listed? (Beryl)
Beryl and all of the original gems are listed under the Original Gems section. Very few of the original gems will receive cuts so they may be placed in to other new slots, which were listed in the original announcement as well. Only new gems were listed to help keep focus on what will be coming and added to game play. Again, as stated in the original post, none of the current and existing gems will be changed from how they work or behave right now. We did not feel it was necessary or relevant to include the existing gems when explaining a feature update.

Given the listing for Cushion cuts, does this mean there will only be those 4 gems allowed and what is going to happen to the existing gems in a body item?
Only new gems are being listed with where they will be able to be placed. Existing gems are going to have the same functionality as current.

So for a gem like Jade, can it be cut to fit certain slot locations?
Currently we have not included any of the new gems to the existing gem crafting system. As we have plans for the future regarding such skills, we are not able to incorrporate it at this stage of development.
Short answer: No, you will have to find/buy gem types certain cuts.

Can I gem my costume?
Yes you may, however the only bonuses that come from costumes are from the set bonus system, when stated to be a costume bonus. No stats or gems from costume equipment are taken into account for combat mechanics.

So I can put beryls in everything now and become the ultimate full support Cleric?
Sorry to get your hopes up, but that is explained in the original post. Unless you see a beryl listed under each cut, that will not be the case. Only certain cuts of gems will be allowed to be placed in to certain locations. This is done to prevent this exact issue from happening, where a single stat can be overlapped heavily to create "broken characters" otherwise known as "overpowered" easily. Though we want to encourage players to create their own builds and style, we want it to be a challenge, take effort and feel rewarding.

But I wanted to buy beryls in to everything and be a super support Cleric!
Take a closer look at the gems that you'll be able to use, you can still improve your ability as a Support Cleric, you just need the right gems for the right slots.

Will two hand weapons be able to have two gems, since one handers with an off-hand will get two gems?
At the moment, we weren't able to include this in to the update, but it is something we will work towards because we agree it is a fair aspect between the two weapon choices.

Will we get a free skill and stat reset with this update?
No. This update adds to the existing game play, it is not taking away or forcing a change on anyone in a potentially negative way. We understand this will potentially change how some of you wish to build your character given the additions, but as this is an update that is adding content to explore, your character's abilities are not being forced to change to incorporate it.

Is there a price list for Valor and Honor gems?
It is not yet finalized, so a price list is not yet available. Our goal is to have the gems need to take effort to earn, but still be within reach of a game or few, depending on performance and put in effort between PvP and PvM tasks.

What drop tier will gems be from Kings?
This is not yet established. As we wish to make the gems available, but not too rare. We want players to be able to find and utilize them with enough time and effort, granted it will still be slow to collect the set you may want at the start, we don't want to artificially inflate rates either.
We are still considering the impact of availability and drop rates, as well as the influencing mechanics behind them.

So my [equipment item] has a [gem] in it, what will happen to it?
Nothing. We are not changing existing gems from how they currently function or behave.

I don't like the new naming scheme, why can't you keep to grade 1~7?
Even though this is a fantasy game, we do like to help enrich the lore and experience and to help provide that we've given them names to display the amount of power or bonuses you would receive magically from each stone.

When are you going to open Pegasus so we can test all this?
Pegasus will be made available only to a select few for bug testing purposes, we will not be announcing open access.

• Why not?
• Because we've come to terms with the expectation of how Pegasus is actually used, versus what we need from it and those who wish to actually help and assist with bug testing have made themselves known to us and have consistently helped with feedback and testing, instead of testing for personal use and gain and not sharing any feedback with us at all.

So what is going to be the Artisan's role in all this?
Artisans are not involved in the new gems being released, their skills will remain as they are for the original and existing gems.

What about gem boxes?
Gem boxes still exist and drop mostly from the Ghosts that spawn during the night cycle of game play. The drop rates of the boxes were ultimately reduced because we found there was too high of a rate of gems being obtained through them, and not necessarily enough from crafting in the lower tiers. The farming for low tier gems was very much off scale from what was being crafted, reducing the need for the basic materials to do so.



