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[angeltje]

Will the existing stats change?

[Rocanlover]

Enchantment scrolls. Craft level 10 for sub you want, use scroll, done. 

 

Man you are right about that. I guess sen crafters might be busy..

 

Any news with the price of those scrolls?

 

 

I guess gem less weapon might be  better again?  Or the use of the new gems would be even better than the new updates. good thing unique are cheap.

 

ugh all my items with sub stats will be lame.. 

[Leeny]

Glad I am not the only person that thought the new stats looked severely unbalanced. Here we go with months of adjustments to classes and anything else to balance out these new substats.(my prophecy of the future)

[iMatt]

free.stat/skill.reset...............

wont happen

Will the existing stats change?

What you mean with this?

rerolled substats?

normal stats on items?

stats on gems?
stat points on characters?

Edited by Zurn, 14 September 2014 - 03:26 PM.

[Leeny]

Whats the problem? I thought all existing stat will enhance. Lets say if u have save a 4 leaf Clover 50/40 in your storage. After this update no need to worry cause it convert to 50/75. Am I right or Im f@$%ng wrong?

 

"We will be up-converting any existing stats that may fall slightly out of the new and improved scaling to the new design and in every case, if a stat changes, it can only become stronger."


Read how he worded it. So no they won't be touching out 50.40s. They will only be touching stats that aren't included in the new stats such as 3str. "fall slightly" I doubt that includes 50.40 because it's listed within the new sub-stat list. Also, "if" a stat changes, meaning we will all have fun redoing all of our items and everything we freaking own. Now  I am getting sick of this game. I was all down for the gem update and excited about it, but you guys are just getting severely ridiculous with this. And how do you guys sit there and say it doesn't change current game play and that you don't need to offer Restat/Reskills.Common now you guys are changing everything so obviously builds will be changed for these unbalanced sub-stats being added.

[iMatt]

I guess gem less weapon might be  better again?  Or the use of the new gems would be even better than the new updates. good thing unique are cheap.

The new Gems will for sure be better in 80% of all cases.

ugh all my items with sub stats will be lame.. 

Not at all, lots of substatted items are still very attractive.

 

[Leeny]

I hope you DEVS will take suggestions of iMatt when it comes to the substats/balancing of this update. He's one the most intelligent players here when it comes to that sort of thing. And he knows what majority of players would like to be done.

[angeltje]

What you mean with this?

rerolled substats?

normal stats on items?

stats on gems?
stat points on characters?

No substats you got with rerolling or crafting. Will substats change to the new ones?

[Phish]

Some existing substat will be updated but there will also be new stat combinations.

[Ballistic]

Scouts weren't nerfed, but they haven't been given the full treatment we wanted to give them. We still have Scouts noted to be given some attention when we're able to return to some class balances, but we have some other features to implement first in order to be able to do so.
 

So why start something you cant finish?  Why halfass a class, knowing it wasnt done right and then just jump to something else? 

[angeltje]

Some existing substat will be updated but there will also be new stat combinations.

Can there be any examples for which will change?

[Feuer]

So why start something you cant finish?  Why halfass a class, knowing it wasnt done right and then just jump to something else? 

 

I really dont get why mockery or insult is even necessary

1: They got cool new stuff

2: They're slated to be given more cool stuff.

 

Where exactly is there a negative in that? I swear people complain for the sake of complaining. 

[Filipito98]

Negative stuffs just come if some parts of update are bad and wen the update is implemented, not wen they give patch notes, u guys might dont like a few parts, but i bet after the update be released u guys will like it, just wait to the update and than go test :I

[ChampPower]

I would give it a try before commenting. I, too, do not like some of the features in the new system, but I would give it the benefit of doubt until I personally test it.

[Gojio]

How can they not change current stats? They can't just keep ingame stats that basically don't exist anymore...what was max stat before should be upgraded to max stat automatically.

[angeltje]

How can they not change current stats? They can't just keep ingame stats that basically don't exist anymore...what was max stat before should be upgraded to max stat automatically.

 

so my con set with con as substat and my set with substat charm will change

-1 for that, all that work in the trashcan
 

[iMatt]

Can there be any examples for which will change?

 

25 AP / 50 Crit becomes 30 AP / 50 Crit
60 dodge / 40 mspeed becomes 75 dodge / 50 mspeed

while

 

50 Acc / 40 Crit stays 50 Acc / 40 Crit

 

[iMatt]

so my con set with con as substat and my set with substat charm will change

-1 for that, all that work in the trashcan
 

 

your con set with con substat will stay, as your charm substatted - they wont lose any stats, maybe even become minimal better!

[iMatt]

How can they not change current stats? They can't just keep ingame stats that basically don't exist anymore...what was max stat before should be upgraded to max stat automatically.

 

*thumbs up* for my kyoudai bro *babedibubi* pastaboy

[angeltje]

25 AP / 50 Crit becomes 30 AP / 50 Crit
60 dodge / 40 mspeed becomes 75 dodge / 50 mspeed

while

 

50 Acc / 40 Crit stays 50 Acc / 40 Crit

 

 

oh so its more better then worse

your con set with con substat will stay, as your charm substatted - they wont lose any stats, maybe even become minimal better!

 

  for getting me understand it, i can be bit blond sometimes . but English isn't my natural languages so ofc i misunderstand sometimes .

 

Also   to devs for making our stats slightly better

[Rocanlover]

free 9 scrolls to everyone in game. and 1200 re rolls hammers!.

[Rocanlover]

Question to Leonis, Or Gen, or anyone who knows, Since we could move sub-stats after the update within their catigories and with rules followed, Lets say for instance if i wanted to move my 30 charm substats from coomon clothes to another common shoes or gloves that have no substats. Would it be possible to move those stats, or does the equipment require to have a stat first?

[Phish]

Question to Leonis, Or Gen, or anyone who knows, Since we could move sub-stats after the update within their catigories and with rules followed, Lets say for instance if i wanted to move my 30 charm substats from coomon clothes to another common shoes or gloves that have no substats. Would it be possible to move those stats, or does the equipment require to have a stat first?

 

 

Yes you can do that. 

 

You can't move a stat from a common item to an item mall item and vice versa. They must be the same grade of item or higher.

[Feuer]

How can they not change current stats? They can't just keep ingame stats that basically don't exist anymore...what was max stat before should be upgraded to max stat automatically.

 

So when they release new more powerful gear, what used to be the top tier should be automatically upgraded to top tier? Doesn't make sense when you put it into different context does it.

Edited by Feuer, 15 September 2014 - 10:46 AM.

[Gojio]

So when they release new more powerful gear, what used to be the top tier should be automatically upgraded to top tier? Doesn't make sense when you put it into different context does it.

 

That's a wrong comparison, we aren't talking about something new here, we're talking about something ingame that is being changed, and those people (me included) who paid real money for rerolls to get max stats should have their current statted items upgraded to the correspondant new stat.

 

Lots of players will be unhappy if this is not the case, and some people may aswell leave the game if they can't currently afford the real money cost to upgrade their items all over again. And don't come up with the "nobody is forcing you" bull-_- because if you want to be competitive in PvP you just must do it. If you're so happy to spend money again then ask the GMs to create another server just for you.

Edited by Gojio, 15 September 2014 - 11:00 AM.