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#51 iamvrypwrful

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 06:13 PM

Creating incentive to lead a guild is directly related to the server's activeness and state of woe.

 

Better castle loot would help a little bit, but a lot of castles can be taken very easily so it's hard to justify that. Maybe buff the loot of a few castles.


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 06:14 PM

ah yes, because the 10-17 person guilds will create more guilds if the cap is lowered to 2x

 

this makes complete sense.

 

Maybe people would leave the shelter of other guilds and go back to their original guilds or bring their guild back... Look at the "big" guilds and count how many guilds and guild leaders they have absorbed. It is relatively easy to pull 10-15 people to WoE if there is comp to fight. Having to pull 30-50 (depending on the week) is crazy. 

 

The 10-17 person guilds could stay the same and ACTUALLY have comp to fight against. It might cause unmerges with the larger guilds, which would be great in the sense of more competition on the server. 

 

I am more concerned with competition for the server then anything I say effecting a guild. Guilds are useless on a dead server. If there is no drive, motivation, or competition for a guild then they will simply leave or merge so they don't have to do any work. If there is competition then guilds will spring up (with lower guild number caps) and try to prove that they are the best. 


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 06:14 PM

i don't understand why not. they can't request changes? 

 

They can probably request them, but if they cant get a proper pre-renewal client (stat orbs etc) what makes you think they can get changes on the back end that may or may not be hard coded by now.

 

This server is 100% not supported by kRO, they've said that they're happy with what Renewal has done and want to continue in that direction. They were able to help with some of the huge issues we had at launch with regards to the inter server crashing and getting everything running on the new hardware, but really dont want to get involved in anything else.

 

It's fairly frustrating, but we really dont know much about the development or relationship iRO has with kRO and just how much our three man dev team can accomplish with zero support from kRO.


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#54 Xellie

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 06:18 PM

you know if they buff the loot of the castles it'll just get devalued in like 2 months because of the state of the population.

 

Maybe people would leave the shelter of other guilds and go back to their original guilds or bring their guild back... Look at the "big" guilds and count how many guilds and guild leaders they have absorbed. It is relatively easy to pull 10-15 people to WoE if there is comp to fight. Having to pull 30-50 (depending on the week) is crazy. 

 

The 10-17 person guilds could stay the same and ACTUALLY have comp to fight against. It might cause unmerges with the larger guilds, which would be great in the sense of more competition on the server. 

 

I am more concerned with competition for the server then anything I say effecting a guild. Guilds are useless on a dead server. If there is no drive, motivation, or competition for a guild then they will simply leave or merge so they don't have to do any work. If there is competition then guilds will spring up (with lower guild number caps) and try to prove that they are the best.

 

 

 if all the current guilds stood to lose people unmerging then they'd all flop.

-_-  would be the same

 


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 06:35 PM

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 06:38 PM

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Sorry guys but my roflcopter is running low on fuel. There's just been so much spamming insanity on the forums today. We need to stop the petty arguments and backstabbing or I'll crash!


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#57 Xellie

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 06:47 PM

I went out of my way to not even invite ANY player from your guild. I didn't want to cause any friction towards you. So I didn't invite ANY. Another player got 1 single VH player (who hadn't even touched RO in MONTHS). I was against it and told them no, but they were persistent and talked to you about it (so I was told). 

 

So I left guild and a player who "quit" came back. That is 1/3rd of your guild? Lies and skewing the reality of what I am responsible for.

 

I left to make a guild with some friends and to bring another guild to the server to do my part in making more competition. I was very straight forward with my intent to help the server.

 

It doesn't change my point, even if my numbers were a tiny bit off. With guilds as small as they are they depend heavily on certain players, if those players start getting shuffled around, some guilds will die.

 

Mostly because they'll get zerged by (the) alliances.

 

The server needs population

guild management needs to be easier

people need to stop cheating. All. Of. Them.


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:05 PM

It doesn't change my point, even if my numbers were a tiny bit off. With guilds as small as they are they depend heavily on certain players, if those players start getting shuffled around, some guilds will die.

 

Mostly because they'll get zerged by (the) alliances.

 

The server needs population

guild management needs to be easier

people need to stop cheating. All. Of. Them.

Server needs more guilds more population. If we are not getting that, the castle's should be reduced so we have a good 2 hr's Woe. Right now if we are attending 2 hr's woe, We have to find a castle for action coz most of them are empty. Even if we find a castle with an action, It mostly has all the server fighting in 1 castle. So the other castle's are found empty and at the end of woe guilds with high population are getting 4-5 castle's without any efforts.


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:07 PM

That happened for like 1 woe in the past month lol

 

also dont undercut me when im selling god parts, thats so gd rude


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:38 PM

doesn't really make sense to complain about someone undercutting because by logic if it was too cheap then you would buy it 

 

market sucks and it's hard to sell stuff


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 09:10 PM

I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

 

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 09:25 PM

That happened for like 1 woe in the past month lol

 

also dont undercut me when im selling god parts, thats so gd rude

Dont worry we starting back coz server needs more guilds and if its about the pcs, i have stopped vending 90% of them, i still have some in my storage which i decided to keep them instead vending them and ruining server's economy. I myself don't want the server to die so if someone vends the god's cheap or undercut's ur price please dont blame us.