Enchantment Scroll Questions

How are the Enchantment Scrolls going to be obtained?
As a Valor Shop purchase and through the Item Mall.

Can you give further explanation on how the Enchantment Scroll works:

• If you remove the Appraisal Stats (Blue Stats) from a grade 3 item, you may place it back on to any grade 3 item or higher. You will not be able to put the stats on to an Item Mall, Brave, Honor or other named grade gear.
• If you remove the Appraisal Stats (Blue Stats) from an Unique item, you may only place a new stat on to a Unique item. You will not be able to place it on to a grade 1~9, or any other named group.

Why did you put these restrictions?
We've done this to prevent power ramping from being an easy task. If there were no restrictions, high level equipment that yield high level stats, could be transferred to low level equipment, just as when you open certain equipment chests, the chances of a high tier stat is good, and then it could be passed along to low level equipment. In fairness, this backwards powering, is not what the intention of the feature is for. It is intended to encourage and help allow players to take existing stats they enjoy, and pass them up to their next tier of equipment so they don't have to experience a power loss just for changing gear as they level.

Are there any restrictions to what the Enchantment Scrolls can extract stats from?
No there are no restrictions to what you can use it on to extract a stat, however as stated above, what you take a stat from will restrict you from what you may put the stat back in to.
After this update, you will notice that every equipment now has a grade or grade name, associated to it. This is all based on its level requirement to wear the item. Every 25 levels is 1 grade tier, if it is not in a group type (Unique, Item Mall, Event, etc.)

So I can take the stats off one gear to another?
Not just any or all stats, only the stats that come from being appraised or are attached on to the equipment as a bonus. Natural stats are tied to that piece of equipment and cannot be removed.
 

[TazDeviL01]

Are Enchantment Scrolls can be used on accessories too?

[Nelko]

Okay, so we put three in-demand gems in the Honor Shop and only one in-demand gem in the Valor shop.

 

Why do I feel the people in Warp Portal loves giving the PvM player the shining, single finger salute?

 

Oh yes, maybe it's because they do.

[Feuer]

Very thorough ty Leonis. 

One new question

You have Honor, Valor, and GA listed. Isn't Valor, Honor both a part of the GA system? So, am I to take the GA listing as, dungeon drops? and how would it relate to PvP as a "drop"? 

Edited by Feuer, 08 September 2014 - 10:00 AM.

[Filipito98]

So I can put beryls in everything now and become the ultimate full support Cleric?
Sorry to get your hopes up, but that is explained in the original post. Unless you see a beryl listed under each cut, that will not be the case. Only certain cuts of gems will be allowed to be placed in to certain locations. This is done to prevent this exact issue from happening, where a single stat can be overlapped heavily to create "broken characters" otherwise known as "overpowered" easily. Though we want to encourage players to create their own builds and style, we want it to be a challenge, take effort and feel rewarding.

 

about FS cleric isnt a bit overpower cause thye can have easly +65 buffs but i understand that, was also thing into that (others classes might be overpower like knight) , but wat i came to say was that was the question n answere i wanted to know thnks leo

 

 

 

Will two hand weapons be able to have two gems, since one handers with an off-hand will get two gems?
At the moment, we weren't able to include this in to the update, but it is something we will work towards because we agree it is a fair aspect between the two weapon choices.

i can sugest this, 2 gem slots thats true, but one of the gem slot was special

example: Sundering force: 2Gems normal socket and special socket (can be drill twice but 2nd slot is special) (D7 and one of the new) description and commando to the new (can be put into that x part bla bla bla and 2 hand sword (special slot only)) but also about drill twice, it can be put a normal gem like D7 or other old ones

for those who didnt understand, in the two hand weapons it can be put 1 only normal gem and 1 only new gem (special slot) for can find the diference we can name the sockets like (Red Socket and Green socket (example from wow)) no need to do the same but anleast for make sure no one put 2 D7 or other old gem but yes one old gem and one new gem ^^ thats my sugestion to this Q&A.