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#63 Xellie

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:44 AM

Dont worry we starting back coz server needs more guilds and if its about the pcs, i have stopped vending 90% of them, i still have some in my storage which i decided to keep them instead vending them and ruining server's economy. I myself don't want the server to die so if someone vends the god's cheap or undercut's ur price please dont blame us.

 

No, you deliberately did that and laughed about it to me. I was the one who put the price back up to 99m and EVERYONE could vend at the same price because there is only 3 vendors. You are rude and selfish to do that to someone that has been trying to help you / provide a woe environment for you. Everyone is having trouble selling the things.

 

Just because you drop the price does not mean that they will sell. There are many of them and they are low in demand - you are hurting everyone, including yourself. Twenty Million Zeny is a ridiculous price to drop by when they are selling higher than that slowly but reliably.

 

If something takes 1 week to sell at 99 mil and 1 week to sell at 80m .... doesn't it make sense to sell for 99m? lol.

I'd buy you out but nothing sells. And to think I was gonna offer you some supply or GD use to get you started!

 

Technically, I should attack you for being a jerk to me, that's how WoE works after all.....  It's in my best interests to prevent you from getting god pieces because you ruin the results for everyone else. You make it harder for the rest of us to supply our guilds and make a profit. Therefore it goes that you are an enemy and must be prevented from getting forts. I don't like to do that to "small guilds" or w/e, but seriously, why don't you actually talk to people you've been working with instead of screwing them over and laughing about it "heaheuhaha"?

 

Go back to vending them for 20m instead of 80m. If you're really that desperate. You are so unreasonable and you make it harder for yourself and other guildleaders.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:48 AM

If you ask me, low prices are actually a good thing, so anyone who sells for cheap is my friend!


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:56 AM

point is that until guildleaders can talk to eachother and work together to fix WoE, it's never going to improve.

It's already crap because it's not rewarding enough - that very discussion above is an example of how the guildleaders on this server just cannot work together on the same page, even if on the same side or WoEing together - they work against eachother.

 

 

A guild like mine shouldn't even be affected by a small guild like his - it's a sign of how pathetic this server has become.

 


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 04:09 AM

Guild cap should be in mid 20's with 1 alliance spot. I know for a fact that people would rise up and make/lead guilds. This would bring a ton more actual competition to the table and make WoE's more interesting. 

 

It should be done, but it probably "can't" or more importantly it just flat out wont happen.

 

Edit: Of course the game was never designed for a server like "classic"! The game was made a decade ago and times have changed in 10 years. 10 years ago the most popular cellphone was the Razor phone, times change... However things like guild size camp and alliance cap on such a low population server have stayed the same. Major flaws in the game have stayed without anything done about it. If nobody bring it up then why would they ever do anything about it?

 

We need to update and bring these things up to the times to reflect the server...

 

-Guild cap

-Number of allies

-The potting system should have been redone YEARS ago

-Anti cheat programs (need to get better servers first lol)

 

ect ect

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 04:44 AM

smart.

 

It'll help if people like you don't encourage/teach others to abuse the god system or sell gods for $$$$.

There's no point in competing when people bypass competition.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 04:54 AM

It'll help if people like you don't encourage/teach others to abuse the god system or sell gods for $$$$.

There's no point in competing when people bypass competition.

 

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 05:54 AM

It'll help if people like you don't encourage/teach others to abuse the god system or sell gods for $$$$.

There's no point in competing when people bypass competition.

Dumb.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 06:29 AM

No, you deliberately did that and laughed about it to me. I was the one who put the price back up to 99m and EVERYONE could vend at the same price because there is only 3 vendors. You are rude and selfish to do that to someone that has been trying to help you / provide a woe environment for you. Everyone is having trouble selling the things.

 

Just because you drop the price does not mean that they will sell. There are many of them and they are low in demand - you are hurting everyone, including yourself. Twenty Million Zeny is a ridiculous price to drop by when they are selling higher than that slowly but reliably.

 

If something takes 1 week to sell at 99 mil and 1 week to sell at 80m .... doesn't it make sense to sell for 99m? lol.

I'd buy you out but nothing sells. And to think I was gonna offer you some supply or GD use to get you started!

 

Technically, I should attack you for being a jerk to me, that's how WoE works after all.....  It's in my best interests to prevent you from getting god pieces because you ruin the results for everyone else. You make it harder for the rest of us to supply our guilds and make a profit. Therefore it goes that you are an enemy and must be prevented from getting forts. I don't like to do that to "small guilds" or w/e, but seriously, why don't you actually talk to people you've been working with instead of screwing them over and laughing about it "heaheuhaha"?

 

Go back to vending them for 20m instead of 80m. If you're really that desperate. You are so unreasonable and you make it harder for yourself and other guildleaders.

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 06:36 AM

lol

 

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 06:39 AM

Dumb.

 

Yes, what you did was dumb.


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 07:10 AM

I would be happy if these GMs would stop suspending people without proof and keep giving the same old automated response :/ all i want to do is play this  game.Yet a HW geared with RMTed gears gets to roam around freely.Thats the bullll shii


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 05:27 PM

make WOE only supplies obtainable from BG, instead of making people hunt and pot for woe might actually bring guilds back, right now NOBODY wants to hunt or run a guild because it is to much effort and not that rewarding


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 05:28 PM

make WOE only supplies obtainable from BG, instead of making people hunt and pot for woe might actually bring guilds back, right now NOBODY wants to hunt or run a guild because it is to much effort and not that rewarding

 

Go back to your WoE-only pserver kthx


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