 

 

My question nw about the enchant system

Q: Will u guys thing into put enchants like add a few burn damage or a magic shield, or u guys will not do like dat but yes just do a enchant scroll for transfer substat (blue stat) to another equipment (as leo explained) (i thing this might be a stupid question hahaha xD

 

Can you give further explanation on how the Enchantment Scroll works:

• If you remove the Appraisal Stats (Blue Stats) from a grade 3 item, you may place it back on to any grade 3 item or higher. You will not be able to put the stats on to an Item Mall, Brave, Honor or other named grade gear.
• If you remove the Appraisal Stats (Blue Stats) from an Unique item, you may only place a new stat on to a Unique item. You will not be able to place it on to a grade 1~9, or any other named group.

 

thanks for all the answere leo ^^

[IAfjiBa]

Good to have a list that answer questions!


This is my questions.


Some new gems will only be available thru king drops, Will all king drop the new gems?

What drop catagory will the new gems be in?

Edited by Zurn, 08 September 2014 - 11:14 AM.

[HoneyBunz]

Thanks for the additional info, Leo. I'm wondering about the current gems that will be able to go into the new slots ... how will those gems get the necessary cut so that they can be put on gloves, shoes, back shields etc? Or will only those gems that are in the valor/honor shops have the required cuts?

 

Also regarding the enchantment scrolls- you said you can not place stats on IM items but can you remove stats from the IM things and put them elsewhere? If so, what are the restrictions on that?

Edited by HoneyBunz, 08 September 2014 - 10:50 AM.

[WH0MP]

Won't this rape the prices of all the event items and for instance exalted eqs as you can just enchant it to a better more useful item

[Leonis]

Are Enchantment Scrolls can be used on accessories too?

Your question was answered, please read the answers.

 

Okay, so we put three in-demand gems in the Honor Shop and only one in-demand gem in the Valor shop.

 

Why do I feel the people in Warp Portal loves giving the PvM player the shining, single finger salute?

 

Oh yes, maybe it's because they do.

This may be valid for your game play and opinion of what's in demand, but that does not in any way mean we are against the PvM players. Try not to look just at the shop when you consider a difference between what is PvP and PvM content. There are a few gems you can buy from the Honor Shop, but there are a great many more gems that you have to hunt from Kings, which is PvM content.

 

You have Honor, Valor, and GA listed. Isn't Valor, Honor both a part of the GA system? So, am I to take the GA listing as, dungeon drops? and how would it relate to PvP as a "drop"? 

Honor Points earned from completing PvP arenas, is the "Honor Shop".

Valor Points earned from completing dungeons, is the "Valor Shop".

Direct rewards given from completing dungeons, essentially a dungeon drop, but only for completing the dungeon by defeating the king(s), would be the "Game Arena".

 

My question nw about the enchant system

Q: Will u guys thing into put enchants like add a few burn damage or a magic shield, or u guys will not do like dat but yes just do a enchant scroll for transfer substat (blue stat) to another equipment (as leo explained) (i thing this might be a stupid question hahaha xD

Anything that would add on a special effect like a burn, a minor shield, or any unique effect, is something we want to work towards, but currently quite difficult. We're still working towards that.

 

Some new gems will only be available thru king drops, Will all king drop the new gems?

It's more than likely that every king will have a drop of some sort when it comes to the new gems.

 

 

 

What drop catagory will the new gems be in?

That question was answered in the list above.

 

Thanks for the additional info, Leo. I'm wondering about the current gems that will be able to go into the new slots ... how will those gems get the necessary cut so that they can be put on gloves, shoes, back shields etc? Or will only those gems that are in the valor/honor shops have the required cuts?

 Current gems aren't being affected by the update. You may have seen a couple of the existing gem types listed, and will have cuts to them to allow them to be placed in to new locations as well, but you will have to find those.
 
There are a few of the existing gems we are updating, so they can have some additional usefulness to them, and go in to some of the new slots to begin with, but they will not be getting a name change, because of their varied use already.
 
The Sunstone, Star Agate, Star Quartz, will have one additional slot they can be placed in to.
 

Also regarding the enchantment scrolls- you said you can not place stats on IM items but can you remove stats from the IM things and put them elsewhere? If so, what are the restrictions on that?

Let me explain again, because your question doesn't match how it works.

 

Simple Facts:

• You can use the Enchantment Scroll on any item, to take an appraisal stat from.
  • If you take a stat from a Grade 3 item, the Enchantment Scroll is now restricted to putting that stat on to a grade 3 item or higher.
  • If you take a stat from an Item Mall Item, the Enchantment Scroll will only work on an Item Mall item.
  • If you take a stat from an Event Item, the Enchantment Scroll will only work on an Event item.
  • If you take a stat from an Unique Item, the Enchantment Scroll will only work on an Unique item. 

 

Won't this rape the prices of all the event items and for instance exalted eqs as you can just enchant it to a better more useful item

Please read the answer I just gave above. You cannot transfer stats from any equipment to an Event Item.

[IAfjiBa]

Thank you 

[Filipito98]

enchant scrolls with special effects :3 will love it hihi, thnks for all the info leo ^^ keep u guys work

(edit: i dont mean that enchant scrolls with special effects in this update but yes in future updates xd)

but wat i love more is that gems wich give a zulie or item drop rate *-* them epic for my bourg farm :3 (if i lvl him up again xD)

Edited by Filipito98, 08 September 2014 - 11:10 AM.

[WH0MP]

Please read the answer I just gave above. You cannot transfer stats from any equipment to an Event Item.

 

I know that, but say you got a 30 charm tail from last event, worth nothing more, and then you move it to a event bag with 20 charm, essentially making 6b? which means price will drop for sure

[FizzMo]

Well, If I could put my 2 cents in haha. It's great they are trying to forward rose online and make it better tho I think they should have more of a "community based opinion" on these updates before forcing them upon us.

 

I personally have given up on pvp here due to constant changes and updates on the pvp that has some what "Ruined' it for me. I pretty much just play to talk to friends and collect costumes and items now that is it.

 

This update to "Slot every item" is well I won't say stupid but did the community have an input into whether this happened or not? It's like the skill update did everyone want it? No and we lost players because of that.

 

This Dev team has good ideas but I won't sit here and say they are all good ideas, I have constantly mentioned a poll when you log in so you can "vote" on the updates you want to have. I have been constantly declined on this idea but I guess that's up to them.

 

Instead of updates like this why not fix the problems that are in the mechanics? Bugs? Visuals? how about more things to do after reaching level 230 and being geared? I see most people standing afk because there is nothing left for them to do in game after they obtain the "best" gears as you may call it. Why not work on a new game feature? planet? bigger and better dungeons? why not add for example "Ancient items" that have a very low drop rate from a dungeon or something? this would at least give people something to do and up not only the quality of the game but make it more fun in the long run. Updates like this are not what is really needed but more just a desperate reach to try improve the game.

 

I was talking to Feuer in game and we were talking about how my swords went through the floor, and how about Female axe characters also had the same visual problem, why not fix these? It would increase game quality and make the whole thing look more "professional"

 

Another thing about this patch I would like to mention and this is only my opinion please feel free to challenge me on this or argue your point because I love discussion!

 

Say my raider has 270% aspd with 2.3k crit rating on full stacks that's easily 900-3k every hit. If I was now to go put peridot 7 in my head, boots, gloves, back shield, mask that would be over 320% ASPD, before the skill update people complain "Raiders are over powered" wont this just be restoring the unbalance of which you ruined the pvp before to get rid of?

 

This is also possible with a scout and with that super long range passive this could be very deadly to anyone. 300% on a bow scout hitting 1-2k most normal hits from a long range? Ouch for any melee class that doesn't have huge defense or reflect. (anyone but a knight)

 

Well that's my 2 cents hopefully someone can have a decent discussion with me about this (I'm looking at you Feuer)

 

 

[Krizalis]

Leonis.. Dont think this has been asked/asnwered yet...

 

Will those new gems be available from opening Jewel Chests?

[Nelko]

This may be valid for your game play and opinion of what's in demand, but that does not in any way mean we are against the PvM players. Try not to look just at the shop when you consider a difference between what is PvP and PvM content. There are a few gems you can buy from the Honor Shop, but there are a great many more gems that you have to hunt from Kings, which is PvM content.

 

It's not about content. It's about the equality in the level of effort and the certainty of reward. Yes, Kings drop gems. They drop a lot of desirables, even though most of them have taken a backseat in value nowadays. But can you say that a PvM player will get the Gem he / she wants in the same time it takes a PvP player to earn enough points to get the Gem he wants? And we're not even talking about the value of either Gem yet...

 

I mean, why even split the Gem types among the shops? Can't each shop have the same roster of Gems, the difference being that either shop only takes one kind of currency? I don't have any special suggestion for the PvP part of the Game Arena yet, except for offering gem rewards for maybe destroying the last egg / crystal.

 

Ditto for Pegasus testing. So what's the difference about opening the server to your shortlist and opening the server to everyone? Will you not get the same results either way? What could you expect to gain further by limiting access? What is it that you expect to lose if you don't? If your shortlisters are truly contributive, would they still not deliver the same amount of feedback with their efforts regardless of what others are doing around them?

 

May I make a suggestion in your collective decision making? The Israelites have this doctrine in advancement, called Ipha mistabra. One way of interpreting it is that in problem solving, someone needs to assert the principle that even the most logical of norms, notions and theorems are flawed, and that he / she should act in a way that they are indeed flawed and pursue an alternative path to delivering the ultimate solution to the problem.

 

I believe Western theorists call this the "Prove Yourself Wrong" rule. If you genuinely can't seem to find any proof that you are wrong, then you are probably right.

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Just to make sure, so the new enchantment scroll only extracts the apprasial substat and not the blue bolded stats right?

[DarkSideOfMoon]

How will this impact the gem process?
None of these new gems will be available through the current gem crafting skills, so it will not impact the current gem crafting processes.

 

So what is going to be the Artisan's role in all this?
Artisans are not involved in the new gems being released, their skills will remain as they are for the original and existing gems.

 

While there are some nice aspects, my excitement is kind of gone.

 

That means only a view Gems will remain unique for Artisans to craft, since many original gems are now easily obtained from valor and honor Shops. Is this final?

 

Also it seems that the new gems strength/grade cannot be increased by players. We get what we obtain from shops or drops and stick with it until we buy or find a better option. Then ditch the old gem and replace it with a better version. Do I understand it correct?

[Feuer]

 

May I make a suggestion in your collective decision making? The Israelites have this doctrine in advancement, called Ipha mistabra. One way of interpreting it is that in problem solving, someone needs to assert the principle that even the most logical of norms, notions and theorems are flawed, and that he / she should act in a way that they are indeed flawed and pursue an alternative path to delivering the ultimate solution to the problem.

 

I believe Western theorists call this the "Prove Yourself Wrong" rule. If you genuinely can't seem to find any proof that you are wrong, then you are probably right.

 

I think its mostly been decided that based on the fact that allowing early access, gives the potential to reveal something that can be exploited for profit or gain of power. limiting access to those volunteer's is a way of reducing that potential. Doesn't eliminate it, but it's easy to tell who goes onto pegasus to test, and who goes on to try and gain an advantage.